HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES NOVEMBER 08, 2000 PLANNING & ZONING •
( November 8, 2000
7:Gu p.m.
Present: Chairman: Davawn Beattie
Members: LaDawn Bratsman
Ted Whyte
John Watson
Gary Steiner
Raymond Hill
Bobbette Carlson
Mike Thueson
Roder Muir
P.F.C. John Millar
Council Member: Donna Benfield
City Attorney: Stephen Zollinger
Minutes: Janet Williamson
Excused: Marilyn Hansen, City Clerk
Davawn welcomed everyone and had the Scouts introduce themselves.
Ted Whyte moved to approve the minutes of October 25t''. Bobbette seconded the motion- All
voted aye. Norte opposed.
Roger Muir won the election for County Commissioner and Gary Steiner will be moving out of
the Impact Zone so they wiii both need to be replaced on the Punning and Zoning Board.
Replacements will need to live in the impact zone.
John Watson asked that he be put on the November 15~" agenda for a preliminary plat review for
the Deseret Industries property.
Davawn asked John Watson to chair the meeting on December 13tH
Stephen read the notice for the public hearing for Steve Oakey zone change from MDR to HBD
at 50-60 So. lst West.
John explained that the property is located directly west across the road from the old Broulims
building on South 1St West. It is in the south half of that street from the middle of the block.
There is a driveway going back to the Cottonwood Apartments, there are 21ots and a house and
business on the corner. The issue is to zone those 2 lots as described to HBD. The North half
of the block is HBD and the Clean Spot is north of the driveway is HBD. The business on the
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• corner of lst W and lst S is out of zone. The driveway to Cottonwood Apartments is the only
thing that separates them from being contiguous.
Davawn read into the record a letter from Vera B. Rish, 66 S lst W ,stating her opposition to the
zone change.
Davawn opened the meeting to public comment.
J.D. Hancock, So. 1St West -
J. D. lives within a block of the this zone change. He concurs with Mrs. Rish and is alarmed at
the erosion of the residential neighborhood in which they live. One of the purposes of planning
and zoning is to protect property rights. They have a right to protect their neighborhood.
Unfortunately planning and zoning approved a new housing complex directly across the street
from MDR to HDR and that will definitely increase the traffic on this street. He believes Mr.
Oakey's application is grossly inadequate and incomplete. There are 7 questions that are asked
in the application and only one of those 7 is answered. The south half of the block from Main
Street to 1St South is all residential and we would like to preserve the integrity of that residential
neighborhood. The church is on the corner of 2nd W and lst S, Porter Park is there and there are a
lot of amenities for a family who wants to live in that particular neighborhood.
The second point he would like to bring up is there are more then enougl^i areas in Rexburg that
are zoned HBD. There is plenty of commercial property for a business that wants to relocate.
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along South 2nd W, just one block away.
The third reason they are opposed to any business that might be 24 hour, whether it be a car
wash, a convenient store, or any other business, is increased noise, increased traffic, increased
litter and garbage and possible crime. Every summer they contend with Retrix which is a block
away because of the noise, the traffic and the problems that arise because of the nature of that
business. Look at the proximity of that location to the Jr. High School. We don't know what
business is going in but do we want to entice our children off the Jr. High campus to go to a
convenience- store or what ever maybe put there. He believes that this might have some impact
on the school district because of its proximity to the Jr. High School and the school district needs
to have the impact in this decision according to the relevant sections of the planning and zoning
ordinance. For all of these reasons we would urge the Planning and Zoning Board to deny this
request.
Jean & John Barnes, 133 W. 1St South
John and Jean stated that both of them are very concerned with this going in and they don't agree
that it should.
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Cheri Moore, 110 W lSt South
Cheri said this would be putting the business on the other side of her back fence. There would
be noise, destruction and property damage and she highly opposes it.
James Parkinson, 144 W. 1St South
James has had serious crime problems around his house with vandalism, theft, and nothing
seems to be getting done about it. The more traffic we add the worse it is going to be. He wants
to put a stop to it. '
Verna Gneiting, 130 W 1St South
Verna agrees with everything that has been said. Another concern of hers is the decrease in their
residential neighborhood reduces the likelihood of being able to sell their property as a
residential property. This would reduce the value of their property. We need to preserve the
integrity of this residential area.
Sally Thompson, 110 S. 1St West
Sally's son waited for the stop light to go in on Main and lst West so he could have more
independence. The corner where she lives, 1St West and 1St South, now has wheel chair ramps at
all four corners. The increased traffic would greatly reduce the safety at this corner. A business
would increase the traffic, noise and pollution and she is opposed to it.
Pat Scheese, 77 W lst South
Pat lives on the corner of lst West and lst South. She is opposed to it. She gets enough trash •
already. The increased traffic will pollute the neighborhood. The noise level is already high.
They can't get 4 way stops put in anywhere where they need them. If she ever had to sell her
home she wout_dn't be able to.
Diana Janson, 153 S. 1St West
Diana has 3 children ages 10, 12, and 13. She agrees with all that has been said and is mostly
concerned with how it will effect her children.
Pete Thompson, 135 S. 1St West
Pete is also opposed to the zone change mainly because of the added traffic it would bring.
Wade Quick, 60 S. 1St West
Wade lives in one of the houses being talked about. There is college housing being built across
the street from him and apartments in back of him and I~Ielaleuca is moving in across the street
also. He has small children and the only way he can sell his home and move to a better
neighborhood is to have it rezoned.
Roy Rounds, 60 W 1St South
Roy understands what is going on here and concurs but would like to hear the other side and find
out what they want to do.
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Steve Oakey said that despite what J.D. says about available property, he has searched those
available on Main Street and else where and none are suitable or affordable enough to make his
business work there. This neighborhood is going to get more traffic whether he is there or not
and whether they want it or not. The Planning and Zoning people have been looking for future
arteries off Main Street. Unfortunately all of your homes lie within corridors off Main Street. If
you want Rexburg to grow you must allow businesses to come into Rexburg and to expand and
to grow to crate jobs to allow'our community to be non-stagnant: He is planning to put a car
wash in, not a convenience store. There will not be anymore traffic than there already is.
Judy Davis Hobbs, speaking in behalf of the Quicks as their real estate agent, asked the people to
consider their position and to realize that they will not be able to sell their homes as a residence
because businesses are creeping in. If you were to have an opportunity to get fair price and to
be able to move into another home you really need to endorse the rezoning so you will have a
better opportunity of reselling your own home.
Verna Gneiting did not agree with Judy. There are other ways Rexburg could grow without
taking away their homes.
James Parkinson felt there is a problem if the residents have to suffer so someone can make
money. He has done a lot of remodeling to increase the value of his home. He doesn't want to
be forced out.
Jean Barnes - if this goes in and their homes are not sellable as homes what are they going to be
sold as? Her home is not large enough to be sold for commercial use.
Pat Scheese -She bought her home 10 years ago and retired in March. She lives or. a limited
income and could never afford to buy another home.
Diana Janson said when they bought their home they signed a contract with Idaho Housing that
they would live there for 10 years.
Hope Quick, 60 S. 1St West
The Quicks bought their home about 2 years ago. She doesn't want to see it torn down and the
people in the neighborhood are wonderful but the college is taking over. It is not a family area
anymore. There is so much foot traffic and traffic on the road that it is not safe for her children.
About twice a week, every week, there are cars that will not stop for the bus when it is dropping
off her children.
Virginia Pratt, 50 S. 1St West
The Pratts own the other house that is being bought and the Cottonwood Apartments. She feels
there is more emotion being put into to this than needs to be. No one is trying to force anyone
out of their homes. You don't have to sell your home if you don't want to. What she is saying is
one more business in there is not going to make any difference to the traffic and the noise.
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J.D. Hancock - we are taking valuable residential area and eroding it. On the corner of 2nd W •
and 2nd S. there is a vacant lot zoned HBD. That is just as big and probably not more expensive
and just one black away. People wash their cars 24 hours a day. We are asking you to preserve
the integrity of our neighborhood and our property rights.
Cheri Moore said they have put a lot of work into their back yard and this business would
eliminate all their privacy.
Davawn closed the meeting to public comments.
Stephen stated that this property was commercial in the previous zoning (1968-1991) and
changed to MDR in 1991.
Johnny Watson asked what the Comprehensive Plan shows. John said it is Commercial on the
Comprehensive Plan.
Ted Whyte declared a conflict of interest but wanted to make some comments. Cottonwood
Apartments needs more parking and the back 43 feet of the 21ots will be made into additional
parking for the apartments. This will get the cars off of the streets. The front 2/3 of the lots will
be a stand alone, 4 hand car wash unit. It is not an automatic car wash or convenient store just 4
individual stalls of car washes.
You are a block off Main Street and a block from the College. There becomes a conversion •
process as the city grows to do a transformation of areas around universities.
Stephen told the board that they are responsible for going through the 7 questions on the
application and answering them. They are not required to be answered by the developer.
{Board reviewed all of the 7 questions.)
John mentioned that on this block -the entire city block -there are 8 homes. The rest is either
commercial, HDR or the church. The 21ots wanting the zone change are part of that 8.
Johnny Watson said that a few months ago they reviewed a proposal for apartments at this
location and they denied it based on the fact that commercial is going down Main Street and
they want to maintain the commercial area in the downtown. Looking down the road this is a
natural commercial use.
This area is MDR zone at the time and Davawn read the definition of MDR to the people
present.
Mike said this development fits the Comprehensive Plan.
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John said if this is rezoned HBD any business allowed under HBD could go there.
Davawn pointed out that this board only makes a recommendation to the City Council and the
Council makes the final decision.
Johnny Watson said he was .sympathetic to the residents but the Board's charge and
responsibility is to the Comprehensive plan and this meets a117 requirements on the rezoning
application.
J.D. said they could honor the requests of the residents. They do not have to recommend every
request that comes before them.
Johnny Watson made a motion that they recommend to the City Council that this be approved
and rezoned from MDR to HBD, recognizing that that allows for the residents to come before
City Council. Roger Muir seconded the motion. Ted Whyte abstained from voting. LaDawn
opposed the motion. All others voted aye. Motion carried.
Public Hearing -Frank Zimmerman, sign variance for Central Park Burgers
Stephen read the public hearing notice for a sign variance for Frank Zimmerman for Central
Park Burgers.
John explained that the sign at Central Park Burgers is in excess of what is allowed by the city
sign ordinance. The size of a sign is determined by two factors. One is the amount of frontage
that the property has and the other attributed to the size of the building. The problem we have
run into here is that the sign and the front of the building are about the same size. The sign is 22
sq. feet too large.
Frank mentioned that when you say you go by building and frontage you are looking at having
another major thorough fare go through there and so he has in excess of 350 feet of frontage.
The franchise does have standard signs. This is one of the smaller ones and they did cut down
the height. The signage came with the building
Davawn opened the meeting to public comment. There was no comment so it was closed and
returned to the board to review.
Ted and John Watson felt when they were writing the sign ordinance they didn't consider small
buildings. Stephen said they did particularly on Main Street. They were not thinking about the
North Highway and places like Sears and United Furniture have struggled with the ordinance.
(Discussion).
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Ted Whyte moved that they table it, have the sign size refigured and look at other options.
Raymond Hill seconded the motion. All voted aye. None opposed. They asked that it be put on
the agenda in February.
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~' PLANNING & ZONING
~,, WORK MEETING
November 8, 2000
Present: Chairman: Davawn Beattie
Members: LaDawn Bratsman
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Ted Whyte
John Watson
Gary Steiner
Raymond Hill
Bobbette Carlson
Mike Thueson
Roger Muir
P.F.C. John Millar
Council Member: Donna Benfield
Minutes: Janet Williamson
Excused: Marilyn Hansen, City Clerk
Stephen Zollinger, City Attorney
John Miiiar presented the proposed changes to t'_ne Comprehensive Map that have been
discussed.
- The Steiner Property adjacent to U.S. 20 south of the Widdison Addition. Part of this
property has been proposed for MDR. It is shown as single family residential on the
Comprehensive Plan. There are 2 storage units in the area already. They are built out-of--zone.
They have requested more and P & Z has been firm on no more storage units in that area.
- On 5th W and about 1St N. there are about 8 - 4 plexes in a `U' shape. Coming before you
soon will be a proposal for a zone change for the vacant property contiguous to that on the north
for more 4 plexes. The area was zoned for that before the last re-zoning and it was purchased
for that purpose. The neighborhood, during the public hearings, was quite adamant that they
wanted no more high density residential in that area. We down zoned that to single family
residential.
- We are also looking at the area from 1000 S to 4th S. on the west side of the old highway.
The Hawkins Company has purchased the area and are proposing several different zones, LDR1,
MDR and HBD. The area is currently zoned Ag. 1 and some Industrial. They will also want to
annex and go on city services. We see them as a serious developer.
- This one is in retrospect - It is behind the old Broulims. It is shown on the master plan as
commercial. We have recently approved a large housing complex in there.
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-Area on 1st West and 2nd West between 2nd and 4th South is already HDR and v~rill need to be
brought into compliance with what is already there.
- There is a proposal coming before the Board for the area on 2nd East between St" and 7t"
South. Part of that property is currently zoned MDR and they are going to request that it all be
zoned HDR.
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- On the Comprehensive Plan the Business Park is shown as Commercial. There are 2
proposals now that would put Industrial on the back side of the business park. It is currently
shown wrong on the zoning map. It is shown as HBD and is actually zoned as Industrial.
The piece of land around Ultimate Direction is shown as commercial on the Comprehensive
Plan. This change would expand that into Industrial. As far as John knows, nothing is proposed
there and the way to go would be commercial.. On the zoning map Ultimate Direction is zoned
industrial. That would bring the Comprehensive Plan in line with the Zoning Ordinance but
they do no± necessarily have to be in compliance. Maybe, long te~l~~, we may want this to be
commercial or industrial.
- The property on the West side of the Salem road on the North Highway is currently zoned
right up to cemetery road as industrial. A plumbing business is there now. With that road going
4 lanes there is going to be a lot of pressure for that area to be zoned HBD, the proposal is to
modif<,~ the C,omprehenslve Plant to show I'LL.
The City wants to leave the Business Park industrial.
These proposals are set up for public hearing at the next meeting November 15t".
(Discussion of various areas.)
Davawn asked John to have an overlay map at the public hearing.
They can change the Comprehensive Plan, re-zone and annex in the same evening.
What these changes do is promote development in the right places.
John told the board that if they make these changes it cannot be looked at again for 6 months.
They felt that the Salem Highway area should stay HBD.
Do away with the small proposed change on 2nd East between 4t" and 7t" South.
John said that they have not addressed 4t" South between 2nd and St" West. It is primarily
commercial right now but you also have the assisted living center, a church and apartments.
There is pressure for it to be HDR.
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It was suggested that the board drive around and look at each of the proposed changes before the
public hearing on November 15t''.
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Meeting adjourned.
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