HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 1997`~
• DATE: (091097)
Present were: Chairman:
Members:
City Clerk:
Engineer:
Attorney:
Planning & Zoning
9/10/97
7:00 P.M.
John Millar
Davawn Beattie
Ted Whyte
Jim Long
John Watson
Mary Ann Mounts
Rose Bagley
Joe Laird
Stephen Zollinger
A motion was made by John Watson and seconded by Davawn Beattie to
approve the minutes of August 27, 1997. A11 Aye
RE: PLANS FOR A WAREHOUSE ON SOUTH 5TH WEST
TOPIC: (500,12,,,BAGLEY*TERRY,5TH WEST,MELALEUCA,RIGHT OF WAY,
LANDSCAPING)
Terry Bagley was at the meeting to show plans for a warehouse on South
. 5th West next to the other warehouse and Melaleuca. There is an old
house on this property that they are going to tear down. They would
like to build a warehouse there. It would be about 13,000 square feet
which is about half the size of the warehouse they built a year ago.
They hope Melaleuca will lease the warehouse for storage. If they
don't go in there it will be for he and John for storage and possible
to rent out a bay to some farmers for machine storage. Melaleuca
will only go with a two year lease and renew it every two years. They
are contemplating building a new big building down to Idaho Falls and
he thinks they want to consolidate, but it hasn't happened yet. They
have some employees up here and they have cheaper rent here than they
can get anywhere. They have three small manufacturing units up here
and have filled the whole warehouse up within 30 days after they built
it. We want to keep them in Rexburg.
Showing the plan- they have showed the right-a-way, they will pave on
the east side of the building, part of the paving will have a 5 foot
wide sidewalk which will connect in front of the other building which
has paving too. He has provided 9 parking spaces. For .the other
building they are using about 1 parking space. They have a lot of
space for more parking if they need it. He explained the plan with all
the parking and the area where there could be more parking. There is
10~ landscaping requirement and he showed the landscaping plan which
would be about 800 square feet. Joe discussed the parking for a
warehouse which previously this board decided was too much for this
type of warehouse and went with "Other to be decided by this board".
• All department heads had approved the plan with the fire and wastewater
approving it pending what they will be storing in the warehouse. He
had talked to Dee at the fire department who told him he would not
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need another fire hydrant. Terry said they would not be storing any •
hazardous material. They would be using water to hose the equipment
off.
The board did not see a need for 26 parking spots and that 9 parking
spots would be adequate. A motion was made by Jim Long that we approve
the plan as presented with the provision that if it changes use that it
be brought back to this board to re-look the parking requirements.
Seconded by Ted Whyte. All Aye
RE: NEW BUILDING AT THE FAIR GROUNDS
TOPIC: (500,13,,,PAYNE*DAVE,C.U.P.,FAIR GROUNDS)
John Millar told the board that at the last meeting Dave Payne was
there with a plan to build a building to house pigs during the fair.
We told him they would need a Conditional Use Permit. Since then John
had talked to Stephen and if we were putting in a new fair grounds it
would require a Conditional Use Permit but it was Stephen's feeling and
John concurred because they are replacing an existing building at the
same location, it would not require a Conditional Use Permit.
RE: JOE ROMNEY RENTING HIS HOUSE TO RICKS COLLEGE STUDENTS
TOPIC: (500,13,,,ROMNEY*JOE,PARKING)
A letter that Rose sent to Joe Romney, because he is renting to
students it would require three parking spots instead of two even •
though by Federal Law, 4 individuals constitute a family. Our
ordinance requires .7 parking spots for students which would require 3
parking spots.
Aaron Romney stated that this is his house and they are temporarily
moving out of the house and into to his parents house who are in
Israel. They are staying in their house while they are gone and are
renting out their house to get a little money to do some home
improvements and then they will move right back in next summer. He
knew that four individuals constitute a family so he did not anticipate
a change in parking requirements. He knew there was a designated
student parking requirement but did not think it applied because this
constituted a family and the definitions did not differentiate between
students and none students. The parking requirement for one family is
two spots and he thought it would stay the way it is. You could fit
three cars in the driveway, but one would have to be behind the other.
He questioned if he rented to four people that work at Artco, the
parking would not change but it would not have to have the student
parking regulation?
Stephen stated that he and Rose met with Mr Romney and discussed the
various aspects. The only reason he is here is to get this board's
stamp of approval that there, is no existing parking problem. If there
is a parking problem after reviewing it he did not believe he would be
required to have 2.8 parking spots. What he is required to have is
sufficient parking for his needs would be the only standard of the
two. A motion was made by Davawn that this parking situation be
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• declared within the requirements of a single family. Seconded by Jim.
All Aye
RE: DISCUSSION ON APPROVING FENCE TO BE 50~ SEE THROUGH
TOPIC: (500,13,,,FENCE,RIGHT OF WAY)
Stephen asked the board if they remembered approving the plan for the
50 per cent see through fences. It had been discussed but not voted
on. (discussion) Is there some type of fence that would be allowed in
the set back area that could be higher than three feet and still meet
our requirements? Stephen's recommendation was 50~ ridged construction
fences will be allowed inside 15 feet of the public right-a-way.
Behind that area they can put none see through fences. The only
modification is that in that 15 foot buffer zone that we would allow
rigid construction fences up to five or six feet with 50~ see through.
(discussion) A motion was made by Davawn to allow fences in excess of
three feet if constructed out of rigid materials and approved by
Planning & Zoning with 50~ or more see through per lineal foot and that
they be between 3' and 6' high within 15 feet of the right-a-way.
Seconded by Jim Long. A11 Aye
RE: 0500 MECHANICS ADDITION
TOPIC: (500,14,,,CONSTRUCTION,COMPLIANCE,0500,5TH WEST)
Discussicn about 0 500 Mechanics addition. It is not in compliance.
• Stephen said the use was there so there is no change in use. Joe will
write a letter to them telling them they will have to meet the
requirements with their construction.
RE: ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY NORTH OF WALMART APPROVED
TOPIC: (500,14,,,ANNEXATION,1000 NORTH,2ND EAST,WALMART,
HASTING*BRETT,SEWER AND WATER,ROADS)
8:00 P. M. Public Hearing pertaining to the annexation of the City
properties north of the city as described at Parcel 1, Parcel 2, Parcel
3, and Parcel 4 as described in notice. The property is north of
Walmart, next to Sears and the Grease Monkey.
Jerry Hastings showed a proposal and explained again what was planned
for the property. John Millar cautioned the board that this is not for
site plan approval.
John asked for public comment. Jerry Jeppesen- 500 E 1000 N, which is
exactly 1/2 mile from this project. He was concerned about the
annexation of 1000 North, he asked if that was included in the
annexation? Stephen told him it was included in the request. The
first 550 feet would be annexed into the city at least for
responsibility purposes. Jerry stated his concern is living on 1000
North and the access off of 1000 North. It is very difficult to get on
to the road and now you will have traffic turning into that road going
north. His questions had to do with the site plan not the annexation.
• The residents on that road are concerned about access onto the
highway. They would like to see an access over to Walmart so they
can access Walmart stop light so they can get onto the road. John
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Millar told him it had been discussed as a possibility, however it is •
down the road and an agreement would have to be reached with
Walmart. Jerry Hastings told the board that the plan fits in the
Impact Zone of the city.
Stephen told the board that the site plan is a separate issue from the
annexation. There is no requirement that they tell us what they are
going to do with that property only generalize if it is going to be
commercial or residential. The reason that generalization is even
required is to give you the ability to analyze the things that are
pertaining to annexation. Can they provide infrastructure, is there
any question that water can be provided to this development, is there
any question that sewer can be provided, is there a question that storm
drainage can be provided or can traffic be handled with this
annexation? Hastings have given us some of the specifics as they
hope it will develop to help us. They hope to develop the piece to
south, none of the land to the north will be developed in the near
future. (discussion) This is before us at the request of the
Walkers. Brett Hastings has done all the leg work but it is before
us at the request of the Walkers family. They have nothing to do with
this development. They want annexation irrespective of this
development.
Sherwood Ricks-(Wendys}- He asked what effect this would have on
his business? John Millar told him the annexation will probably have no
effect. The development that will subsequent come onto that property
will obviously increase traffic. Mr Ricks asked if there would be any •
costs to the neighboring businesses? John told him no. Stephen told
him the infrastructure that serves his business is already in place.
Close hearing and turned to board for discussion.
Mary Ann stated she felt that there is a real problem for the people
living on 1000 North where Jerry lives. She also thinks that we are
maxing out with the traffic on that road. She said she can
sympathize with him because it is impossible to get across 2nd East
from 2nd North.
Stephen asked John Millar from an engineering stand point if he
believed that 2nd East was anywhere near its capacity? John stated
that is not anywhere near the capacity that it is going to be seen or
designed for. Mary Ann did not want it to be like 17th street and she
had some concerns. John stated it is a concern but it will be the main
arterial north-south through town forever. As such it will continue to
get busy. It is zoned in the Impact Area H.B.D. and will develop that
way. Stephen stated what we are looking at is can the city service
commercial growth in that area with the city resources? If you are
contiguous to the city you can request annexation of right and it is to
be reviewed based upon the ability of the city to provide the services
necessary to serve that property. He asked Joe if we have the capacity
to handle that type of a development? Joe stated that there is no
problem with sewer and water. The only question with storm drainage is .
depth. If the existing storm drainage is extended farther north will it
physically be able to service this area before it gets out of the
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• ground with the grade of the pipe? He thought it will be able to do
that. Stephen stated for a simple annexation request you are limited
to if the infrastructure the city will be over burdened by any type of
foreseeable use of this land. You will get a second look when the site
plan is brought in. They are trying to get help and see 1000 North as
a problem area that needs help. Possible the county or city can come up
with a solution of reconfiguring the intersection at 1000 North.
A motion was made by John Watson to recommend to the City Council that
this property be annexed based on the fact that we feel that the
infrastructure is there and recognizing that we will have a site plan
to review. Seconded by Jim Long. All Aye
Stephen reported on the R.D.A. meeting. This development came before
that meeting. It is being developed under a Limited Liability
Company. They are seeking assistance in putting in Lorene Drive.
The reason they are seeking assistance is they feel they don't need
that road and don't care if that access is there or not. They don't
feel that road will benefit their development proportionately. It will
benefit all the development to the east. They don't know why they
should have to pay for the development of the road completely out of
their pocket for a road that does not access or benefit their
development significantly. That is why they are asking R.D.A. to
assist. R.D.A. sent their attorney away to determine whether or not
the existing Urban Renewal Zone which is out there can be amended to
include this annexed property. If it can they would give consideration
to approximately $125,000 of tax increment financing for that road. If
it cannot he felt they were not looking at coming up with any other
financing. Jim Long stated that everyone was positive. There are a
lot of good reasons that this road should go in, but is it tied to this
development enough that they should bear the entire cost of the road is
why they came in to seek community help. The site plan is not really
ready to come before this group yet.
Jerry stated that the other concern that both the city and the county
have to address and that is 1000 North. Jerry also stated that because
of the traffic and volume of people on 2nd East is the reason for the
interest from the national chains. If Rexburg and Madison County don't
want that kind of business, then you will have to shut things like this
off. You already have the people and traffic. The growth is there.
A motion was made by Mary Ann and seconded by Davawn to adjourn. All
Aye
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