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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES APRIL 09, 1997l~~ DATE: (040997) Present were: Chairman: Members: City Attorney: City Engineer: Councilmember: Excused: Minutes: Mike Thueson moved to approve the minutes of 3/26/97. Mary Ann Mounts seconded the motion. All Aye. RE: DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE TOFIC: ( 400, 177, , ,DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION rprrrglTTEE,ALLEY WAYS, COLLEGE AVENUE,CARLSON AVENUE,LANDSCAPING,STORM DRAINAGE) • Stephen reported on the Downtown Revitalization Plan. At the present time, the committee is still assessing the matching funds, working primarily on where the matching funds would be generated. A downtown committee has been created to categorize or prioritize what type of work they want done in the downtown area. At this point it is safe to say they are looking at the alley ways, revitalization of the back entrances to stores, parking and possibly some sort of modification of College Avenue. At the present time the committee consists of Chuck Porter, Mitch Neibaur, Archibalds, Jim Long, Vern Liljenquist, Stephen, Joe and Mayor Boyle. They are all interested in parking. Joe said that what they would like from Planning & Zoning, (individually or collectively) are their thoughts on how we can help with this downtown revitalization --- things that they, feel need to be concentrated on. Such things as rounding at the corners, landscaping, repaving of the alleys and storm drainage. We need a total plan and then break it up in to phases as the money becomes available. At this time they are only considering going South to Carlson Avenue. Jim felt they needed to go as far as Ricks College. Marsha felt the committee needed more representation from Planning and Zoning. PLANNING & ZONING 04/09/97 7:00 p.m. John Millar John Watson Jim Long Mike Thueson Mary Ann Mounts Doug Smith (left at 7:45) Ted Whyte Davawn Beattie Stephen Zollinger Joe Laird Marsha Bjornn Rose Bagley, City Clerk Janet Williamson • • RE: HOSPITAL PARKING LOT TOPIC: (400,177,,,HOSPITAL,PARKING LOTS,EMERGENCY ROOM, HANDICAPPED PARKING,SIGNS) -John Millar tabled this to go to the Public Hearing for the Hospital Parking Lot. John Watson presented the final parking plan for the hospital. The problem now is the steep grade and no handicapped accessibility. One of the projects the hospital is going forward with is an expansion of the E.R. and the OB-GYN center. There is still a question about where the ambulance will end up. In this final parking plan they are eliminating the two roads that go up to the E.R. entrance and main entrance and will have one entrance in the middle. They will have a lot of new signing to direct people that. will eliminate a lot of confusion that exists now. There will be a drop off zone. The administration will need to have a policy for employees to park in the back East parking lot. The North parking lot is handicapped accessible to the hospital elevator and a lot of the public is not aware of this. The new parking lot that is being expanded is the West parking lot. Carl Smith, 18 Ash Avenue, said that what concerned him the most is how far out towards Ash Avenue are they going to bring the West parking lot and the access road. ~TOhn Watson said they will enter the parkina lot f . off of Ash Avenue. They are not going to widen the road or change it ~ in any way. They will be bringing the parking closer to Ash then it is now but there will be a big landscape buffer. Visually you are not going to see a big parking lot. Most of the planning and zoning members felt that all of the improvements will add to property value. Jim Long asked John to justify the need for all the parking. Couldn't he eliminate the last row of parking and put in landscaping. John said the biggest problem we have now is not thinking ahead. The hospital is growing so rapidly that they do not have enough parking. (Discussion}. John Millar asked that he make sure he maintain the sight distance on the corners when they do the landscaping. Members of P. &. Z. felt this solution helps a great deal with safety on the curves. John Watson said we will gain about 45 more parking spaces plus you will have better traffic flow and safety. He cannot change the grade but the parking will have a terraced effect and it will be level where you park. They hope to start in June and be finished by October. While they are under construction they. will education the public to the North and East parking lots. Carl Smith asked if there will be an increase in traffic on Ash Avenue and John said yes there would be. They are working hard to solve the problems that exist. `• • Mike asked if they had considered widening 'Ash Avenue to-the corner. John sees that as part of another problem connected with the development of Main Street up to the hospital. ~g ~1~ Keith Steiner mentioned that Health and Welfare are. moving out of the • front part of the hospital and that will relieve some of the congestion. Dan Davenport, 473 Maple, asked if they would be doing any blasting with the construction of this parking.. John Watson said no; they have done some soil tests and all of that is fill. Jim Long made a motion that they accept the parking plan as is with the exception of the last west 8 parking spaces. That those be delayed until such time as the need is proven for them. He amended his motion to eliminate them all together. Motion died for lack of a second. Ted Whyte moved to approve the plans as drawn. Mary Ann Mounts seconded the motion. John Watson declared a conflict of interest. Doug Smith left before motion was made. Those voting Aye: Mary Ann Mounts, Ted Whyte, Mike Thueson, John Millar, Davawn Beattie. Voting Nay: Jim Long. Motion passed. Marsha read from the I.C. Newsletter that there is a special meeting in Boise on May 13th and 14th to give the latest information for downtown revitalization nation wide. John asked if anyone was interested in helping on the downtown re,.italizaticn CC.^.l'Ylittee. gr~t~; Tla~rawn Rgattie and Ted Whyte expressed an interest. • RE: NEW BROULIMS STORE TOPIC: (400,179,,,BROULIMS) Joe had a rough draft plan of what is proposed for the new Broulims store. (He explained and discussed with the members the preliminary draft drawings.} RE: MASTER PLAN KEY ISSUES TOPIC: (400,179,,,ARTERIALS,OLD YELLOWSTONE HWY,AGRICULTURE AREA, 4TH SOUTH,SOUTH INTERCHANGE,H.B.D.) In November Joe sent out a memo discussing master plan key issues. Joe gave them a new handout. (attached.) John Millar said he has read through most of them and feels that they cannot discuss all 21 items in an hour. He thought they could take one or two of them each time and determine if they do have an interest in trying to provide some direction in these areas or are they pleased with where it is at and let things happen. Tonight they could talk about #1. The South Interchange Area and #2. New South Interchange Connection Street. (discussion.) Joe stressed determining access or major entrance roads. Stephen said the simplest thing to do is to work within your own ordinance. Create a new category of roadways that you define in your ordinance. Rather then defining a geographical area define a type of road and access and • landscaping for that. Joe said they have discussed but never passed any real policy on access control. i~~ ,,_ Issue was tabled until Joe attends seminar at the end of this month. John Millar said that before they finalize the master plan they need to decide about the agricultural .areas. #3. Old Yellowstone Highway from the South Interchange to 4th South.. Does P & Z want HBD zone along the entire frontage of this street. Joe asked if they want all the mixture of zones that is in there. {Discussion). RE: IMPACT ZONE TOPIC: (400,180,,,IMPACT ZONE,COMPREHENSIVE PLAN) John asked if they were okay with the Impact Zone as it is or do they want to provide more direction. Everyone felt they needed to do more planning and give more direction then this for the comprehensive plan. Joe stated that this is a Planning and Zoning Committee that has mainly done zoning. Stephen cautioned the committee --- you can't plan what someone does with their property. You can plan the type of use that you will allow the property to be used for. Joe said that we need to look at more of a standardized zoning. • Joe pointed out that in June they will be discussing land use and in r May transportation. He is setting forth here, in this memo, a bunch of questions on transportation and on land use that you need to give some serious study to be able to provide answers in this comprehensive plan. We really need to make an intensive effort in planning. John Millar asked the members to read Joe's handout very carefully and give thought to more serious planning. RE: LANDSCAPING STRIPS AROUND THE CITY TOPIC: (400,180,,,LANDSCAPING,SIDEWALK,SNOW REMOVAL, LANDSCAPING STRIPE,RIGHT-OF-WAY) In February Mary Ann asked everyone to look at the various landscaping (planting) strips around the city. John asked if they had done this and asked for a motion tonight on this issue. John stated that where ever you have curb right against sidewalk that within a few years you have the sidewalk breaking up. John Watson felt this was the best argument they have for having a landscaping strip between the curb and the sidewalk. It was also felt that you need more area for snow removal. Mike Thueson made a motion that in all zones except CBD and Industrial there must be a green strip on the right of way from the curb to the sidewalk with a minimum width of 7 feet. Davawn Beattie seconded the motion. All Aye. (John Millar, John Watson, Ted Whyte, Mike Thueson, Jim Long, Davawn Beattie, voting. Mary Ann left before motion was `- • made.} i~ ~ Davawn Beattie moved to adjourn. Ted Whyte seconded the motion. All • Aye. Meeting adjourned. • •