HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES FEBRUARY 28, 1996~~
DATE: (022896) •
Planning & Zoning
2/28/96
7:00 P. M.
Present Were: Chairman: John Millar-arriving at 8:10 P. M.
Members: Eric Erickson-leaving at 8:00 P. M.
Mike Thueson
Roger Muir
Davawn Beattie
Jim Long
John Watson
Ted Whyte
City Clerk: Rose Bagley
Attorney: Stephen Zollinger
Engineer: Joe Laird
Council Members: Marsha Bjornn
Glen Pond
Because of the excused late arrival of John Millar, Glen Pond was asked
by the City Clerk to chair the meeting until John arrived.
A motion was made by Davawn Beattie and seconded by Ted Whyte to
approve the minutes. All aye.
RE: IDAHO OUTDOOR ADVERTISING REQUEST FOR A C.U.P. FOR SIGNS
TOPIC: (400,64,,,C.U.P.,IDAHO OUTDOOR ADVERTISING,SIGNS)
Request for Conditional Use Permit by Idaho Outdoor Advertising: Bob
Gagon, representing Idaho Outdoor Advertising was at the meeting. They
had made a deal with the Railroad to put a couple of signs on their
property. Under the guidelines of the Sign Ordinance, there are two
things one is the signs cannot exceed building height for that
location. The tallest building in the area (just North of 7th South)
would put the signs pretty low. Their signs are 12 feet by 24 feet and
they typically put them 14 feet above the ground to the bottom of the
sign. If we complied with the ordinance that would bring the sign to 9
feet above the ground to the bottom of the sign. He and Joe looked at
it and did not think it was a good thing because of the farm implement
dealer next to it. The other aspect in the ordinance is it allows only
one sign per property. In a typical situation that would make sense,
but this is a unique situation with the Railroad having a lot of
property a long narrow strip that goes right through town and then
their signs would be about 600 feet apart. The State of Idaho's
ordinance for putting signs on highways, require that the signs be at
least 500 feet apart. They would like a conditional use permit on
those two issues. One of the signs would be 175 feet north of 7th
South and the other would be 875 feet north of 7th South. This is in
the Impact Zone. (discussion) A concern is not having a lot of bill
boards scattered along the entrance to the city. Another concern is
having the signs cluttered in such close proximity. If each business
across the street or in that area wants to put up a sign equal to that •
would be a real concern. The two issues is the height of the sign and
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!~ that they are putting two signs on the same piece of property. We need
to try to control what goes on in the future.
A motion was made by Jim Long and seconded by John Watson that we take
this issue to Public Hearing. All Aye
RE: PUBLIC HEARING - ANNEXATION OF WALKER PROPERTY APPROVED
TOPIC: (400,65,,,PUBLIC HEARINGS,WALKER PROPERTY,GREASE MONKEY,
JOHNSON*LEE)
7:30 P. M. Public Hearing to Annex the Walker Property just north of
Walmart to the city.
Stephen Zollinger explained where the property is located and how it is
situated. Glen explained to the board that a Public Hearing for this
annexation went before City Council and the minutes show that they
approved the annexation contingent upon Planning & Zoning approval at
this hearing. He then opened the hearing.
Jim asked if the Walkers agreed to future utilities and roads. Marsha
told him they would participate with their half.
Larry Hudson, with Mountain River Engineering was at the meeting to
explain. Johnsons are willing to dedicate their 30 feet of right-a-way
when they develope their property. He showed the plan for the first
e • phase of the 1200 foot strip. This will house the Grease Monkey and
Car Wash. Phase 1 is the column that is about 346 feet from the
highway. He explained the right-a-way where they will put city
utilities. Discussion on the road.
Stephen Zollinger stated that the Johnsons have sent a letter
indicating that they do intend to dedicate their half of the street.
Discussion on Dean Grover property. Stephen said he is nat willing tc
commit to anything until he sees how it is going to be developed and
sees the best way to use his property. Until such time that the other
half developer, it is a private drive and we can't control it. Once
the Johnsons start to develope their property, it becomes a 500 foot
cul-de-sac or dead end, with a potential growth out to the north. The
fire marshal has no problem with it once the other side gets developed
and we don't have any control over it until the other side is
developed. Until such time as there is further development north we
don't want them to dedicate the street. Mr Hudson stated that they
would build the street to city standards but the city will not own and
operate it until both sides are developed and it is a dedicated
street. There are two existing fire hydrants. (discussion)
A motion was made by Ted Whyte that we approve the Annexation of this
property subject to them putting in the utilities according to
restrictions and codes. That the developer put in the South half of
the street subject of city specifications. That the annexation is
conditioned on the Johnsons to the north putting in their half of the
• street subject to city specifications at some later day when the
Johnsons want to be annexed. (Joe stated that the Johnsons have agreed
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to the easement for the water line.) Motion seconded by John Watson. •
(discussion) All Voting Aye to Motion
Glen Pond Closed the Public Hearing.
RE: SITE PLAN FOR GREASE MONKEY APPROVED
TOPIC: (400,66,,,SITE PLANS,GREASE MONKEY)
A motion was made by Eric Erickson to approve the site plan for the
Grease Monkey as presented. Seconded by Roger Muir. All Aye
RE: MADISON FORD REMODEL PLANS APPROVED
TOPIC: (400,66,,,MADISON FORD,PLAN REVIEWS)
Madison Ford Remodel Plans presented by Paul Scorsbey from Forsgren
Associates. This is for an upgrade for a parking lot and landscaping.
Eric Erickson excused himself to leave but stated he had no opposition
to the plan.
(discussion and review of plan and entrance) A motion was made by
Davawn and seconded by Ted to approve the plan. All Aye
RE: NEW PARKING LOT AT RICKS COLLEGE DISCUSSED
TOPIC: (400,66,,,PARKING LOTS,RICKS COLLEGE,PLAN REVIEWS,3RD SOUTH,
CORNELL AVENUE)
Davawn declared a conflict and presented a plan for a parking lot for
Ricks College on the corner of Cornell and 3rd South which would need a
variance. They are proposing a two tear parking lot. The ,engineers
are proposing that they go down into a parking lot so they would not
need a retaining wall and the wall above that would be another parking
area. The top of the wall would not be any higher if they had one
single parking lot. Right now they are facing the big expense to build
the parking lot, that it would not cost much more to build two tears.
They have talked to the neighbors and they are all in favor of the
parking lot. They are proposing a fence. Glen Pond stated that
anytime you can increase the parking along there you need to look at
doing it. (discussion) Stephen Zollinger stated that this could go
under a variance because it is a uniquely situated in the city.
John Millar arrived at 8:10 P.M.
RE: DAY CARE PLANS EXPLAINED AND APPROVED
TOPIC: (400,66,,,DAY CARE CENTERS)
Joe presented the Day Care Plans and explained. He saw no problems
with the plan and the parking is adequate. A motion was made by Davawn
Beattie to accept the plan as drawn. Seconded by Mike Thueson. All Aye
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RE: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROPOSAL FROM RANAE MCGEE DISCUSSED
TOPIC: (400,67,,,COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,MCGEE*RANAE)
A discussion on the Comprehensive Plan proposal from RaNae Mc Gee. The
board felt that RaNae is very competent. (discussion) A motion was
made by Jim Long and seconded by John Watson that we proceed to
negotiate with her to develope the cost and time schedule and that we
ask her if possible to work with Terri to use what she has already
done. Terri can do some of the work under a grant. Seconded by John
Watson. All Aye John Millar asked Rose to call her and have her come
to a meeting to discuss negotiations.
John Millar felt we should not discuss arterials at this time with the
absence of Richard Smith. He wanted to be present to discuss the
arterials.
Discussion on the Sign Ordinance.
RE: PAVING AT PARK PLACE APARTMENTS DISCUSSED
TOPIC: (400,67,,,PARK PLACE APARTMENTS,PAVING)
The board discussed the Park Place paving and asked that the City
Council review it to see what is going to be done.
Meeting adjourned.