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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES APRIL 22, 1998~~ • DATE: (042298) Pre-Hearing for Comprehensive Plan 6:30 P. M. Planning & Zoning Regular Meeting 7:00 P. M. • Present were: Chairman: Members: City Clerk: Councilmember: Engineer: Planning & Zoning 4/22/98 John Millar Mary Ann Mounts Jim Long Davawn Beattie Ted Whyte Mike Thueson Roger Muir Doug Smith Rose Bagley Bruce Sutherland Joe Laird Other attending: Consultant: RaNae McGee; Mayor: Nile L. Boyle; Councilmembers: Marsha Bjornn, Farrell Young, Nyle Fullmer; County Commissioners: Jerry Jeppesen, Reed Sommer A motion was made by Jim Long and seconded by Roger Muir to approve the minutes. All Aye RE: PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOPIC: (500,67,,,PUBLIC HEARING,COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,ZONING ORD., PLANNING AND ZONING) Public Hearing for the Comprehensive Plan- John Millar introduced RaNae McGee, Planner Consultant who has helped the Planning Commission on the Comprehensive Plan and turned the time over to her to make a presentation on what the city is proposing. After she is finished we would open it for public comment. RaNae- She described what a Comprehensive Plan is and what it is not. She defined a Comprehensive Plan. (1) It is a general guide; it is not an zoning ordinance. It is used for policy makers to help them make decisions about the future of Rexburg. It can also be used by developers, by people who want to make investments in the community, and citizens when they are reviewing development proposals in their neighborhoods. She went through the process of how we did the Comprehensive Plan. She told who they interviewed, how they got Data Information, about the community meetings and the process Planning & Zoning went through. They also took population projections. It is estimated that the population of Rexburg is approximately 16,000 right now. They updated the land use survey. The population projection prepared by Idaho Power tell us that in the year about 2010 we should be at about 20,500 people. She then told how much land would be needed for different uses. The ~~; y~if `~~ Planning Commission then sat down and mapped where they wanted to see • commercial, residential, open space, apartments and industrial using principals such as access, soils, hills, use, the college, schools, and growth. After talking to people and brainstorming we came up with four things: (1) The need to keep downtown vital and strong. (2) The need for parks, green belt along the river. (3) Transportation (corridors) (4) Land Use Plan (general bases but not zoning). She discussed the demand for commercial on the North and possibly on the South, looking down the road 15 to 20 years. Discussion residential growth on the West and South, Multi family in the South West portion close to the college. Industrial looking at sites with good access to U.S. 20 and good access to the Railroad and to the airport. The airport is retained at the existing site. There is a river front park proposed in this plan. We don't have a river front park so what we did was pick up areas that are in the flood plain and designated it as open space. When we were doing this we asked if we need another park and felt that possibly we would need one in the southern part of Rexburg. The State Law requires that the Comprehensive Plan address 14 elements. The two major elements that are in those 14: Land Use and Roads. Discussing major arterials and also the bike plan. ~' John Millar discussed the process and opened the meeting for comment. Bob Carlson- He asked if RaNae had some ideas on developing Main Street? She stated because this was not a plan to do a downtown plan, it didn't ga into a lot of detail in terms of what you would do downtown. The comments we got was how important downtown was for the community. What has worked in other communities is a good organization of the other people that want to keep downtown strong with the help of the local government. You need to create the unified goals of the downtown area. One thing is to have a strong organization, figure out what you want in the downtown. You need to do an analysis of what don't we have that we need that would fit very well downtown. You need to go out and actually recruit those type of businesses. Other people have found cut that it really does not work to go create a mall downtown. Look at your buildings and see that they look good and are well maintained. Do you have the right plumbing and wiring? If the business has a great character, you might want to preserve it. What makes it unique? Look at grants to help. It takes a whole combination. It takes a strong downtown organization. Jerry Jeppesen- 500 East 1000 North - After reading this plan he had found a few changes that need to be done. The Police location is different, it has moved. The Medical Services for the hospital is not ~ at the hospital, it is housed at the fire station. On the _ transportation part, it talks about 3000 North east of the Salem Road • as a major arterial. At this time that road is a dead-end road which is not listed on the map. Why was that designated as an arterial? \ . ~~ ~`~-° '~~ • Doug stated probably because it is an arterial from Hibbard and Plano to the Salem Highway. Jerry .also indicated that 1000 North being an arterial does concern him because he lives on that road and asked why they designated it as an arterial? Joe explained.. Jerry felt it would qualify as a collector rather than an arterial because it will be a development of houses which would qualify it as a collector. If it is an arterial it would need to be 80' wide and you would have problems with setbacks. The route on the south does go through an area that is very steep and would require a significant amount of fill. Jeff Lochridge- 1175 N 4000 W- He is a sculpture. He had read in the paper about this plan and came to the meeting because he had been giving some though about donating a landmark piece to the City of Rexburg. There would have to be money raised other than the the city donating the ground. Bruce told him he would need to come to the City Council and present the idea. Discussion John Millar closed the hearing and stated that we would take written comment for two weeks. Anyone wanting to give written comment would need to get it to Rose. RE: PUBLIC HEARING FOR LARRY & CHRISTINE BEESLEY ( • TOPIC: (500,69,,,PUBLIC HEARING,BEESLEY~LARRY,ST'H w.,SETBACnS, VARIANCE) Public Hearing for Larry & Christine Beesley- Public Hearing regarding proposed issuance of a variance to: (a) allow for a sub-standard lot size and (b) allow for a variance for less than the required setbacks in the front and back yards. The property is located at 50 and 80 North 5th West in Rexburg, Madison County, Idaho. John Millar opened the hearing. Larry Beesley presented plans and gave his presentation. The reason they are considering building this house is his mother Clara Beesley lives on the corner at 80 North 5th West and owns the ground between that and the house at 50 North 5th West. They divided the lot at 50 North 5th West off and sold it. His mother is having a hard time walking and they would need to make the house handicapped accessible. His sister lives with his mother and they have the grou:,d between them and the house at 50 North 5th West and felt it would be better to build a new home that was handicapped accessible. In 1990 the zoning was changed on lot sizes and now the lot size needs to be 8000 square feet. In order to build the house the way they want, they would need to go from the north property line 85' which would be between the existing house and an existing garage that has been there since the 1950s. If they divided it up it would make that lot 5610 square feet which is a sub-standard size lot. The idea is to divide that off so when they do build a new home they can sell the existing home which is paid for and the money from that can go toward helping • pay for the new home. The variance they are seeking on the other lot is to get wider hallways and covered patios. The lot is only 66 feet deep and he is not sure there is 20 feet from the city right-of-way. In order to be in line with the existing houses we need two or three ~~ i more feet at least to get back far enough to put wider hallways. His . mothers house is 15 feet from the property line. The old garage is two feet from the property line. They want to maintain the old garage with the new home.. In order to keep both lots at 8000 square feet they would have to tear the garage down. Larry and his mother both use it for storage. The line between the older garage and her existing house now requires 7 feet and now there is only about 11' 7" between the buildings. They are seeking a variance there to leave more of the property with the house and would have about 4 foot from the actual wall line of the old garage which has 1 foot over hang so it would be 3 feet to the property line. The most they would approach the back property line would be within 16 feet. In 1987 when he built the house at 50 North 5th West, they had plans of building a home or a duplex on the lot and they had to dig up road for the sewer line. The city extended the water line down that side of the street to accommodate the house he built in 1987 and a couple of existing houses. The water line at that time was across the street. When they dug up the road they put in a 6" sewer line and stubbed it over and into this lot so they. could hook up a future building without digging up the road. John Millar opened the hearing for public comment. Auther Paul-65 North 5th West- He lives right across the street. That shed sets on two lots and has been remodeled several times. The depth of the lot does not leave rriuch lot behind the douse at 50 North 5th West that Larry built. They could sell that lot. He feels they should • leave the law as it stands at the size of lot that has been set. They feel the lot is just too small for a house to built on it. John Millar read a letter from Larry Woolf who owns the lot at 50 North 5th West. He is against issuing a variance for building the house. Copy of letter on file. Larry Beesley- When he sold the house to Steve Woolf he had explained to him they were concerned about the size of the lot but they were planning on building a duplex on the lot. The lot would meet the city code between his property and this lot. Also Mr Paul said something about selling that lot, if he can't build a house on the lot how can he sell it to someone else to build a house unless it was a very small house. They don't own the property behind the house, Camphouse own it and thev have not wanted to sell it. John Millar closed the hearing and turned it over to the board for comment. Discussion on the size of the lots. John told the board there are two issues. (1) The creation of a sub-standard lot that would be for the existing home. (2) The variance request for setbacks. It takes a variance to create a sub-standard lot and also for the setbacks. Davawn asked Larry if he could jog the lot over. Larry said he couldn't because he needed to access the old garage. The board explained in order to grant the variance it needs to meet the criteria • listed in the ordinance for a variance. (Discussion) Larry explained he could not afford to tear the old garage down because he used it for ~~ //• storage as well as him mother and sister. Discussion how he could split the lots. John Millar stated that what he is hearing from the board is they are having trouble finding that the variance meets the criteria. A motion was made by Mike Thueson that we continue the hearing until May 13 to see if there is a resolution that can come from moving some property lines and enable us to get some input from our Legal Council. Seconded by Jim Long. All Aye RE: STEVE HADLOCK REQUEST TO BUILD A STORAGE UNIT BEHIND MEDICINE SHOP TOPIC: (500,71,,,HADLOCK*STEVE,MEDICINE SHOP,STORAGE UNITS,ALLEY'S) Steve Hadlock- 50 South 2nd West- He was requesting to build a storage unit for his business and personal use. He presented a plot plan and explained. This would be behind the Medicine Shop. There is a three way alleyway going back to it. The alleyway is owned by him, Retrex and Randy Landon owner of apartments on the west. It is a permanent access. The board told him the plan meets all the requirements and is okay. All of the department heads have approved the plan. (discussion) There was some recommendations from the Fire Department, which he said he would comply with. RE: STEGELhiEiER REQUEST TO BUILD APARTbiEi3TS iii EKiCTIiv^v GARia^vE,AP^rR0'v'ED !` . TOPIC: (500,71,,,STEGELMEIER*LOREN,APARTMENT,2ND N.,PARKING) Stegelmeier Apartments at 237 East 2nd North- Krehl Stegelmeier was at the meeting to explain and show the plans. They would like to make two apartments out of the garage. They will have a total of 6 apartments. John Millar explained this is zoned H.B.D. Krehl explained the parking. The apartments that are there are grandfathered and they would just be expanding to the garage which is under the same roof. A motion was made by Doug Smith and seconded by Jim Long to approve the plan. Joe explained to him there is 25 foot setback and the parking could not be expanded into that setback. All voting aye to motion. RE: ALAN BATT APARTMENT PLAN APPROVED TOPIC: (500,71,,,BATT*ALAN,PARKING,APARTMENT,2ND W) Alan Batt Apartment Plan- Joe explained this board had already approved the plan but there were some changes. The people living in the townhouses on the north have registered some protest with the owner about looking at the back of the buildings. They have had some discussion with Mr Batt about moving the building and moving the parking lot, so the buildings would be together and the parking would be together. Everything else would stay the same. Ted stated that there will be two more phases to the apartments, so eventually there will be someone looking at the back of buildings. The alternate parking and buildings would still meet the requirements and be okay. i• ~~ ~/ ~,_• • RE: DEAN BIRCH PLAN FOR FOUR PLEX TOPIC: (500,72,,,RIGHT-OF-WAY,BIRCH*DEAN,APARTMENTS,DUPLEX,PARKING, LANDSCAPING) Dean Birch plan for 4 plex- This item was added to the agenda today. Joe presented the plan. When we looked at it before the commission had approved the plan with landscaping when there was a garage there. He has torn down the garage and is asking to put up a 4 plex apartment. Our ordinance 5.6 states that in a residential zone, which this is, the parking shall not be allowed in any front yard and the required front yard is 25 feet back from the right-of-way. The board indicated that Dean had done his fence illegally. If we do require that to be the 25 foot landscaping setback, then there is only room between the proposed buildings and landscaping for only a driveway. The mayor was there for the plan review and stated that by our Ordinance he needs .7 parking places and he has parking across the road. The mayor also stated last year Deans parking lots was never 60~ full. The board suggested that if he ever changed and rented to boys there would be more cars. The board felt we need to hold him to the 25' setback. We have done that across the board. Mike Thueson felt the parking issue is important. Scott Kidd was at the meeting and he felt we need to increase the parking requirement. JOE zst ated there i5 iaiid 8~:apiiig around tiie iTianager'S office. By ^v ur ordinance the isles need to be 22' and his are drawn at 20'. If it is • drawn for compact cars you could probably get the required width on the isles, but it has not been drawn that way on the plan. As far as the number of parking spaces, if you take the old units that existed previously at the .5 of parking space that was allowable at the time they were built that required 198 parking spaces, 2 more for the manager, and then the 9 units that he built requires 38 spaces. According to the plan there is at least 4 two bedroom with at least 4 girls and the manager's office which is 4 spaces and the new 4 plex if there were 6 girls in it, that would say there needs to be another 17 parking spaces. That would make the total required parking at 259. He has 233 parking spaces. He does have parking across 2nd West. The mayor told them that parking is within 200 feet which is allowed. Jim suggested we need to check with Stephen about the liability of crossing the street. The board suggested that every time Dean builds he is in such a hurry he wants to do it right now. Discussion on the layout of the parking. Maryanne stated she has gone past that parking lot and it has been full. The mayor stated it was never full. John suggested that if we approve it we don't yield on the number of parking places or on the landscaping. Discussion on the plan not meeting the requirements and if it should be tabled until it meets the requirements and that he not be allowed to get a building permit until it meets the requirements. The mayor stated that you can get a building permit at the discretion of the building official. A motion was made by Jim Long that we table it until we get a complete site plan that spells out the number of • parking spaces, setback and screening and that we communicate to him that as the plan presently is shown he is not eligible for a building ~~; • permit until the plan meets the requirements. Motion seconded by Mike Thueson The mayor stated that the fellow that has been in the service station only left four days ago even though he has been trying to get him out of there. The reason he wants to start now instead of in three weeks is because the Sunbirds complained last year about being in the dust from the construction. The mayor told the board that he gets so many complaints about department heads and the Planning and Zoning. He felt the Planning Commission was too restrictive. He discussed the issue with the Planning Commission. Scott Kidd felt Dean should meet the requirements. After the discussion,Jim amended his motion to state we approve the plan contingent upon Joe's and the department head approval. Seconded by Mike. All Aye to the motion. John Millar told the board the final review of the Comprehensive Plan would be May 13 at 6:00 P. M. Meeting adjourned. •