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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES AUGUST 27, 1997 DATE: (082797) Planning & Zoning .8/27/97 7:00 P.M. Present were: Chairman: John Millar Members: Mary Ann Mounts John Watson Mike Thueson Jim Long Davawn Beattie Doug Smith City Clerk: Rose Bagley Councilmember: Marsha Bjornn Engineer: Joe Laird A motion was made by Mary Ann Mounts and seconded by Davawn Beattie to approve the minutes of August 13, 1997. All Aye RE: PLAN APPROVAL FOR EL-GENE'S STORAGE BUILDING TOPIC: (500,7,,,ALLEYS,SITE PLANS,PLOT PLANS,EL-GENE'S) • Storage Shed Plan Behind E1 Gene's. John Page representing Dean Palmer Construction was at the meeting t0 S~iOw a sitE plait fGr aii addition tv their warehouse. He has an existing warehouse building in the back of his business to the south. He would like to double the size of the warehouse. Joe read from 5.9 of the Zoning Ordinance. It would eliminate 3 or 5 parking spaces and it requires the P&Z to give a variance for eliminating those parking spots. Mr Page said no one has ever parked there, it is just vacant space. Mr Davenport stated that he had paid a lot of money in the L.I.D. for use of the downtown parking lots, but it is too far away from their business to do them much good. John Millar asked how the access would be into the building? They will put an overhead door in the center in the back of the building. They will butt the two buildings together. Discussion on the drainage in the alley which is not their property and the access of the alley. It is in C.B.D. and he paid into the L.I.D. for parking so that is not an issue. The Department Heads have approved the plan. Joe discussed the storm drainage. A motion was made by Davawn Beattie and seconded by Jim Long to approve the plan. All Aye RE: SILVERTREE BUILDERS PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR PROPERTY BY SEARS AND WALMART. TOPIC: (500,7,,,ANNEXATION,PLOT PLAN,HASTING*BRETT,SILVERTREE,SEARS, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS,UTILITIES,2ND EAST,TAX INCREMENT,1000 NORTH, STREET DEVELOPMENT) Brett Hastings representing North Point Property Company (Silvertree Builders) was at the meeting to present a preliminary plan for the development out next to Sears, North of Walmart adjacent to the Grease Monkey. They want to get the board familiar with this development C • prior to the annexation hearing. They are working with Benton Engineering out of Idaho Falls. They bought the property all the way out to 1000 North. They have been working with some national known retailers to bring them into the city and do a significant commercial expansion out north. They are currently finishing the negotiation with a nationally known retailer of office supplies and have come to an agreement with an auto supply rztailer. There will be 6000 square feet of smaller retail space and they are talking to some local businesses. They have their anchor company. They have approximately 150 parking spaces, which should be more than enough to accommodate what they need. one building is 24,000 square feet and another building is approximately 7000 square feet. Their agreement with Sears was that they would sell them the land and Sears would give to them a permanent ingress and egress easement because they had this kind of .thing in mind. This would be the main entrance and exit off of 2nd East. They are working with the county for some tax increment financing for the road to help get it put in. The project is valued at about 3.4 million dollars. It will bring in a good tax base increase into the community. The county commissioners gave them positive feed back on doing tax increment financing to get the road done. They are asking for some help from the city and county to get the road put in and the utilities back in the property. What they are doing now will not interfere with 1000 Norm. ThEy did talk to the county CommiccinnerS about 1000 North . and that is another reason they are looking at doing a tax increment financing on this whole project when they get into the second phase because there are a lot of issues on 1000 North about sizing of the road and what to do with the power line and all of those things. Joe said we need to do something with the road with a north-south street coming into the area to connect into the Walmart road so Walmart traffic could come out and onto 1000 North relieving some of the congestion. Maybe it would not need to be done with this development. (discussion on the streets) They have been Agency and E.C.I.P.D.A. about the streets. Monkey had an agreement that they would ex of the property was developed to the east. back 10 foot past the end of the pavement, sewer. talking to the Redevelopment Joe stated the Grease tend the road when the rest The utilities are extended water, sewer and storm John Millar asked if all of the buildings would be under L.O.C. ownership? Brett told him they would be under one ownership local with their company and they have negotiated long term 20 year or more leases with the tenants. John said if it was one ownership they would not need a subdivision plat. Brett said they were working on the land next to 1000 North but do not have anything solid yet. This would be just the first phase of the development and they have the people ready to.go in. In their planning they have not considered any of the problems on 1000 North yet. They know they will have to deal with those problems eventually when it is developed. The main concern is the street. They • don't have the money to develope the road. That is why they are trying to find help or sharing the cost. They had gone before the R.D.A. board and asked for funding for that road and they told them no because • that was something the city and the county should be doing. Jim was concerned because he was on the Redevelopment Agency and he had not been to any meetings where this had been discussed. Discussion on the lighting of the project. John Millar told him as far as getting it approved the first time to adhere to the ordinance and work closely with Joe. Brett said they are hoping to start in October so they will bring the final plan. to the next meeting when the Public Hearing is held. They have planned a lot of landscaping and as part of the lease agreements with the tenants they have to take care of the landscaping. John Watson questioned that they have a lot of developments where the developer is responsible for developing his half of the road so lets assume the property on the other side of the road isn't going to be developed for some time, can he develope half the road and stop? John Millar stated not according to our ordinance. John Watson asked how you can force the people on the other side to develope that road? Joe stated (1) The city council can say you Mr Developer will have to do all the road. (2) They can create a L.I.D. and make the property owner on the other side pay for his half of the road or (3) They can say the developer will have to do all the road and when the property owner on the other side of the road developer we will get the money back from him and pay you back. Brett stated that in going before the R.D.A. and talking to them about 1'lelpiiig them with this road it was interesting that every mayor on that board from other cities was quite surprised that our city and county don't have any organization or process to help with that kind of thing. Pocatello, Blackfoot, Idaho Fa11s, all those areas stated that when they see a project like this they asked why isn't the city or county stepping in to help develope that to bring in that kind of a tax base? John Millar told him in the ordinance it states you cannot develope 1/2 a street. John Watson stated that the city also requires the developer to put in all the utilities and it gets to be quite costly. Brett said that has been a hard issue for them after paying a high price for commercial property. After you put in all the improvements and tap on to them, then think of all the people down the line that tap onto the utilities and reap the benefit and the developer has no recourse to recoup their investment in the road and utility lines. John Watson felt that the city and county should be more progressive in developing streets and utilities to encourage development as oppose to saying you do it. He also stated one real problem is the storm drainage. Every development that comes before this group is faced with the storm drainage problem and the city tries to force the developer to develope a storm drainage and there isn't even a system to tie. into. Brett stated that they are excited about the development and it would bring in 60 to 70 jobs with phase one. There will not be any displacement of jobs in the other businesses. • (~ • RE: NEW BUILDING AT THE FAIR GROUNDS TOPIC: (500,10,,,MADISON COUNTY,FAIR GROUNDS,C.U.P.) Dave Payne representing Madison County was at the meeting to discuss a building to be built at the fairgrounds. It will be 24' X 90' and will house hogs and sheep during the fair. They plan to build it with horse stall space so they can bid on the Arabian Horses regional competitions. John Millar told him it is zoned Open Space and will require a Conditional Use Permit. A motion was made by Davawn Beattie and seconded by Jim Long to set this for Public Hearing for a Conditional Use Permit. All Aye RE: L.E.W. FINANCIAL (COLONIAL TK & AUTO PLAZA) SIGN VARIANCE TOPIC: (500,10,,,MAIN 5TREET,VARIANCE,SIGN,POD'S) 8:00 P. M. Public Hearing for L.E.W. Financial for a Sign Variance at 250 W Main. A Public Hearing held before the Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Rexburg, Idaho, Wednesday, August 27, 1997, at 8:00 P. M. in the Council Chambers of the City Building at 12 North Center, Idaho regarding proposed issuance of a variance to provide as follows: That the owners of the property at 250 West Main be granted a variance allowing for the placement of a sign having approximately 90 square feet of copy which is an increase from what is provided for in the sign ordinance. The property is commonly known as the P.O.D.S., and is located at approximately 250 ~7est Mair.. Brian Call and Wayne Call were at the meeting to present the plan for the sign. They are the owners of L.E.W. Financial. They are looking at a variance for the size of the sign. There are several items that are mandated from the state for automobile dealers to have on their sign, one of them is your complete name Colonial Truck & Auto Plex, dealer number, address and phone number. There are several other pieces of information that has to be on the sign required by state law and it also states that the writing on the sign has to be easily and clearly legible. That will dictate the size of the letters. The small letters they like a minimum of 4 inches. It is a lighted sign. The sign they had designed gives them what is regulated by the state. (plan on file) It does not give them any room to advertise the business. There are two feet of changeable reber board at the bottom to advertise the sign. The hearing was opened for public comment. Ken Wagner- He questioned where the location of the sign would be? There is a planter box that is already there and they will put the sign in the same location-because the power.. is already there. He also questioned the size of the sign? The board clarified it for him. (discussion) Mr Wagner said he had no objection to the sign. Hearing closed. John Millar opened the hearing for the board discussion. {discussion) A motion was made by John Watson that based on the requirements from the state and the need to make the sign • visibility and contingent upon Stephen's legal interpretation that the variance be granted. Seconded by Mary Ann Mounts. The board felt that i this was reasonable because of the information required to be put on • the sign by the state. All Aye to the motion. RE: WATSON FRUSTRATION OVER CITY PROJECTS TOPIC: (500,11,,,STORM DRAIN,NEIBAURS*MITCH,ALLEY,MAIN STREET, WATER METERS,JAIL) John Watson expressed his frustration. On the jail project he had to go in and put a storm drain and we didn't have any storm drain so he put in a french drain on Mitch Neibaur's property and the county had to pay for that in order to drain that property in back that never has drained. He also had to replace all of the water service under the courthouse, under the new juvenile detention project the water meters were put in the wrong place, so the city required them to move them. The city has seen this as an opportunity to fix everything that has been a mistake or that is worn out. They put a new water meter and service to the new jail which is a cost to the developer which is the county. Another issue, everyone on Main Street from Mitch Neibaur on down are probably financially capable to resurface the alley behind their building, but there is a big argument on who owns that alley. Is it a city owned alley or not? John Millar said he researched that and it is a city alley and was paved once by the city. John Watson said none of the alley drains. What John Watson sees is that the developer is expected to correct everything and is that fair? John Watson said he is frustrated because every development he does dowr. town he has the city saying that this is an opportunity to fix what is wrong and unload it on the project. He felt that sometime the city needs to say we need a new Storm Drain System. John Millar stated it would have to be done by a G.O. Bond. Joe stated that there are some people that are interested in developing the property North of the Basic American Potato. It is owned by Grace Bird Property and is in the impact zone. What can go in there? Part of the property is zoned R.R. and part is zoned Ag. They are interested in putting in higher density residential. There are some nuisances with businesses and industrial. Do we want to increase or decrease residential there? He asked the board to think about it. Meeting adjourned.