HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES JULY 10, 1996~c1
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DATE: (071096)
Those Attending: Chairman:
Members:
Excused:
City Clerk:
Engineer:
Attorney:
Council Member:
Planning & Zoning
7/10/96
7:00 P. M.
John Millar
Mary Ann Mounts
Ted Whyte
Mike Thueson
Davawn Beattie
Richard Smith
poug Smith
Rose Bagley
Joe Laird
Stephen Zollinger
Marsha Bjornn
A quorum was not in attendance so no decisions could be made. A work
session only was held.
RE: MAP OF COUNTY'S TRANSPORTATION PLAN DISCUSSED
TOPIC: (400,101,,,MAPS,ARTERIALS,EASEMENTS,COMPREHENSIVE PLAN)
Joe explained a map for the County's Transportation plan. This has not
been approved by the County Commissioners or their Planning Commission
yet, but it has been reviewed by the Transportation Committee and there
will be one more meeting with them before they really approve the
county transportation plan. This is the most recent version, but there
still might be some changes. (referring to the map, copy attached)
The lines shown in purple are the ones that would be major arteries
because they will be the ones carrying the most traffic in the long
term. The yellow lines would be termed a minor arterial. Either of
them would probably have a 90 foot right-a-way, the purple ones may go
to 100 or 120 feet of right-a-way at the major intersections with other
major streets for right turn lanes of double left turn lanes. This
would be bases for a long time in the future when the area around
Rexburg is completely built up so when you go through the Idaho Falls
stage, the Boise stage and Salt Lake stage. This would provide
arterial streets if the area were built up. This would be planning so
if subdivisions develop and as we see all of the homes being built on
county roads through out the county so the county and city has some
means of saying we need this amount of right-a-way on these particular
road and have an overall plan in mind as to what is going to be the
major roads and some idea of what the widths will be. Seventh south
from the interchange up to south of college over to the east is one of
the main east west arterials. It would be good if Main Street would
have been extended to the east, but instead we have a hospital in the
road. We now will have to go to 1st North and extend it to the east
and down through the Millhollow area and up the cliffs on the other
side to provide some kind of east-west arterial for the downtown area.
Just above that is the Barney Dairy Road as we have discussed it would
be good if that was a much wider road but with it having a narrower
right-a-way it is still going to become one of the heavier traffic
streets in town in the future years. Discussing the drawings as
attached sheets explains. Discussing the bike and jogging paths.
(the people did not come to the meeting for the Millhollow Subdivision
plan)
Stephen told Joe if they adopt this map in the formal sense that is
being implied, they have to start paying people for those easements.
His guess is this is a Comprehensive Plan type map without dictating
that this is a mandated roadway. These are conceptional maps because
State of Idaho anytime they make an informal mandated roadways they
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can be forced to buy the land, which in this case would be millions of
dollars. Joe said it would give you a guideline so when the area is
platted, you can require it be platted as part of the subdivision plat
for the right-a-way. Mike asked if anyone could build a house where
the roads are indicated on the map? John Millar told him they could.
Stephen told him the county is in the position to deal with that right
now with their Planning & Zoning Ordinance that they are working on.
They can restrict access on any county road today and have been able to
do that before but have not exercised it. If the county has this map
as a general plan and they act upon that in the back of their mind this
is a Comprehensive Plan, if they are doing their job well their
Planning & Zoning will start to act upon this. Stephen suggested the
roads he is talking about are those like 10th East that are non
existing roads. Stephen explained that on section lines there are
established right-a-ways, but we can't claim right-a-ways along any
proposed roads unless they want to pay far them. The Pole Line road was
a section line road that was taken by an easement, but when they went
to widen it the last time they had to get somemore easements. The
county has a statutory right to the easement along the section line
road but they have to improve it. They can't just tell someone they
can't use the property on a section line road because they have an
easement. Stephen explained to Lyle Smith that these roads are
proposed for several years from now, they want to be aware of where the
proposed roads are. (Joe explained the roads in the Millhollow, Barney
Dairy, and 1st North areas). Joe asked Lyle Smith where he would like
to see a road. Lyle explained where he farms and where Sefferd's
property is next to Lyles.
John Millar explained that in the Comprehensive Plan it shows 5th South
coming, in and tieing into Millhollow. (discussion)
Stephen had to leave.
RE: SIGN ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATIONS
TOPIC: (400,102,,,SIGNS,SIGN ORDINANCE)
Sign Ordinance- Because we don't have a quorum, we can't take any
action only make recommendations.
Billboard- Non Accessory Signs- A recommendation to delete "Billboard"
and on Non-accessory Off Premise (Free Standing) add to 24 sq. ft or
None above building height except by C.U. There is a error on Copy
Area, it needs to be 100.
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The other one is in all areas, adding to allow all Non Commercial
Directional Signs within the Public right-a-way. John Millar suggested
that instead of entering it in every table, to just enter it in a line
item. Just put an * behind Directional signs in all areas and bring it
down and say, "Non Commercial Directional Signs allowed in the public
right-a-way with a Conditional Use Permit" no more than 6 square feet.
Sub referenced under Section 15.01. (footnote)
"O" Lot Line- Stephen wanted to talk about the "O" Lot Line but he had
to leave.
Household Pets- A recommendation was that we allow 5 mammals and direct
off spring which can't exceed that number for more than 3 months.
The next meeting is scheduled for July 24, that meeting will be held on
July 31.
Meeting adjourned.
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