HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES JUNE 11, 1997~~~
DATE: (061197)
Planning Zoning
6/11/97
7:00 P. M.
Work Meeting regarding the Comprehensive Plan was held at 6:00 P. M.
Those Present: Chairman: John Millar
Roger Muir
Davawn Beattie
Mike Thueson
Jim Long
Ted Whyte
Mary Ann Mounts
City Clerk: Rose Bagley
Attorney: Stephen Zollinger
Engineer: Joe Laird
Councilman: Marsha Bjornn
Meeting called to order.
A motion was made by Davawn Beattie and seconded by Ted Whyte to
approve the minutes of 5128/97. A11 Aye
RE: WESTERN RECYCLING
TOPIC: (400,213,,,MAY*STAN,IST EAST,PARKING,WESTERN RECYCLING}
Stan May representing Western Recycling was at the meeting to show a
plan for the Western Recycling building on North 1st East. He had
checked with American Land Title who checked on the easement but he
did not know who it belonged to. (he explained the plans). He would
have three to four employees. He stated that according to the
ordinance the closest thing they could find for a parking regulation
was 15 which seemed like a lot. He could come up with 12 parking
places. He stated there was a question on the category. Joe said the
closest thing they could come to as a category was a warehouse which
required two parking places per 1000 square feet of building and Mr May
felt that was excessive for the type of business he was in and wanted
to appeal to P&Z to go to the section of the ordinance that states
parking could be as directed the P&Z. It would be different than
anything we have in the ordinance.
The board questioned what happens if .the building gets sold and they
need more parking? Discussion on the parking. Discussion and concern
about the ownership of easement. This plan only works if he has access
to the easement. Stephen stated that you can't sell a piece of property
unless you provide access to a public road. If the title company
thinks there is an existing easement that would work. He was told he
could not park in the easement. Discussion on the room for the truck
parking and turn around. John Millar stated that he felt he was
working too hard to make to big of a building fit on to small of a lot
and still provide parking. He stated that he could cut the building
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down to 50 feet wide instead of 60 feet wide. John stated that we
don't have any guarantee what will go in there perpetually so we need
to make sure the parking is adequate. Stephen stated if they decide to
sell the building after the fact and change use, the city can say we
can't give you your business licence unless you provide adequate
parking. The board told him to come back with the drawing showing
parking and screening and bring in the easement as to who owns the
easement and the use. The board suggested that he would need 15 or less
parking places using the judgement of the board.
RE: JARED SOMMER
TOPIC: (400,214,,,PUBLIC HEARING,PARKING,APARTMENTS,NOISE)
Public Hearing for Jared Sommer- 215 North 1st East- A Public Hearing
regarding proposed issuance of a conditional use permit to provide as
follows: It is being requested that the following described property
be granted a condition use permit for the construction of a home with a
single family apartment in the basement. The property is currently in
a LDR 1 zone. The property is located at approximately 412 South 3rd
East. LOT 2, BLOCK 1 OF THE SHERWOOD HILLS ADDITION PLAT OF THE CITY OF
REXBURG, MADISON COUNTY, IDAHO, AS PER THE RECORDED PLAT.
John Millar turned the time over to Jared to explain his request.
Jared Sommer explained that he had drawn up his plans and presented
them the Arr.hiteCtural Coritrnl Com~??ittee consisting of Gary Aiman; Rob
~ Webster, Mark Rudd of the Sherwood Hills Addition and they all looked
over it and approved the plans and signed off on them. He had also
followed the Protective Covenants which states that with the
Architectural Control Committee's approval they would approve the
apartment for a single family residence. At a previous meeting Val
Christensen, who's property is next to the Sommer property, had opposed
it, so he had gone to the drawing board and drafted up the parking that
would be amenable to him and he felt okay about it.
John Millar asked if there was anymore comments from the audience.
Jim Green-419 South 3rd East- immediately across the street from the
property. He did not know anything about it until he had received the
Notice in the mail. He had some concerns, parking was one concern.
They have on the corner just down from them, right next to the Sommers
property, a four plex for single students. They already have a noise
factor there. If there can be some guarantee from Mr Sommer or anyone
he might sell to in the future cannot not rent to single students and
that the house will not become a rental unit then he would not have
strong objections to it. He did not know if that would be possible and
the last thing he would want would be for their residential
neighborhood to have student housing move into it anymore than there
already is. If there are not somekind of guidelines to keep that from
happening, he did not know what would stop this gentleman from selling
his home in a year and having twelve single students living in there.
They already have the problem on the corner without this committee's
permission they put cement all the entire front of the building. It
was the old Buena Vista and it has cement all the way across the front
of it and he would not want to see anymore of that taking place in
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their neighborhood which is a primary residential neighborhood with
numerous children on that street. If we have student housing in the
neighborhood it would increase traffic which would be a concern to most
people in .the neighborhood. He talked to Gary Aiman since he signed
and he is concerned after having signed as to what protection we have
in the neighborhood to keep that from turning into a permanent rental.
Mr Green felt that it would not bother most of them until Mr Sommer got
on his feet to have him rent to a married family for a while. There
needs to be somekind of protection that it does not become a permanent
rental.
Mr Sommer stated they would never be able to exceed 5 people in the
rental unit as it states in the Zoning Ordinance and they have stated
they would only rent to 4. He showed him the plans. They are going to
keep all the parking on the side where the four plex is. Mr Green
stated he is opposed to him renting to single students and talking to
the others in the neighborhood and they would be opposed to it.
Married students would be different because of the vehicle use and
noise. Mr Green stated that Mr Aiman was under the impression it would
be rented to a married family not students. Mr Green also stated that
he was afraid that they would find other buildings coming up in the
very same area for the same purpose of providing single student housing
which is totally unacceptable to everyone he knew in the neighborhood.
Ct er,h e~; ±~n,l rl him to nl ari fv~ tha narki nn wpul d limit It tQ four. Jim
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Green stated that he did not think that the zoning would allow single
students and argued that he and one other family only got notices. The
city clerk showed the list of everyone within 300 feet that had been
sent notices and a picture of the notice that had been posted on the
property. Mr Green again stated there is a big difference between
single students and a married couple.
John closed the Public Hearing and turned it to the board for
discussion.
Jim Long made a motion to table it to another meeting to allow more
neighbors to attend the meeting. Stephen told him all the neighbors
within 300 feet had been notified and could have come to this meeting
or submitted written testimony. The board explained to Mr Green the
definition of a single family which is up to four non related people.
John Millar told him that was a Federal Law. (discussion on definition
of a family) Motion died for a lack of a second.
Stephen told him Jared had come before this board three or four months
ago and the definition of a family was explained and this was before he
went to the Architectural Board. There has always been single students
allowed and Mr Sommer has represented that they will rent to whomever
will rent it but cannot exceed four single students as defined in our
ordinance. Mr Green wondered why he did not know about this sooner.
Stephen told him we are only required to send a legal notice for the
Public Hearing and that is all that is required. It is not required of
the city to send any other information. We cannot discriminate against
the type of family and we go by the Federal Law on the definition of a
family. He told Mr Green that the Architectural Board signed off on the
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,!~ plans. Mr Sommer does not even have to tell them or the city he is
going to rent to single students. It is legally inappropriate for the
neighbors to consider if the family will consist of a married couple,
single students or other types of a family unit. Discussion on types
of families. Stephen told him that his vote today was in favor of
granting the Conditional Use Permit whether he meant it to be or not
because h said he would accept a single family and that is all this
committee can consider. We cannot talk about what kind of a family can
locate in that apartment. Mr Green stated he could not speak for the
other neighbors and he felt it would be a courtesy to them to let them
know what is happening. He was again told they were all sent a legal
notice, it was in the paper and posted on the property and that is all
that is required by law. The board told him we have to be fair to Mr
Sommer too. He has been working on this for several months and to deny
it because people are out of town or watching the ball game it is not
fair.
Stephen pointed out to the board in a discussion that it states in the
protective covenants that it is subject to single family rentals. In
our Ordinance he is allowed a rental unit under a Conditional Use
Permit.. Ted stated that there are two homes that have put in
apartments and have not come before this board. Mary Ann asked Mr Green
where those rentals park if they did not come before this group and get
it and the parking approved. Mr Green said they probably park in the
parking fir tha apartrrient GQmr~l ex ar-rnsa the rpad~
~,~ Jared stated he did exactly what he was instructed to do. He went to
the Architectural Control Committee and explained to Gary Aiman exactly
what he wanted to do and told him he would rent to students. He was up
front with it. He had his plans signed off with this Committee.. Then
he came to Planning & Zoning and Val Christenson wrote a letter that he
was against it. Jared then asked P&Z to give him a denial because he
did not want to cause the disruption in the neighborhood. He then went
to Val Christenson the next neighbor on the south and showed him the
plan. He said he did not like it and ask Jared to change the plan as
he has done. Val said he did not want the students walking and
infringing on both sides of the house but wanted them kept on the side
by the existing apartment, which he did. He had kept the students on
the side that boarders the apartment complex. Mr Christenson felt good
about the revised plan. Mr Green argued that he had not been shown the
plan prior to this meeting and other neighbors had not seen the plan.
Jared felt that was what the Architecture Control was for. Jared
stated he had waited six months, he had $500 earnest money in it and a
deadline on the purchase, so it is either now or never.
John Millar stated that basically he had followed the letter of the law
and we have followed the letter of the law. All the owners of record
were notified.
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A motion was made by Roger Muir that we approve Jared's Conditional Use
Permit and plan. Seconded by Mary Ann Mounts. Those voting Aye: Roger
Muir, Davawn Beattie, Mike Thueson, Ted Whyte, Mary Ann Mounts. Voting
Nay: Jim Long. Motion Carried.
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Jared asked what
they can appeal
have grounds to
was notified and
off on the plan.
subdivision.
would happen after this meeting? Stephen told him
it to the City Council within 15-days. They have to
appeal it. John stated that everyone within 300 feet
the Architecture Group was notified and they signed
That Architecture Group was elected to see over the
Meeting adjourned.
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