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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES JUNE 14, 2000~o~~ DATE: (061400) PLANNING & ZONING June 14, 2000 9:00 p:m: Present: Chairman: Members: City Clerk: P.F.C.: Council Member: City Attorney: Excused: Davawn Beattie LaDawn Bratsman Doug Smith Ted Whyte Gary Steiner Raymond Hill Mike Thueson (came Later) Bobbette Carlson Riley Bowman Marilyn Hansen John Millar Donna Benfield Stephen Zollinger John Watson and Roger Muir RE: INTRODUCTION OF YOUTH MEMBER TOPIC: (500,253,,,STUDENT ACTION COMMITTEE) Davawn introduced Riley Bowman, the Youth member assigned to the Planning & Zoning Commission. Ted made a motion to approve the minutes of May 24, 2000, seconded by Raymond. All voted aye. The next meeting scheduled for June 28, will be canceled due to conflict in schedules. The next meeting will be July 12. At this meeting there will also be a workshop on enforcement and the subdivision information obtained at the conference in Idaho Falls. Discussion on the revision of the landscaping. ordinance. Gary has obtained a copy of the ordinance from Coeur d'Alene. Other members are obtaining copies from other cities for review. 1 • • °?~~/ RE: PUBLIC HEARING FOR QUAIL HOLLOW ESTATES TOPIC: (500,254,,,PUBLIC HEARINGS,QUAIL HOLLOW ESTATES, WALKER*GLEN,IMPACT ZONE,SUBDIVISIONS,BARNEYDMRY ROAD, PRELIMINARY PLATS) Stephen read the notice of Public Hearing. John reviewed the preliminary plat and requested that-the loop-road off Quail Hollow Drive-have a change of name, possibly to Quail Hallow Circle, to avoid any possible confusion in addresses. The hearing was opened to public comment: Sheila Barney, 650 Barney Dairy Rd. Sheila was concerned about a potential problem with new neighbors with a possible dairy odor from their dairy business. She questioned if there was only a fence between the properties and was told they had discussed trees but Doyle Barney suggested only a fence so the trees would not interfere with a wheel line used for sprinkling. She was not there to make waves but to listen so she would know what was going on. Glen Walker assured the Commission that he had been careful to talk with the neighbors and would assure any potential lot buyers of the possibility of odors. The final plat was reviewed, which was the same as the preliminary plat with the changes suggested at the last meeting. It was determined that Lots 8 through 15 would be renamed Quail Hollow Circle for addressing purposes. The Irrigation Certificate was reviewed and in order. Public hearing was closed and turned to discussion by the Commission. Gary questioned the safety of the Barney's operation in the future and was assured that the restrictive covenants addressed this concern as well as animals that might possibly run astray. Doug made a motion to approve the plat to go before the City Council with the address change and City Departmental approval. Bobbette seconded the motion. All voted aye with the exception of Mike Thueson and Riley Bowman who abstained, because Mike had just arrived and Riley was not acquainted with the project. None opposed. RE: PUBLIC HEARING FOR MITCH NEIBAUR PROPERTY TOPIC: (500,254,,,PUBLIC HEARINGS,NEIBAUR*MITCH,SOUTH HIGHWAY, SUBDIVISIONS} Stephen read the Notice of Public Hearing. John reviewed the location of this property and previous discussions. It is recommended that street names be assigned for emergency services. He also reiterated that there are no dedicated roads in this subdivision. Any person that has any interest in this property will need to sign the plat. • 2 ~~~ No public comment. Public hearing was closed. Discussion on restrictive covenants and road • maintenance, and water rights. Ted made a motion to approve the fmal plat to go before City Council on condition of City Departmental approval. Mike seconded the motion. All voted aye, none opposed. RE: YOUTH AND FAMILY RENEWAL-CENTER TOPIC: (500,255,,,YOUTH & FAMII.,Y RENEWAL CENTER,4TH NORTH,E.C.LP.D.A, TECHNOLOGY WAY,MODULAR HOMES) John reviewed the request of the Youth and Family Renewal Center located on 4t'' North or Technology Way which is currently a youth rehabilitation center. They are requesting additional space for classrooms in the form of apre-manufactured building. The plat was reviewed showing the location of the facility, the proposed addition and a future roadway through the property. If the proposed road gets developed the City will have to work with the Youth Center on modifying their parking lot. The parking lot can be changed to the East in the event this road is realigned. The facility does not fall under an exact requirement in the zoning ordinance because we do not define youth rehabilitation centers. The property is jointly owned between the City and ECIPDA so they can do whatever is necessary with the road when the time is appropriate. Dave Peters explained the main reason for adding the modular is for additional classrooms for ~- the educational needs of the children and support staff. All the children will still reside in the Main Building. The dimensions of the new building would be 1700 sq. ft. and will be on a permanent foundation. This will allow an increase in enrollment from 20 to 30, it has no effect on parking because the kids are not allowed to drive. Discussion on the appearance of the manufactured home and its aesthetics with the surrounding buildings. Comments were that the buildings in that area are nicely done architecturally, does it enhance the area, detract from the area, will it match with the existing building, will it detract from the surrounding businesses. ECIPDA picked out the vinyl colors, it is not brick, but will match with the brick on the existing building and will be landscaped with a sidewalk. The reason for pre-manufactured over stick built is that the Department of Juvenile Corrections is in a crisis right now for facilities for more children and they need the facility within 40 days and another concern is the cost. Sheila Kellogg stated that if this remains at a level that is anticipated, then the Youth and Family Renewal Center will be looking to add to the present building in the future. This addition is a step to deal with the present crisis. Ted did not want to jeopardize the growth of the facility but feels that no matter what you do it will always look like a manufactured home stuck in the middle of the other buildings. Discussion was had on moving the building to the back of the present building but this area was chosen for better access and leaving the back open for a recreation area. A time line far leaving ~ 3 • ~~C~ the building on the property was discussed or facing with brick for better appearance and the site plan does not show the sidewalks or landscaping. Doug questioned if the other landlords in that area had an option to voice an objection. John stated that the building will need an occupancy permit which will assure the facility being acceptable. Where the City has ownership_there is more authority through the Council than through the Planning & Zoning Commission. Dave addressed the issue that the facility will remain fenced, the kids will approach the building from the rear. Mike made a motion that the plan be accepted as shown on the condition that the City Council is aware of what is happening, motion was seconded by Raymond. Voting as follows: Aves Mike Thueson Raymond Hill Gary Steiner Bobbette Carlson LaDawn Bratsman Navs Ted Whyte Doug Smith Abstaining Riley Bowman RE: TRENT BIRCH PAINTBALL COURT TOPIC: (500,256,,,BIRCH*TRENT,4TH SOUTH,BEARS DEN,PARKING LOTS) John reviewed this property whsch is located right behind C-Rex Motel on 4'h South, which area is zoned HBD. Trent Birch is requesting to put in a paint ball court, there is a new 6' vinyl fence on the north side, chain link fence on the west and existing fences on the south and east. Because of the. questionable success of this project Trent has asked that the City work with him on a temporary basis to do an approval without having his parking lot paved Trent explained that when he purchased the property he bought the C-Rex Motel, the ground that went with it and the house to the west. He has remodeled the motel, putting siding on the house and totally renovated the little shop in the middle, adding water and hooked up to water and sewer lines. His goal is to fix the lat up but hates to put a lot of money into asphalting the parking lot until he makes sure the paint ball court will be a success. His focus has been on the motel to make it presentable to people driving by, fixing the yard up toward the front with a white picket fence, fix the parking lot at the motel because it has not been fixed up in years, where the paint ball court is more towards the hack. There will be a "catchers net" put up to protect any of the surrounding businesses. On the back side of the property there is a parking lot, no buildings close by, on the East end is the Brenchley Apartments, the only one ever there is the guy who mows the lawn, so there is no one around that will be affected. Trent explained it is not that he does not want to pave the parking lot, he would rather pave the motel first because • 4 ~~ of appearances. Down the road if the business looks like it is going to go then he will pave the • parking lot. Discussion of conditional permit with time limit and restrictions, tying the parking lot with the motel parking lot, estimated opening date should be approximately two weeks, supplies in the shop, hours of operation until 10:30-11:00 in the evening, noise with air guns should be minimal, most noise is at the end when people shout-and cheer; -and the nighttime lights do-not- extend beyond the property. Trent was questioned what time period would tell him if this is a viable business. He feels two summers will let him know what success the business will have. Stephen suggested that opening this business without a paved parking lot is setting a precedence of letting any new business in town open without paving the parking lot. Although Trent would like to pave the motel first, these businesses need to be segregated and viewed as two separate businesses. Stephen also discussed another option that would benefit both the City and Trent and that would be to fmd a place on Trent's property to take down a couple of feet for the City to use as a holding pond for storm water, also eliminating all the storm water going into Trent's basement. This would be a holding pond that would only be used for a couple of hours until the storm drains can clear then the water would be pumped out. Mitch Neibaur applauded Trent for the improvement he has made on the property but voiced . concern about the parking lot not being paved and what it will do to other businesses on the corridor to downtown. Trent suggested that July is coming up, then winter hits, but next year he could run one full summer and by spring of 2002 he could pave the parking lot. Davawn felt comfortable having Trent write down his proposal just as it was stated, Jahn suggested another option would be to come to an agreement on conditions now with the parking lot paved by such a date; if not, the conditional use terminates which gives him the option of getting it renewed or pave the lot. There was discussion about how fast the rain can come down, the amount of storm water that accumulates in that area and the need for a storm water holding pond, and the best location in that area for a holding pond. John explained how a holding pond works with storm water. Ted made a motion that due to the storm drainage problems on 4t'' South and 4t'' West that between the property owner and the City they have until September 30, 2001, to address the storm drainage issues and see what can be resolved in helping this issue. If things cannot be resolved by that time the owner has until April 15, 2002, to have this parking lot paved. This condition is being granted for storm drainage issues only. Motion was seconded by Gary. All voted aye, none opposed. Meeting adjourned to July 12. 5