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DATE: (030800)
PLANNING & ZONING
March 8, 2000
7:00 p.m.-
Present: Chairman: Davawn Beattie
Members: Raymond Hill
Roger Muir
LaDawn Bratsman
Ted Whyte
Doug Smith
Mike Thueson
P.F.C.: John Millar
Council Member :Donna Benfield
City Attorney: Stephen Zollinger
Excused: John Watson Marilyn Hansen
Minutes: Janet Williamson
A motion was made by Raymond Hill to approve the minutes of February
23, 2000 with corrections. The motion was seconded by_ Ted Whyte. All
voted aye.
RE: ALEX MARTIN
TOPIC: (500,238,,,SIGN VARIANCE,SIGNS,MAIN STREET,JC PENNEY)
John Millar explained that Rocky Mountain Trophy House, located at 7
West Main, will have the J.C. Penney's Catalog business in with them.
They have acquired the J.C. Penney sign from Porters and want to put
it out front. When they measured the square footage on the front of
the building it is just shy of meeting the loo requirement. It is
allowed that the sign could be placed on either side of the building
but it would detract from the Dance Festival mural on the east side and
they would rather have it in front on the Main Street side with their
other sign. For these two reasons they are asking for a variance.
(Pictures of the sign were shown ). His Rocky Mountain Trophy House
sign and the Penney's sign take up about 15o instead of the required
10°s of the square foot frontage.
Stephen said that it is not a variance that he needs. You would be
granting an exception to the rule. It would be similar to Broulims
where we let them take the whole complex and put the signs all in one
place rather then spreading it out. Essentially, even though it is a
single building,. you would be giving them that type of treatment in an
effort to preserve the mural. You would allow him to put the signs
both on Main Street under the accumulative square footage equation that
we use for complexes.
In an effort to preserve the existing Dance Festival Mural, which does
not benefit Mr. Martin, and in the interest of community spirit of
keeping the mural up, Mike Thueson moved that we grant him an exception
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allowing the sign to go up on Main Street with his other sign. Ted
Whyte seconded the motion. All voted aye.
RE: GEORGE BENSON APARTMENTS
TOPIC: (500,239,,,PLOT PLANS,2ND WEST,3RD SOUTH,BENSON*GEORGE,
APARTMENTS)
John Millar explained that Planning & Zoning has already granted
approval for the building that is currently up. They have made some
changes in the scope. The 3 houses are now being moved out and this
plan will bring it up to the full development. John has not had a
chance to review this plan and so any approval from the board will have
to be contingent upon the department heads review.
George pointed out changes made from their previous suggestions and
answered questions. He figured the parking on 104 girls. He would
need 73 spaces and he has 88. It was brought to his attention that the
east side may require some set back because it backed up against a
residential use. Ted did not like the garbage containers on the street
but George said that was the way the City wanted it. It would be too
hard to get their trucks in and out of the complex. John said he would
try to coordinate that with Farrell.
Doug Smith made a motion that they accept the plot plan with the
stipulation it be reviewed and approved by all the City Departments.
Roger Muir seconded the motion. All voted aye.
RE: GLEN WALKER SUBDIVISION REVIEW
TOPIC: (500,239,,,WALKER*GLEN,SUBDIVISIONS,QUAIL HOLLOW ESTATES,
BARNEY DAIRY ROAD,IMPACT ZONE)
John explained that the property is on the Barney Dairy Road, on the
North Side, just East of Del Barney's field. It has been before P & Z
a couple of times before.
Glen explained the plan he had drawn up. They are looking at a 60'
right of way through. The reason they did that is that he understands
that anything over an acre still has to follow Madison County Sub
Division Ordinance and anything under an acre they are subject to
Rexburg City. They are in the Impact Zone. It is rural residential.
(Zoning Ordinance pg. 79, #10) The lots will all be one acre in size so
they have to comply with the county ordinance.
It was asked if they were running city services out to it and Glen said
they were not. It would not be cost effective. Ted asked what the
health department said and Glen said they said there are no problems.
There is only one area back by the canal where. there is a grade. The
rest of it is level. At the back side of it there is a canal right of
way or easement. They left it for them to get to and do their
cleaning, etc. It is out of the flood plain. There will be about
21-22 lots. Discussion about septic tanks - District 7 Health wanted
them to have the septic tanks on one side and the wells on the other
side. Davawn asked John why the City isn't interested in taking
services out to them. John said it was the cost and also the Council
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is leaning very heavily toward the concept that they will not provide
sewer and water service to areas outside the City limits. They were
asked about drainage conditions and Glen said they intend to have grass
go right out to the asphalt and they are going to have asphalt not just
chip seal. All utilities will be underground.
They will be doing it in 2 phases. The road will go in all at once
though. It will be 60'. John said it would require a temporary turn
around. Glen said they would probably put the road in in one shot and
it would not be stubbed off. The homes that front on to Barney Dairy
Road will only be accessed from the new road, not from Barney Dairy
Road and they will put that in the covenants. The front will have a
nice rock wall with a nylon fence.
Discussion on City and County requirements
Stephen said they could go larger then an acre and the county still
would not step in and exercise control. If you were seeking to create
a sub division and wanted to go less then the acreage that is the
minimum end of the impact zone that you are going into then you have to
comply with the City Sub Division Ordinance which then would kick you
into curb, gutter, sidewalk, storm drainage, etc. Board comments:
Roger and Mike would like to see easements there if the city sewer and
water should ever go out there. (Discussion of county and city road
and easement requirements). Ted would like to hear from District 7.
Mike had concerns about the visibility of the corner lot.
Davawn told Glen they had the boards blessing.
RE: AIRPORT ZONING ORDINANCE
TOPIC: (500,240,,,AIRPORT BOARD,AIRPORT,ZONING ORDINANCE, FAA)
John did not have the ordinance ready so they tabled it until next
meeting.Discussion: John said in compliance with FAA part 77, which
requires any new construction within a designated area to file a form
with FAA, there are 4 new homes under construction south of the airport
that filed a form. It came back from FAA that they were not a hazard
to airway navigation and nothing would be required of them. Those 4
homes are in compliance with FAA requirements. Davawn said they are
required to do that anyway so what does the board need to do. John
said they were asking the boards opinion or direction for the building
permit department as to whether or not we want to require that as part
of the building permit process. Stephen said they added that as part
of their check list. The thing that is still pending is the ordinance
adoption and the issue of whether or not they try to obtain aviation
easement or acknowledgment. John said the feeling of the board last
time was that with easements or acknowledgments it was more paper work
then it was worth. They felt it could become so broad it could go all
over town trying to enforce that paper work. It becomes quite a
nightmare and does it really give us anything in the end. Roger said
the key is the form; that it is in the packet with their building
permits. Ted said the building committee had the leeway of deciding
whether that needs to be part of the process or not. A home on the
;~ hill doesn't require it. John said even those near the airport, if
it's a home in the middle of a bunch of homes, even if it's within a
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quarter of a mile of the airport, we are not going to require it.Tabled
to next meeting.
Meeting adjourned.
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