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DATE: (100495)
City Council
10/04/95
7:30 P. M.
State of Idaho)
County of Madison( ss
City of Rexburg)
Present were the following: Mayor:
Councilman:
City Clerk:
Finance Officer:
Attorney:
Engineer:
Pledge to the flag.
Nile L Boyle
Glen Pond
Farrell Young
Nyle Fullmer
Kay Beck
Bruce Sutherland
Rose Bagley
Richard Horner
J. D. Hancock
Joe Laird
A motion was made by Glen Pond and seconded by Bruce Sutherland to
approve the minutes. All Aye
RE: SPRAY PAINT BOOTHS COMPLIANCE WITH FIRE CODE DISCUSSED
TOPIC: (20,45,,, SPRAY PAINT BOOTHS,FIRE DEPARTMENT,U.F.C.)
Paint Booths- Dee Owens and Spence Larsen representing the Fire
Department were at the meeting to discuss this issue. Dee explained
the section in the U.F.C. The section, which has been there for a long
time, says any spray booth will be protected with an approved automatic
fire extinguishing system (suppression) which for what ever reason has
not been enforced. The thing that brought it up was Taylors putting in
their new spray booth and it was brought before the mayor and the work
committee.
The mayor stated there has been about three spray booths lately and we
have not enforced it but we want to be fair to everyone, so we want
everyone to give their views.
Gary Lewis, C & L Body Shop- When he built the building no one told him
they had to do it or he would have done it then because he is aware of
the code. You can't put water in a spray booth with a 6" main. Dee
told him you can do it with either water or dry chemicals. Gary said
he does not have a problem with dry chemicals.
The mayor asked what kind of an expense. Gary said when he looked at
it a couple of years ago it was about $2500 for dry chemicals. He
asked if any of the those spray booths in use now would be
grandfathered. The mayor told him the council felt if it was enforced,
because it is a safety issue none of them would be grandfathered.
Spence stated if they were in operation before the code they would be
grandfathered. Dee said it has been in the code since 1979. J. D. said
on safety issues they would not be grandfathered. The mayor felt that
cabinet shops would be more apt to have a fire than the paint booths in
an auto body shop.
Eric Erickson- Erickson Politic- They installed a paint booth two years
ago and at that time the question was raised about fire suppression but
nobody seemed to take the necessity of enforcing it. They want to
comply with the U.F.C. if there is a safety factor they want to comply
with it. Their decision is to go ahead and install the fire
suppression. They are getting bids to go ahead with it. They feel if
it is to be enforced, it should be enforced through out the entire
city. They would support that decision of the council and would commit
to go ahead and install the fire suppressant in their booth, hoping
that the city will then get behind it and enforce it through out the
city and possibly in the county. He did not think the city could stop
with the body shops, but also at the cabinet shops and other businesses
that would have the problem.
Leon Christenson, Christenson Body Shop- He just moved from his old
business where everything was grandfathered. He was aware of the fire
code law, but he looked at the other body shops and no one had this
system. These new booths are all explosion proof and he could not see
a need for a suppression system because they draw the fumes out so
fast, that they don't build up. His booth was new in 1973 and he took
his booth to his new location, but did not put in a suppressant. They
will do what the council decides.
Vardis Sharp, Rays Auto Body -He feels like Leon, there have not been
any fires. Maybe we are trying to cure a problem we don't have. They
moved into their shop in 1972.
Spence said he had talked to the State fire marshal several times and
he told him that he did not have the right to revise the fire code. If
we did we are saying we would accept all liability if something would
happen.
Glen felt that exposure was not only with the Body Shops but with the
cabinet makers. He would not want to put the citizens of Rexburg at
risk by not enforcing the fire code. Some of the cabinet shops are
right next to homes and other things. He felt we need to enforce it
because it is a safety issue.
Dee stated that the estimate he got from a contractor was it would cost
from $3000 to $5000 to install the suppression per booth.
(council discussion)
Paul Christenson- We are all subject to Workman Compensation laws. If
one of us would have an employee killed in a fire involving a spray
booth and the city voted to not enforce the U.F.C. would the city be
liable? Yes we would.
Nyle suggested that we take it under advisement and table it to the
next meeting and see if there are any options. Glen suggested that we
notify the Cabinet Shops.
RE: "VEHICLE PER PATROLMAN" POLICY PASSED
TOPIC: (20,46,,, POLICE DEPARTMENT,VEHICLES)
Police Car Use- Chief Siepert was at the meeting to discuss this
issue. (handing out copies with changes) He explained the policy and
the efficiency of the program. He felt if we give it a try they could
show some savings and more hours by the officers because they would be
out there and available. A motion was made by Nyle Fullmer that we
implement this policy as soon as possible. Seconded by Kay Beck. All
Aye
RE: PRE -ANNEXATION OF NORTH HIGHWAY AREA DISCUSSED
TOPIC: (20,46,,, ANNEXATIONS,BUSINESS PARK,ARTCO,HORKLEYS,2ND EAST,
SALEM ROAD,ULTIMATE DIRECTIONS,NORTH HIGHWAY)
Pre -annexation discussion. Joe explained the area of the Business Park
and the Artco Business Park. We are trying to find a way that we can
get out to annex that as part of the city. The city limits comes right
up to the railroad up to the side of Horkley's. Horkley's have
indicated the desire to be annexed to the city. There is city water and
sewer available. The Livestock Auction with the old owner did not want
to be annexed, however they have a new owner that may have a different
feeling about it. There is a possibility of annexing a strip along
side of the Salem road or 2nd East to United Plumbing and another
strip. In talking with the railroad, they said they would have no
objection to annexing the railroad up to the Business park, so they
were looking at annexing the railroad and the highway going to Sugar
City up to the Business Park. Ultimate Directions have indicated that
they want to be annexed, because they need the water service. The
simplest way to go would be to annex the railroad and the highway and
the others adjacent to it. It was suggested to approach Artco with the
new building to annex.
A copy of a Water & Sewer Agreement with Ultimate Directions was
discussed, this had been previously discussed at a prior meeting and
passed.
A motion was made by Glen Pond to precede with the annexation
procedure. Seconded by Nyle Fullmer. All Aye
RE: WATER & SEWER AGREEMENT WITH ULTIMATE DIRECTIONS
TOPIC: (20,47,,, WATER DEPARTMENT,SEWER DEPARTMENT,ULTIMATE DIRECTIONS)
A motion was made by Glen Pond and seconded by Kay Beck to give the
mayor the right to negotiate the Water and Sewer Agreement with
Ultimate Directions. All Aye
RE: COMPUTER LITERACY FOR CITY EMPLOYEES
TOPIC: (20,47,,, CITY EMPLOYEES,COMPUTERS)
The mayor reported that the Department Heads had a meeting. At that
meeting Computer Literacy for the employees was discussed and enhancing
everyone's computer skills. Richard gave a handout with proposals and
explained it. (copy on file) It is becoming more evident that we need
more experience in running computers. There is probably 1/3 to 1/2 of
the employees in the city who have probably not ever turned a computer
on. We have seen some evidence in the departments using one even now
in certain areas. In talking with the department heads and with the
college, the college feels the best way to educate people is to get a
computer in front of them and provide them a tutor available whenever
they need it, someone they can call for help. You learn more hands on
than you do in classes. Some classes are helpful to get you started.
On an average to get a computer to put in a home would run about $2000
plus a printer. A suggestion was that we provide some help in the
areas that would be directly beneficial to the city. Possibly if we
purchased a word processing program for the employee and let them use
it in their home. They would be required to give somekind of
accounting of the time spent in using and getting acquainted with it.
If we put some of the costs directly related to their work, there are
enough employees that have had enough experience that we could use them
as a tutor.
The mayor explained that E.C.I.P.D.A. loaned the money to the employees
for computers and then took the money out of their pay checks to pay
for the whole price of the computer.
The council felt that the best option would be to give the employees an
interest free loan to purchase the computer and take it out of their
pay checks. Richard felt that we could afford $200 to $300 which would
be about 10% of the cost of a computer toward the purchase of a
computer or printer. Glen suggested that if we go with the loan we give
them one year to participate and then close the window so the city does
not have an on going thing. Richard stated that the loan part would
have nothing to do with the budget and no cash flow problem. He said
it would not be a problem to handle the loan. He felt the best way to
use the city money would be directly into programs. (discussion)
Richard said the interest free loan would be important, but not quite
enough. Nyle felt it was a good program and would enhance the employee
performance. He recommended that Richard go back and scout out the
software and find out what we can do. In proposal he felt it was a
great idea.
RE: FLU SHOTS
TOPIC: (20,47,,, FLU SHOTS)
The mayor told the council there would be flu shots given to the
employees on October 18 from 8:00 A.M. to 10:00 A.M. at City Hall. The
city will pay for the Employee shots and if the spouse or children
wanting to get the shot would have to pay for it. The cost will be
$10.00.
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RE: COUNCIL REGULATIONS DISCUSSED
TOPIC: (20,48,,, CITY COUNCIL, P & Z,CONFLICT OF INTEREST)
The mayor discussed council regulations. At the City Clerk's and
Finance Officers meeting at McCall an Attorney suggested that
councilman should not attend Planning & Zoning Meetings. They should
defiantly not be there and enter into the discussions and influence the
members. Glen said as part of the public the council would have the
right to be there but not sit at the table and participate. The mayor
felt we get a lot of input back when a councilman is at the meeting and
he would like them to continue coming to the meeting but not enter into
the discussion.
Another thing they talked about that has been a problem. If you have a
conflict of interest, it should be declared and if the council feels at
that time it is not serious enough and allow you to vote, you could
vote, if not you should declare it and not discuss or vote on the
matter.
Another area we can be in trouble is after the meeting is over if the
group stays and discusses things. If you discuss business even when
the meeting is over you have a legal problem.
RE: AIRPORT OPTIONS DISCUSSED
TOPIC: (20,48,,, AIRP0RT,G0LF COURSE)
Airport options- (1) Do nothing. Leave the taxiway as is and no
fence. Do not use the grant. (2) Use the grant money and extend the
taxiway to end of runway and build the taxiway for the north hangers.
Put up the fence approximately 135 feet from center line. Maintain the
non precision approach. (3) Extend the runway 1000 feet to the north.
Put the fence 250 from center line. Maintain the non precision
approach. Design the golf course into an executive course or relocate
the gold course. Also use the grant money to extend the taxiway. (4)
Extend the runway north 1000 feet. Keep the fence at approximately 135
from center line and lose the non precision approach. Also use the
grant money to extend the taxiway. The golf board and airport board
will meet on the 17th of October and told the council they were invited
to attend. What ever happens on this will affect the City County Golf
Course.
RE: SIDEWALK RESOLUTION
TOPIC: (20,48,,, SIDEWALKS,RES0LUTIONS)
Kay asked about the sidewalk issue and if we can enforce the resolution
95-6? J. D. stated that it is just a regulation of what has already
been passed. The mayor stated we could do an L.I.D. to put sidewalks
in. Kay stated that this resolution just says the sidewalks will be
put in and this is not happening. If it is not happening, why do we
write it and why do we vote on it? (discussion)
Richard suggested that we identify the property with property
descriptions and recorded it at the Courthouse and it would show up on
the title. J. D. said the resolution is legal but the question is it
enforceable. (Kay discussed with the council enforcement) Nyle
suggested that for the property that has changed hands, we should
inform them that if they don't comply to the ordinance as they have
been informed, in the spring of 1996 we will do a city wide L.I.D. and
they will be included unless they inform us and take action on their
own we will assume they want to be included on the L.I.D.
RE: ANNEXATION OF THE BUSINESS PARK
TOPIC: (20,48,,, ANNEXATIONS,BUSINESS PARK,SPUDS)
Brooke Passey- With regard to Annexation to the Business Park. It has
been a gray area. When the city annexed out to the Spuds Area, it
showed on the map that the city annexed only to the center of the
road. As the city annex out north of town, the state code reads "In
any annexation of adjacent territory, the annexation shall include all
portions of highways lying wholly or partially in the annexed area."
50-222. He asked if the council was aware of that? Nile said we are
not going to annex any of that road, we are going down the old
highway. If we annex any of it we will annex the whole road. Bruce
suggested that we need to do it right out by Spuds. The mayor said we
would do some checking on it.
RE: MAGISTRATE COURT COSTS
TOPIC: (20,49,,, MAGISTRATE COURT,POLICE DEPARTMENT,MADISON COUNTY)
Steve Zollinger had contacted Brooke about the Judges making a decision
to have the cities pay into the Majestrate. He felt like he was
representing the council in trying to get together with the county and
work something out before it got to that point.
The mayor said Glen's committee was going to talk about it tonight, but
we can talk about it as a council. Under the Idaho Statute, the judges
are going to be meeting this month to decide whether the cities should
participate in that. The mayor discussed what other cities are doing.
Glen stated that our decision was a budget driven decision. Kay stated
because we decided not to give the money to the county we also
furnished an officer to supervise community service as a trade off.
(discussion)
J. D. said they had never seen a copy of the petition or written
request from the commissioners. We have some options, one is to have
the magistrate to come to the city council chambers once or twice a
month and take care of the city cases right here. That is what Boise
decided to do. The other option that was talked about in the Supreme
Court Finance Committee that he had served on is that it is an equal
taxation. If you tax city residents for the same service that is being
provided other county residents and we are paying more than a resident
that resides outside the city limits. That is an unequal tax and could
be held unconstitutional.
Glen felt as Kay did we have hired the officer as a trade off. Nyle
asked why we aren't being given credit for the officer? The mayor
stated that with this officer we are getting in an area that is not
--- city responsibility, it is county responsibility. Nyle said we have
been subsidizing the juvenile system and maybe part of the problem is
ours. The bulk of the problem is the county and they were not dealing
with it and we chose to go ahead.
Kay, speaking for himself. A little over under 218 of his taxes goes
to the City of Rexburg and a little over 348 goes to the County. What
is he getting for the 348. He is a county resident too. Law
enforcement is a county responsibility and not a city responsibility.
We are already paying over $900,000 for law enforcement, that really is
a county obligation. We don't have it in the budget, but he is not
willing to give it if we did have it.
J. D. stated we need to sit down and talk about it with all three
commissioners. Glen stated it is an uncomfortable time for the city to
come back when the budget is already set. We will have to take
something off the budget in order to give something. Nyle said we
already took the officer off full time to part time. (discussion)
Glen stated what if we say we will go half, where will we come up with
that half of the money? Nyle suggested why aren't they collecting
-- more? The offenses that occur in the county, and we get separated and
we subsidizing the county residents. We pay extra because we live in
the city limits. The county doesn't pay for city facilities.
J. D. stated that our police officers don't discriminate on the type of
cases. The Sheriff would have to double his department to take care of
the felonies and the juvenile offenses. He felt that Beth Reese should
be complimented for the fine work the clerks are doing.
J. D. stated because the budgets are set the soonest we could do
anything different would be in the next budget.
Nyle suggested that J. D. apprise the council of what their options
really are. Glen felt the council and the commissioners need to talk
and come up with a compromise if possible.
Nyle asked Brooke what the status of where the police will fit into the
expansion plan? Brooke said they have not got to that point yet, but
they have not seen a formal request from the city for use of the
annex. Nyle asked him to please make sure we are informed.
A motion was made by Nyle Fullmer and seconded by Glen Pond to pay the
bills. All Aye
Meeting adjourned.
Mayor, Nile L. Boyle
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City Clerk, Rose,BagLey
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