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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES APRIL 24, 1996~/ "~ DATE: (042496) Planning & Zoning 4/24/96 7:00 P. M. Those present: Chairman: John Millar Members: John Watson Jim Long Mike Thueson Roger Muir Mary Ann Mounts Davawn Beattie Ted Whyte City Clerk: Rose Bagley Council Member: Marsha Bjornn Attorney: Stephen Zollinger Engineer: Joe Laird Recognition of scouts. A motion was made by Jim Long and seconded by Davawn Beattie to approve the minutes of April 10. All Aye RE: PLAN5 FOR NEW JAIL - FENCE APPROVED TOPIC: (400,81,,,JAIL,STORM DRAINS,DRAINAGE,FENCES,RIGHT OF WAY) ( ~ John Watson declared a conflict of interest. He then showed plans for the new jail. He showed the actual working drawings. There is a masonry wall around it on the lower wall with razor wire on the upper part. Talking about the fence on the west side, if you park in the parking lot you will not be able to see into the compound. On the top of it is where the concertina wire is. On the back there is a lower part of the roof that is not two levels and there will be wire across it, so no one can drive along in their pickup and jump up on the roof. There will be a chain link fence on the east with razor wire on the top. The only place you would see it is on the east side. John Watson showed where the landscaping would be helping shield the fence a little. The outdoor exercise area is totally enclosed with a 16' 8" Wall and you will never see them. It will be an entire enclosed space. The reason we have that is the building code says if someone sets off a fire alarm, you have to let the prisoners out. That may happen once a year. (Jim discussed the landscaping pertaining to security.) John Millar stated he thought the community would rather have security rather than esthetics. John Watson said he is done with the drawings and ready to bid the project. The utilities are concerning him. P&Z had previously given him permission to put in French Drains on site because they could not get into the Storm system. He had told them he would work really hard to get into the storm system. He has been down the alley measuring and they were going to tie into the one by Coop. He had talked to Joe and the department heads over there. The catch basin over there is about 18" below the surface and he can't get into it. John Millar said he knew that and told him the only option would be to pump into the city sewer and he would have to pump a long distance to do that. John Watson said he did not see a way for him to ~~ tie into the city storm system. John Millar told him the only one that is deep enough and large enough, they would have to cross the road over by the old Tri County Equipment and get into the 42". He had met with the fire department .and will put a fire hydrant out in back. John Millar said we had already approved the plan, we only had a few questions about the fence. Stephen asked John Watson to put in writing to keep on file the request for the height, location and type of fence abutting against the right-a-way and bring it back and let this group sign it. A motion was made by Jim Long to approve the height and location relative to the setback on the Jail fence on the plans as presented. Seconded by Davawn. All Aye A motion was made by Mary Ann to allow the razor type fence in accordance with 4.7-Section B & C of the Zoning Ordinance which allows the P&Z board to allow it in certain circumstances. Seconded by Mike. All Aye RE: RICKS COLLEGE REQUEST FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR VARIANCE FOR PARKING LOT AT CORNELL & 3RD SOUTH) TOPIC: (400,82,,,RICKS COLLEGE,PARKING LOTS,CORNELL AVENUE,3RD SOUTH) Davawn Beattie and Mike Thueson declared a conflict of interest. F- Davawn presented a request to go to Public Hearing for a Variance for ~ the College Parking Lot at the corner Cornell and 3rd South. He showed the plans and stated that they are not going to put in the picnic area because they could see it being an invitation to problems. It will be a holding area for water. They will drain the parking lot into that area and it will be a catch basin for water which will be gravel. They might go ahead and landscape it and not define it as a picnic area. The basic plan will not change. Jim commented on the landscaping. John Millar stated that there are some non conformities with the plan. On both the east and the south they do not conform with the setback as we require in other parking areas. On the south side part of it is actually on the city right-a-way which will need an approval from the City Council plus a Variance. Question if the site triangle is clear which will have to be looked at. A motion was made by Mary Ann to set a Public Hearing for the variance. Seconded by Ted. All Aye Stephen asked them if they would all go through the zoning ordinance and make a list of any changes we need to make that they have come across. We will put it on the next agenda. RE: PARK PLACE APARTMENTS PARKING - P & Z SAY MUST FOLLOW ORDINANCE) TOPIC: (400,82,,,PARK PLACE APARTMENTS,PARKING,SIGNS) Marsha Bjornn told the board she, the mayor, and Glenn Pond met with Randy Schwendiman about the paving at Park Place. His premise was that this was the city's problem. He does not have enough parking places because when it was approved back at the time of the flood the city should have had foresight to see that they did not have enough parking, they had twenty-owners and twenty-four parking places. They were ~3 '• originally approved as condominiums back then. If they would have been apartments there would have been more parking required. Right now they are renting some of them as apartments and some are still condominium owned. Marsha stated what it came down to was a compromise to use the asphalt area for the parking and he would do anything we wanted with the space between the sidewalk and the road. He would dig up the asphalt and put trees, planters or anything we suggest. Glen suggested that he move the big sign from in front and put it up on the building. Marsha questioned if that would comply with the sign code? The man on the east has given them permission to drive on his property and park. They have talked to Upper Valley Industries to the west of them and they will not sell them any ground. (discussion) Stephen stated they should have not been allowed to do it but it is done so you have to work your way back to a position of satisfaction on both sides. His alternative is to tear it out and put red rock back and you have a weed patch. Marsha stated that they have already cleaned it up and he thinks that if they don't have the parking for some of these people they are going to move out and it is going to go down hill. Stephen stated that with the current ordinance we have no authority to dictate what they put in as far as landscaping. Stephen suggested that what he is asking is not much different than what the college is asking. John Millar stated that in reality that spot does not have enough parking and there is no magic we can wave the wand to get more parking. He has come up with a way to get somemore spots. The problem started with the group that were here twenty years ago when they allowed that to be put in. Steven explained the ordinance at that time required one parking l stall per unit because it was condominiums so they could get away with one parking stall per unit. (discussion) John Millar stated that this happened twenty years ago now we need to find a solution to solve the problem. Stephen pointed out that in the interim they have had plenty of opportunities to acquire more parking within 100 yards, but it would not have been as convient for them. John Watson pointed out that earlier this board felt we needed to back Joe in this decision. He also said he was sympathetic with a small business owner, but not with there argument. He does not know if it is the city's fault. (discussion). Mary Ann pointed out according to court cases that P&Z cannot make their decisions based solely upon alleged economic hardship. A motion was made by Jim Long that this board has determined that apartment should follow the Zoning Ordinance as written. Seconded by John Watson. All Aye (5.5 & 5.6) John Millar suggested that he could seek a variance if he wants to have these changes. He has that option. RE: PAVING AT TRI STATE TIRE - PARKING AT B.M.C. WEST TOPIC: (400,83,,,PAVING,TRI STATE TIRE,PARKING,B.M.C. WEST) Discussion on the paving at Tri State Tire and they are parking illegal at B.M.C. West. Mary Ann said she talked to Tri State Tire. Joe would check on them. ~~ r1 RE: ASHTON MEMORIAL FAMILY RENEWAL CENTER TOPIC: (400,84,,,ASHTON MEMORIAL FAMILY RENEWAL CENTER,AMDAHL) Discussion we approved the Chemical Detox Center over by Cal Ranch in the old Amdahl building. Now we have had some escapees who took a car. The neighbors are now up in arms. That issue may come back across our table again. We got an opinion from the A.G.'s office that it was a hospital and as a hospital is allowed in our ordinance in H.B.D. Joe stated if it is a lock up facility the building does not comply with the U.B.C. Stephen stated that these kids escaped through a window. John Watson and Ted discussed that there are buildings like this all over in different cities next to residential zones and they are not locked. You can walk in and out of them. (discussion) Ted asked if the Cal Ranch addition was approved, because they are building? Discussion on the bike path next to the river and right-a-way next to the subdivision. John Millar stated that at the last meeting the group decided to have one work meeting a month and one meeting for the public. He did not think we would always be able to do that because there are issues that come up that need a decision. Meeting adjourned. •