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• DATE: (020895)
Planning & Zoning
2/8/95
7:00 P. M.
Present: Chairman: John Millar
Members: Richard Smith
Marsha Bjornn
Eric Erickson
Brad Archibald
Mary Ann Mounts
Davawn Beattie
Jim Long
John Watson
City Clerk: Rose Bagley
Attorney: J. D. Hancock
Engineer: Joe Laird
City Councilman: Bruce Sutherland
A motion was made by Mary Ann Mounts and seconded by Davawn Beattie to
approve the minutes of 12/14/94. All Aye
A motion was made by John Watson and seconded by Marsha Bjornn to
approve the minutes of 1/5/95. All Aye
~ A motion was made by Davawn Beattie and seconded by Mary Ann Mounts to
~.• approve the minutes of 1/11/95. All Aye
A motion was made by Richard Smith and seconded by Marsha Bjornn to
approve the minutes of 1/15/95. All Aye
RE: CHANGES MADE TO IMPACT ZONE
TOPIC: (300,157,,,IMPACT ZONE)
The first item on the agenda is to try to get our Impact Zone Ordinance
to where we can recommend it to be approved by the city and county. We
have had several changes to the map.
1. We had a request for the Muir property to be changed from Ag 1 to
Ag 2.
2. The property owned by Squires north of Artco, Mr Squires called John
and told him he would like it to go Industrial now rather than Ag 1.
The only problem is there is a house sitting right on the Salem
Highway. Do we want to zone the property with the house Rural
Residential? Mr Squires called from Seattle. Bud Squires lives
in the house. There is no problem in leaving it this way, because he
will come in under a Grandfather Clause. It does put him as a non
conforming use, and possibly might cause problems for refinance.
Richard felt we should put the whole thing under Industrial.
3. Jack Jeppesen- Wants his property changed to Rural Residential. His
property is south of the Moody Road. Frank Stevens has property
next to it, he usually has five or six cows on his property. It
• was felt it all should be Rural Residential. The minutes will show
Frank Stevens has had cattle on that property. (check with Bart
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Stevens, Rose talked to Bart and he felt it was okay.) •
4. Erickson's- their property is on both sides of U.S. 20 they want
it to be changed from Ag l to Highway Business District.. They are
bordered on the East by Airport Road and on the West with Mother
Hibbard's. There are two homes on the property. Rose stated she
had talked to Leesa Frame owner of Kerbs Family Partnership
property South across the Freeway and they wanted it recorded that
they have some cattle on their property which is zoned H.B.D.
Everything West of the Freeway will be zoned H.B.D.
Richard said he put the Sugar City language in the ordinance.
Brad stated he had a couple of people ask him about arterial roads. If
they put houses in they will have a lot more burden to put a road in
than if they go around the corner and go off a different road. You are
putting more burden on people because they are on an Arterial road.
They wondered why they would have to take on all the cost themselves.
Richard stated the reason they are complaining is they want to take a
county asset and utilize it for their own benefit. That is what caused
the problem on Millhollow road, is because a developer came in and took
the county asset and used it for his benefit. Brad stated that they are
saying they will have to pay another $100,000 because of the road.
John stated the county can say they are not going to allow anymore
access to any county road except for access roads.
Discussion on Ruth Smith's property. John stated that she will
financially benefit from a development, why should the tax payers have
to pay for it?
A motion was made by Jim Long to accept this map as now changed.
Seconded by Davawn Beattie. All Aye
Eric- Is the Barney Dairy road adequate to cover the needs of the
road. John told him it was Rural Residential. Does it protect that
road? No. There is a drainage problem on the Barney Dairy Road.
Richard asked what date we would give the map. February 15, because
that is when the City Council will accept it.
The board asked if we were ahead of the salvage yard? Rose told them
they had been in talking about it but had not got a permit. If we
adopt the ordinance next Monday and Wednesday and they have not
formally submitted a plan and a permit prior to that time they can't
get a permit. Joe said they had talked to him about putting some
buildings on the yard for their junk car business. Joe asked how the
board could not give them a change in zoning when there is Highway
Commercial on both sides of them. Richard told him it would be light
Industrial rather than Highway Commercial.
John said there was one item at the Hearing, what roads have we
designated as primary roads. Richard stated we need a separate
ordinance, in the city and the county designating these primary roads.
Joe said he had a hard time saying Millhollow would be a major
arterial, he did not think there was enough left on the road that you
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could do anything with. John felt the same .about the Barney Dairy
Road. Richard said he does not use Millhollow for his trucks, but all
the fertilizer trucks go up and down that road. The board wondered
what could be done.
Richard went through the ordinance to make the changes. There are
minor changes. Going through chapter 10. One change in Chapter 6.
Bruce stated it had taken three years. He had watched a dramatic
change of the whole county on zoning. This body can take the credit
for it. Marsha stated that Jerry and Richard can take the most
credit.
RE: MOTION PASSED TO RECOMMEND IMPACT ZONE, CHAPTER 10 & CHANGES TO
CHAPTER 6 TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
TOPIC: (300,159,,,IMPACT ZONE,CITY COUNCIL,COUNTY COMMISSIONERS)
A motion was made by Richard Smith to recommend to the County
Commissioners and City Council to adopt Chapter 10 of the Proposed
Zoning Ordinance and adopt the amendments of Chapter 6 with the
revisions stated tonight. Seconded by Jim Long. All Aye
RE: WORK STARTED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
TOPIC: (300,159,,,COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,FUTURE ACQUISITION MAP,GREEN BELT)
John stated that next we need to start working on the Comprehensive
Plan.
Richard state there is a provision in the Code that allows the city to
develope what is called a "Future Acquisition Map". The Future
Acquisition Map says that the Planning & Zoning can designate on a map
of the Impact Zone where the roads are going to be, where the schools
are going to be, where sidewalks are going to be, where green belts are
going to be and set them up in the "Future Acquisition Map". It would
be a Comprehensive Plan map. This says that before a property owner,
that owns that ground, can sell it to someone else they have to give
first option to the city to buy it for that reason. It would be filed
for public record.
Eric asked how it would be policed? Richard said it would show up on
the chain of title. (discussion) The county could do it outside the
Impact Zone. If the city cannot buy the property, then that piece of
property is no longer in the "Future Acquisition Map" as a valid part
of the future Acquisition. The city really needs to look at it,
because it could be a cost that all of a sudden hits them. This
statute is also available to a school district..
Eric said he was concerned about it. If someone wants to sell some
property today, will he have to put it off until it comes before
Planning & Zoning or the City Council or what ever and they act on it
30 days down the road and then they sign off on it. Richard said the
statute speaks in terms of 60 days. Eric asked if they could fowl up a
sale for 60 days? Richard told him yes. Eric felt that was not
right. (discussion Richard explained) The city would have to meet the
price that is offered. The Future Acquisition Map becomes a matter of
record and gets in the chain of title of all the land.
Jim asked about the Green Belt along the river? It could be on the
Future Acquisition map unless an easement is granted for it.
This is a concept that we are looking into. There will be Public
Hearings and notices. In the last 20 years everyone has built homes
and encroached where the city and county thought the roads were going
to go. John Millar stated that if someone comes in and wants to build
a house, there isn't much we can do, but if they want to put a
subdivision in, we can require them to aline the streets up. Discussion
11th South. We need to redo our Comprehensive Plan.
Discussion on letter received from Steve Hart (copy attached and given
to City Council) Richard said someone needs to respond to this letter.
RE: DISCUSSION OF RESOLUTION 95.01 - STANDARDS & SPECS FOR STREETS,
WATER, SEWER, IN SUBDIVISIONS
TOPIC: (300,160,,,RESOLUTION,SUBDIVISIONS,IMPACT ZONE,SIDEWALKS,WATER,
SEWER,SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE)
Resolution 95-1- Adopting standards and specifications for minimum
Standard Drawings & Specifications for streets, water and sewer in
subdivisions. This has been drafted by Joe in conjunction with the City
Council. Joe stated that we were establishing these within the city, •
but if there is a subdivision within the area of Impact that would some
day be within the city he felt we should try to have these same
standards in the subdivisions within the area of Impact, so we thought
we should bring it to Planning & Zoning.
Brad asked, if in the Resolution it stated it would be in affect in the
area of Impact Zone? He understood that anything changed in the Impact
Zone would go back to Public Hearing with the Commissioners. Richard
stated that it goes back to this body. John said that is why it is
here. Richard if a resolution does not require a public hearing in
order to be passed in the Impact Zone, it comes back to this body and
is approved then it has to be adopted by the city and the county.
(discussion} John Millar stated that this should apply for lots less
than one acre. Richard stated if we did that and put that the Rexburg
Subdivision Ordinance should apply in the area of City Impact to lots
one acre or less, then the city has the ability to adopt this
resolutions and tie it to the subdivision ordinance and then it would
be applicable. In Rural Residential we made lots between one and five
acres and we didn't require them to put in curbs and gutters and
required some sort of drainage and gave them some animal provisions.
Eric asked if they wanted to be annexed would they have to put in curb
and gutter and sidewalks if this is adopted. He was told because they
are part of the Impact Zone, what ever they are doing right now you
won't have to change if they don't get annexed. Eric said all the
houses where he lives would not be annexed because the people would not
want to spend the money to bring it up to standards. He asked if there
are any other subdivisions that would be affected? Rexburg Heights
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'~ would be affected. John Watson said he felt good about this Resolution
because it specifically nails down and protects the utilities in terms
of storm drainage, water and sewer. Richard said he agreed, he is
sensitive about existing subdivisions that want to come into the city.
John Millar said the city would also have the authority to change this
a little if they felt there was not advantage for some of the
regulations, such as curb and gutter.
A motion was made by Richard Smith to apply the Resolution to
everything in the city of Rexburg irrespective of the Subdivision
Ordinance and apply it to all subdivisions that comply with the
Subdivision Ordinance, and recommend to the city council to pass it.
Seconded by Davawn Beattie. All Aye
RE: DISCUSSION OF BUSINESS PARK (SIDEWALKS?)
TOPIC: (300,161,,,BUSINESS PARK,SIDEWALKS,SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE,
M.E.D.C.O.)
John Millar stated that he had been asked by the mayor to talk to
Planning & Zoning about the Business Park that Rexburg is doing.
According to the Subdivision Ordinance, it is required to have
sidewalks. Is it any benefit to have sidewalks in the Business Park.
The board asked if it was platted? They felt they should see the
plat. The sidewalks would be within an Industrial development.
Richard asked what kind of business would be in the Park? John told
him right now Farm Bureau was building. The board felt that
E~_ politically they did not think the city could stand up and say they
didn't want to put sidewalks in. John said the city isn't requesting
to not have sidewalks, M.E.D.C.O. is making the request. The board
asked is this a Business Park or an Industrial Park? John said it was
business and light industrial. The question was asked if they don't
have to put in sidewalks, are they setting a precedence that other
people don't have to put in a sidewalk? Richard stated there is little
foot traffic in an Industrial Park, however in a Business Park where
Farm Bureau is being built and where a Day Care Center will be built,
there will be foot traffic and need a sidewalk. John Watson felt we
need to have a drawing in front of us. You could have a building a
quarter of a mile away and you know there won't be foot traffic to it,
but you know some of the lots will sell off and they will put curb and
gutter in as they go. He felt that any building built out there within
the limits of their property, needs curb and gutter and sidewalk to
identify their parking. Jim stated that because there are members
representing the city on the M.E.D.C.O. board they should know they
need sidewalk.
Eric felt if there is walking in the Business Park, they need
sidewalk. You can't tell other people they have to have sidewalks and
not put them in the Business Park. It would make a nicer development.
(discussion) We need to see a plat.
John Watson said he had gone to the Hospital Board about sidewalks and
they have said because of what they know is happening else where in the
community and there is a lack of enforcement, they don't want to put
the sidewalk in. John Watson told them he had sat in the Planning &
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Zoning meetings and he felt it in the best interest of the community to
put the sidewalk in and the hospital should set the example in the
community and put the sidewalk in. He has that sold. Now look what
this will do to him if the city does not put the sidewalk in. The
board felt maybe they could wait until they sell each lot.
RE: PARAPET WALLS
TOPIC: (300,162,,,PARAPET WALLS,EARTHQUAKES,MAIN STREET)
John Watson discussed some parapet walls we have in this city that are
very hazardous. If we had a minor Earth Quake, those walls would come
down. Is there a safety process? There are several on Main Street.
Subway is one example.
We will discuss the Sign Ordinance at the next meeting.
Meeting adjourned.
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February 7, 1995
Rexburg City Council Members
Rexburg Planning & Zoning Members
Madison County Commissioners
City of Rexburg
PO Box 280
Rexburg, ID 83440
Re: Comments on Impact Zone Proposal
I want to continue to express my concerns for the safety of all people who live on
Millhollow Drive. I would like to see the following additions put into the Impact Zone
proposal before it is passed:
1) A stop sign at 350 S. (city limits) and Millhollow to force all truck traffic
coming down off the farms to come to a complete stop before descending
down Millhollow, which dead ends at the High School. Mayor Boyle
promised a sign would be put in two years ago. This will also allow for a
brake check test on the potato trucks before they begin their descent. (I
have enclosed a copy of a newspaper article addressing this issue and
my 6/17/93 letter to Councilman Bruce Sutherland, who was on the Traffic
Safety Council at that time and I have received no response to my letter.)
2) Propose an alternate route for all farm -to -market vehicles on the far east
side of the hollow (approximately 1 mile east of 2nd East). Keep
Millhollow a residential street and instead focus on the future by
developing 7th or 11 th South to connect with the new farm -to -market road
running down the east side of the hollow. Then protect this new route
from residential encroachment with zoning.
3) Totally eliminate the possibility of another truck crashing into the Madison
High School coming down Millhollow.
4) Remove Millhollow as a major arterial road in the Impact Zone. I would
hate to see a major arterial road funneled into a residential street with
trucks and other vehicles entering the city at higher rates of speed into a
heavily populated residential area.
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February 7, 1995
5) Sidewalks on at least the west side of Millhollow and all subdivisions
leading to schools so our children don't have to walk in the street to get to
school.
I also sent a letter to Councilman Jim Flamm per his request to voice my concerns and
solutions to make Millhollow safer. He acknowledged the letter but I have never
received any written response to any of my letters to date. I trust your pledge to
consider all written and oral testimony. I am not against planning and zoning, but do
wish to voice my opinion where it comes to the safety of the residents of Rexburg and
particularly my children and Millhollow.
Sincerely,
Steven J. Hart
285 Millhollow
Rexburg, ID 83440
208-356-3716(w)
208-356-3370 (h)
ConCe' MS resurfacing
about city truck traffic
Concerns have resurfaced about But the council took no action on
truck traffic on Mill Hollow Road in the recommendation.
Rexburg. Though once a major farm -to -
Madison School District Trustee market arterial, the street now is
Gary Summers, speaking for the lined with homes.
School Board and as a citizen, has Boyle suggested Sutherland and
requested that the city once again .the committee review the issue and
consider banning truck traffic on their notes and report back to the
the road because of the hazards council.
such traffic presents to Madison In other business, Boyle ap-
High School and the neighborhood. pointed Dave Payne of the Madison
The issue has been discussed off County Parks Department to sit on
and on for several years since a the city Tree Commission.
loaded potato truck cashed into The commission will help as the
several cars in the south high city applies for a Community
school parking lot. Forest Grant through the Depart -
Mayor Nile Boyle brought it up ment of Lands to pay for 500 trees
ata Rexburain on g City Council meet ng. fortheit city nt Park.
within
Councilman Bruce Sutherland the city and make recommenda-
told the council the Traffic Safety do s about planting more.
Council had made a recommenda- Boyle also appointed Joan Cichos
tion that the city ban truck traffic of Rexburg to sit on the city -county
on the residential street, the city's Golf Board. She succeeds Larry
narrowest. Burns whose term ends.
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STEVEN J. HART
285 Millhollow Drive
Rexburg, ID 83440
June 7, 1993
Councilman Bruce Sutherland
Traffic Safety Council
City of Rexburg
P.O. Box 280
Rexburg, ID 83440
Dear Bruce:
After living on Millhollow for about a year I would like to express my opinion. I am
petrified when I see those tall fertilizer and heavy potato trucks go up and down in front of
my home. I cannot imagine a more dangerous or hazardous situation than a narrow road
with lots of children playing and tall trucks with no visibility and heavy trucks with no ability
to stop in time. The pickups that exceed the speed limit (25 MPH) usually do so early in
the morning 'or late at night when workers are in a hurry to get home, at least my five
children are inside the house at these times.
I keep a file on all articles, meetings, etc. on Millhollow. Attached is a copy of a recent
article where you stated that the "Traffic Safety Council recommended a ban on all truck
traffic." I am not an advocate on bans, but I am an advocate on enforcing safety rules and
regulations. The Mayor asked you to review the situation and report back. Could you
please share with me your report back to the Mayor? You understand the concern pazents
ign at the street end just to slow dowr
three safety measures for 1 block of
I know the trucks need to get to the farms and have a right to do so, but to route them up
and down a 6% grade with no runaway truck turnout and through a residential area on a
narrow street with no sidewalks with children playing is another accident in waiting.
We need to pursue an alternate route on the other side (east side) of Millhollow that can
be established and zoned as to avoid this from occurring again. I have talked to several
farmers who agree and know Millhollow has been lost as a farm-to-market/major arterial
road and some such as Keith Cornelison no longer use it since their truck crashed into the
high school. The liability insurance is too costly.
As residential areas expand without proper planning it and can force change to farm-to-
market/major arterial routes. As cities grow, safety becomes a major factor in redirecting
heavy industrial traffic out around residential areas, not through.
Bruce Sutherland Page two June 7, 1993
I did agree with putting in curb, gutters, sidewalks and in widening the road to 35 feet as
has been done down below Second South to the High School, but only after the drainage
problem had been properly addressed. I did not agree with Mr. Millar's suggestion to
reconstruct the entire road, as it is a good road, just needs to be widened. It was an extra
unnecessary cost to the L.I.D. and I think the mayor would agree. I also do not believe that
the widening alone would solve the safety problem but would short-term help until a new
route can be established to carry the farm trucks to market on a major arterial. The term
'farm -to -market' has no 'legal' meaning, it is interpreted as a 'major arterial.'
Please keep at least the idea of planning a new farm-to-market/major artenai route alive
in your meetings. I have attended several of the Impact Zone Meetings trying to keep alive
the East Millhollow route as a viable future farm-to-market/major arterial road. It would
tie in a road 1 mile east of Second East to provide a back exit to traffic from the Wal-Mart
development. Also, in the short-term, please resurrect your safety recommendations to put_
in a stop sign at 350 South to allow trucks and pickups a chance to slow to a complete stop
after coming down off the farms. They sometimes get in a hurray. This would remind them
to proceed with caution.
I would like to pay for yellow safety 'Slow --Children at Play' signs to put below the two
speed limit signs on Millhollow in front of my home and the stop sign at 350 South, if it is
installed, if you would let me know how much they cost and I will even put them up.
I am writing as a concerned parent, as you can read, and my agenda is not to hurt farming
in any way, but I also do not want my children hurt in any way if it can be avoided. So we
must compromise in all things and try our best.
Thank you for taking the time to read my letter. I hope to hear from you and your
recommendations to restore safety to Millhollow.
Sincerely,
Steven J. Hart
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STEVEN J. HART
285 Millhollow Drive
Rexburg, ID 83440
August 24, 1993
Councilman Jim Flamm
419 Morgan Drive
Rexburg, ID 83440
Dear Jim:
Per our discussion on Millhollow, I am enclosing a letter from the subdivider to Mayor
Boyle along with a copy of the original Millhollow subdivision plat with the words "no curb
and gutter so that run-off does not build up."
I have my own set of conditions I feel need to be addressed before anything should or can
be done on Millhollow.
1. Safety must be improved:
a. Widening the street, if cars are allowed to park, will do just the
onnosite and create a real safety hazard that now does not exist. The
street now has no parking and you can safely see up and down the
street when crossing.
b. A stop sign, as the Mayor promised, needs to be installed at 350 S. and
Millhollow. This will bring all traffic to a complete stop before
heading down the hill (the speed limit also drops to 25 miles per hour
at this point). More random radar and speed enforcement needs to be
done (25 miles per hour).
C. Sidewalks at least on one side of the street. Now that the hospital
parking lot has a sidewalk (west side of Millhollow), you can think of
extending on un. Most of the property is in backyards on the west side
of Millhollow and may be hard to obtain from owners. This will allow
students, joggers, walkers a place to do so in safety.
d. Widen Shoshone and eliminate the one way street and close the access
road to Millhollow or widen Shoshone and turn Millhollow into it and
close off part of Millhollow. Either method will add safety to the
intersection at 2nd South and Millhollow.
e. Eliminate the possibility of a truck crashing into the high school again.
Consider a ban on all trucks going down the hill. The grade is too
severe to not have a run -away truck lane.
Jim Flamm Page two August 24, 1993
2. No curb and gutters unless the city can address the drainage problem. We d4
not need curb and gutters just for the sake of having them. Right now no one
parks on Millhollow and we do not have a run-off problem. The problem is
safety, speeders and heavy trucks on a 6% grade that dead ends at our high
school are dangerous to all the residents and their children. Millhollow is
now a residential street. Children use it to walk and ride bikes to both
Lincoln and Madison High.
3. Write off Millhollow as a major arterial on the county impact zone map. Why
have a freeway go into a residential road? Focus on developing 11th South
and a farm -to -market road one mile east of Second East that would not only
provide a back door to Walmart, but the east side of Millhollow is not as
steep and can be protected as a major arterial/ farm -to -market well into the
future with proper impact zoning and planning. Eleventh South could join
this north/south road and eventually a second needed bridge across the Teton
could be built. I feel and have always pushed this as the best plan. We need
to give the farmers a safe route that this time can be protected.
At the 1991 LID meetings a lot of these points were discussed. I was personally
disappointed in Mr. Millar's trying to force a reconstruction of Millhollow on us. The road,
after all these years, has held up admirably. Besides, the City annexed the street including
the 25'x 100' access streets and passed inspection on them when it accepted the subdivision.
Costs to repair or replace these are legally not the residents' but the city's. Am I not
correct? I have attended two impact zone meetings and talked to Jerry Jeppsen on my
views on Millhollow not being designated as a major arterial from 350 South to Pole Line
Road. It does not make sense as it runs into residential property at the city limit plus
residential building has occurred on Millhollow outside city limits in the impact zone.
Anyway, take my thoughts for what you feel they are worth. I have a file and have educated
myself not only on this issue but all the issues the City faces and I am much more
sympathetic with your positions and decisions you have to make in best protecting the
serving our community. I am seeking only what is best for my children, neighbors and
preserving a community safe neighborhood.
Sincerely,
Steven J. Hart
356-3716 (W)
356-3370 (H)