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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES FEBRUARY 12, 1997!J~ DATE: (021297.) Planning & Zoning 02/12/97 7:00 P. M. Present: Chairman: Board Members: Excused: Council: City Clerk: Attorney: Engineer: John Millar Mary Ann Mounts Davawn Beattie Mike Thueson Roger Muir Richard Smith arriving at Jim Long, Ted Whyte, John Marsha Bjornn, Glen Pond, Rose Bagley Stephen Zollinger Joe Laird 8:25 P.M. Watson, Doug Smith Nyle Fullmer RE: REQUEST FOR C.U.P. FOR APARTMENT IN HOME IN SHERWOOD HILLS TOPIC: (400,164,,,C.U.P.,APARTMENTS,SHERWOOD HILLS,SOMMER*JARED) Jared Sommer-was at the meeting to request a Conditional Use Permit in Sherwood Hills to build a home with an apartment. He has gotten the approval from the Architecture Control Committee for that Subdivision. He WCUld 11ke t0 have a tW0 bedr0viii apartiiient tC house 4 Cr 6 students. John Millar told him with 6 students it would take 5 additional parking spaces. Jared showed a plot plan with the parking. He would have a three car garage. John told him only one parking spot could be counted in the setback area. Discussion on the parking. He was told according to the ordinance he would only be allowed to have 4 students in the apartment. With four students he would need three additional parking places. He would need to bring a revised parking plan back to this board. We did not have a quorum yet so we would have to wait to make a motion for a Public Hearing. RE: PARKING PLAN REVISION FOR ERICKSON PONTIAC TOPIC: (400,164,,,PARKING LOTS,ERICKSON PONTIAC,CLEAR SITE TRIANGLE, FENCES,LANDSCAPING) Parking Plan Revision for Erickson Pontiac. Dave Waldren representing Forsgren Associates was at the meeting to present the plan. John Millar declared a conflict of interest. Mary Ann Mounts chaired this issue. Erickson Pontiac purchased the old Calaway Motel and are using their old office as an office. They are repaving and reconstructing the parking lot. Joe had checked the plan and made comments on the plan. They will have excess of 10~ of green space. They will use an 18" curb to put the fence in. Preliminary plans are to put light post inside and in various areas to provide adequate lighting for the area. They will slope the ground to provide for adequate drainage to a single catch basin on the property and out to the existing storm sewer. They plan for a chain link fence with slats to provide a visual barrier to the residential area. They would not put anything in the Clear Sight Triangle as corrected by Joe. The lighting will be shielded from the residents. They want to keep it as residential looking as possible. • C7 l~~ (Joe discussed how the landscaping and fence is addressed in the ordinance) They will landscape with grass, shrubs and trees. A vote to approve or disapprove will be later in the meeting as soon as we get a quorum. RE: DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION DISCUSSED TOPIC: (400,165,,,DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION) Downtown Revitalization- Davawn showed some pictures that Jim Long got of these type of projects for ideas. These were landscaping ideas. With the amount of money we will have it will be a small improvement project. (discussion) Some ideas were: Joe suggested infrastructure; other ideas were improving College Ave; demolishing an old building and making a park; extending the Tabernacle Civic Center park; a park or something in conjunction with the new court house; using the Wood property for a park; something to improve the back door access to the businesses. It was decided to not have a work meeting on February 20 for the Comprehensive Plan because of the county public hearing. There will be a public meeting for the Comprehensive Plan on February 27. RE: CROSS SECTION'S, ROAD WIDTHS; LANDSCAPING DISCUSSED TOPIC: (400,165,,,CROSS SECTIONS,ROAD WIDTHS,LANDSCAPING,SETBACKS, RICKS PALMER SUBDIVISION,PLANTIivG STRIF) !~ Work Meeting with the council and citizens for Road Width and Landscaping of residential, collectors and arterial roads. Joe handed out a copy of reasons for and against these widths and landscaping. {on file) Marsha Bjornn asked for comments. Joe discussed the issue. Davawn questioned if we are being too restrictive. Stephen explained that he had comments this week, it may be in the presentation of the cross sections that there is confusion. When we talk about 110 foot road right-a-way or in Gene Palmer's case they were calling it a 85 foot road section, the feed back he got was they pictured a 85 foot road. Stephen suggested the road would be 50 feet with five feet for the sidewalk and 10 feet landscaping. He asked Gene how it would differ from if he owned it and was required to put a sidewalk in. If the city required him to put in a sidewalk and it be no nearer than 7 feet to the curb, you would have the same results only he would own the property. Gene felt that if people wanted to do that it was different than for someone to arbitrary give 20 feet of land which is unreasonable. (discussion) Gene said he had talked to a lot of people who are trying to get into their first home and they are having to make incredible sacrifices. Some people who are trying to upgrade to a larger home have given up because it took them so long to get the equity in that home and they are not willing to saddle the extra financial burden they will have to assume. Everything you add to the cost will cut the building down more. (discussion} Discussion on curb side sidewalks and also safety. Joe discussed issues of the Phase 4 of the Ricks Palmer Subdivision. Dave Waldren from Forsgren explained • some drawings he had done to help the problems they would have with the road in Phase 4 and the right-a way in the area of the canal. ~~ John Millar suggested that right now we require a 25' setback from the property line. What if we changed it to a 20' setback, allowed then a 5' to 7' planter strip which would not change anything but would get us a planter strip. Gene Palmer said they could probably live with that. John said that would allow for a usable safe sidewalk that could be maintained year around. Sheila Barney was at the meeting and stated that she was concerned. Richard Srnith arrived at the meeting. Roy Jeppesen was at the meeting to ask about the, arterials. Stephen told him the locations of the arterials are not on the agenda, it is just the cross sections. Glen Pond told him the council already approved the location within the Impact Zone. The county will have to approve it. (discussion with Stephen, Richard and Roger) John Millar asked for a motion on approval of the minutes. A motion was made by Mike Thueson and seconded by Mary Ann Mounts to approve the minutes of 1/22/97. All Aye The board reviewed with Richard the Application for a Condition Use Permit in Sherwood Hills for Jared Sommers for an apartment for 4 students. A motion was made by Mary Ann and seconded by Mike to set it fC~r rubiic: Heating. ii1" SOTT1111er w8S tvid aie needed t0 brliig .~.a. a parklny^ plan to the next meeting prior to the Public Hearing. All Aye to the motion. The board reviewed with Richard the parking plan revision for Erickson Pontiac. John Millar declared a conflict of interest. Mary Ann chaired the issue. A motion was made by Davawn and seconded by Richard to accept the parking plan with the change for the Clear Site Triangle as re-drawn, and the board recommend they have the fence and landscaping as drawn. All Aye Glen Pond told the board the council brought up the issue on Hill road from Phase 4 of the Ricks Palmer Subdivision and they were concerned about the economics. Now they have found out they can't enter onto Hill road so that has changed that problem. His feeling is he is in favor of having the strip. Marsha Bjornn said she would like to see the planting strip. Richard felt John had a good idea to change the setback regulation for all over town and strike a compromise. Nyle Fullmer felt the strip had worked good on 2nd East and everyone cleans the snow, but the strip is only about 4 to 3 feet. (discussion) It was suggested that everyone on the board go around and look at the areas that have a strip and how large they are and how it works. Because the 4th phase of the Ricks Palmer subdivision preliminary plat has been approved, it would be grandfathered. Meeting adjourned.