HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES JUNE 09, 19946
DATE: (060994)
Planning & Zoning Work Meeting
6/09/94
7:00 P. M.
Those Present: Chairman: John Millar
Members: Richard Smith
Davawn Beattie
Jerry Jeppesen
John Watson
Jeff Walters
Mary Ann Mounts
Jim Long
Marsha Bjornn
City Clerk: Rose Bagley
Attorney: J. D. Hancock
Engineer: Joe Laird
RE: APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE FOR JUNE WICKSTROM, TRAILER HOUSE, 75 S
5TH WEST
TOPIC: (300,49,,,VARIANCES,TRAILERS,5TH WEST)
Application for a variance for June Wickstrom 75 South 5th West. We
have two situations, one is it is too close to the property line and
the other is the trailer sets about 6 feet out on the city
right-a-way. This body does not have authority to grant a variance for
the trailer to set out in the city right-a-way, that will have to go
before city council.
Doug Wickstrom, son of Mrs Wickstrom, explained the situation. The
trailer is already in position where it is now. The main reason we put
it there is, his mother is 74 and enjoys seeing the view and the kids
at the school out the window. By putting the trailer there, she has a
good view of everything. Being inside the fence, we thought we were in
good shape. We are just about the same distance from the street as Marg
Farrer's trailer which is on the other side. We didn't question it
because other trailers in that court are as close as ours. If we do
have to move it again it will be a financial hardship. It will cost
about $1500 to move it. We would like to get a variance. It is 4 feet
inside the fence that has been there for probably 20 years. It is in a
trailer court and they had Granet Beardall's permission to put it that
way. He would not need a building permit to put the trailer in the
trailer court. John Millar stated that whole roll of trailers in the
trailer court is in violation with their setbacks. This trailer is
clear off the property. (copy of a letter from Joe Laird) Jim Long
felt it was too bad it had gone this far without someway to check it
before it was put in, however it does not require a building permit so
it would not be checked by the city. John Millar stated that obviously
the trailer court knew the trailer was going in and it should be their
responsibility to see that it was on their property with the correct
setback, so they should have some responsibility.
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John Millar stated that this issue will need to be referred to the City •
Council, because we cannot give them a variance for use of a public
right-a-way.
RE: IMPACT ZONE DISCUSSED - MOTION PASSED TO CHANGE BOUNDARIES ON THE
IMPACT ZONE MAP
TOPIC: (300,50,,,IMPACT ZONE)
John Millar stated that one issue he did not think we covered at the
last meeting was the area inside the golf course. They have requested
to be zoned R1. The sub division has been preliminarily platted there
and they want to stay R1. It is owned by three different parties and
it is tied up with foreclosure with one of the owners.
Sakotas property, we need to make a decision and move on with it, so
they know and we know what our position is. At the last meeting we
asked Steve Zollinger to meet with the Sakotas, Munns and Muirs and
report back.
Richard attended the meeting-with Steve and made a report. They met
with Sakotas, Lee Munns and the Archibalds. We talked about the
problem about boundaries that Sakotas had problems with and we conveyed
to them the feelings of this body regarding the difference in opinion
between the Sakotas and the members of this body. They talked about
the abandonment clauses we had discussed a year. and half ago. We
explained how it would deal with livestock and made it clear to the
Archibalds and Munns, because they did not understand that but they
understand that now. Sakotas position is still just as strong as it
was in the meeting we had with them. Towards the end of the meeting
Steve and Richard was advised to leave and the Sakotas, Munns, and
Archibalds had a private meeting. Steve had a prior commitment and
they did not ever convene. When they left the meeting it was very
clear that Sakotas did not want to be included in the Impact Zone at
a11. Lee Munns was not prepared to say at that time whether he wanted
to be in or out and he did not think Archibalds gave an indication.
They told Richard that they had to think about the abandonment clause
because they had not understood it as this body is proposing it. He
had not heard back from the Archibalds or the Munns. They had a long
conversation with Roger Muir at the county planning meeting and he made
it very clear that he wanted to be included down the line north of the
cemetery all the way down the cemetery road including his house.
Jerry Jeppesen made a motion that all the property to the Freeway and
continue on up Salem Road to the intersection U. S. 20 follow U. S. 20
back around to the Golf Course and back to intercept the existing
boundary be included in the Impact Area. He then discussed that at
this point he could see no reason for any legitimate reason for any of
the parties to be out of the Impact Area. Motion seconded by Jim Long.
Richard stated he would agree with that 100. He asked Jerry if this
was something he thought the commissioners would agree with? Jerry
stated he did not feel that the commissioners would agree with anything •
we propose. This area is an area that will develope and as an access
to the City of Rexburg it should be included.
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Richard agreed with Jerry and stated the map we have now was agreed to
by the three county commissioners and they said they would accept those
boundaries. The only reason he had agreed to draw the boundaries back
was because of the input from the county. Jerry stated the issue at
that point was the number of cattle and that is not an issue anymore.
The reason that original boundary was decided on has been alleviated
and been compromised and is in such affect that it is not a debatable
point anymore, so there is no reason for that property not to be
included anymore.
Richard agreed with the boundaries and questioned if we would ever get
a consensus out of the county commissioners to go with that. There is
a good chance they have backed off from the map they originally said
was okay.
Jerry stated that we are here to make a legitimate decision and to have
as little impact on the people in the Impact Area as possible. At this
point he did not see any terrible impact on the people in the Impact
Area and he lives in the Impact Area. After the education process, we
have. changed things so they comply with the uses that are happening in
the Impact Area and this is not detrimental to any of those uses until
someone decided to change their use. If the contention is we don't
want the Impact Zone because we want to change our use, that is not a
legitimate reason to be out.
All Aye to motion Jerry Made except .Marsha who abstained.
Pole Line Road- Mary Ann made a motion to modify our boundary to
include the South side of Pole Line Road from U.S. 20 to to the S. E.
corner of Section 32. Seconded by Davawn Beattie. A11 Aye
Richard stated that in light of the fact that we sent notices to
everyone in the Impact Zone, prior to the next hearing we review the
people in the expanded area that we have not included originally.
Richard stated that we need to watch what we are doing and be careful.
Part of the concern that the area was too big was that we were not
really dealing with Impact Area, we were trying to protect County
Arterials and that is not the purpose of an Impact Zone to protect
county Arterials. West of the freeway over the Hibbard Road south of
where we have it, that is quite a distance out.
A motion was made by Jim Long that no change be made along the Hibbard
Road from the map as constituted from our Public Hearing. Seconded by
Richard Smith. All Aye except Marsha Bjornn voting nay and John
Watson voting nay, Mary Ann Mounts voting nay, Motion carried.
John Millar stated that we can review it annually. He said he would
revise the map to show our modifications for the next meeting. At that
meeting we need to take a vote if that is where we want to be and send
it to City Council. We have gone to the river which is the obvious
boundary on the north, on the south we took the section line. This can
be reviewed every year.
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Richard suggested that we need to have Jerry go to the county
commissioners and try to seek their approval and tell them all the
input we have had and try to get their consensus again.
A motion was made by Jim Long that we include the area along Barney
Dairy Road from where it now is to Sugar City Cemetery road, North
boundary of the river, South boundary one quarter mile south of the
road. Motion dies for lack of a second.
A motion was made by Mary Ann Mounts to leave the boundary as it is on
the Barney Dairy road. Seconded by Jerry Jeppesen. All Aye except Jim
Long opposed.
A motion was made by Davawn Beattie to leave the Millhollow boundary as
it is, seconded by Mary Ann Mounts. All Aye
Jerry said he talked to Jeppesens and at this point he thought they
would want to come in, but lets wait until the next meeting. He would
like a letter of request first.
RE: DISCUSSION OF THE WALL BY BEEHIVE CREDIT UNION - 65 SOUTH CENTER
TOPIC: (300,52,,,BEEHIVE CREDIT UNION,BUFFER ZONES,SETBACKS)
The board discussed the wall that Beehive Credit Union has built. They
either need to cut it down or come in for a variance. It was
questioned why they were given a certificate of occupancy with the wall •
built out of compliance. The certificate was issued contingent upon
them either cutting it off or getting a variance.
The mayor has asked that we consider any areas around the city that we
feel that needs to be annexed.
RE: MOTION PASSED TO RECOMMEND ANNEXING ARGUS CLINGER PROPERTY IN
CREST HAVEN SUB DIVISION
TOPIC: (300,52,,,ANNEXATIONS,CLINGER*ARGUS,CRESTHAVEN SUB DIVISION)
A motion was made. by Jim Long that we recommend to the city council
that the Argus. Clinger property be annexed to the city. Seconded by
Marsha Bjornn. (discussion that he will have to pave the street to his
house and bring it up to city standards if he wants the city to
maintain it.) A11 Aye
RE: MOTION PASSED TO RECOMMEND ANNEXING NEW COLLEGE PROPERTY THAT WAS
PURCHASED FROM DE LOY WARD
TOPIC: {300,52,,,ANNEXATIONS,RICKS COLLEGE)
A motion was made by Richard Smith. and seconded by Jeff Walters that we
annex the new college property that was purchased from De Loy Ward.
All Aye except Davawn Beattie who abstained.
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RE: MOTION PASSED TO RECOMMEND ANNEXING WALTERS CONCRETE PROPERTY
TOPIC: (300,53,,,ANNEXATIONS,WALTERS READY MIX)
Discussion the Walters Concrete property. They are tearing up the city
streets with their trucks and are on city water and don't pay taxes. A
motion was. made by Jim Long to recommend to the city council that the
Walters Concrete property be annexed. All Aye except., Jeff Walters
abstained, Jerry Jeppesen voting nay.
We are going to annex the Village Green Trailer Court and a public
hearing will be at the meeting on July 13.
RE: DISCUSSION OF HENDERSON SUB DIVISION OFF OF 5TH WEST &
LANDSCAPING AT VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER
TOPIC: (300,53,,,PRELIMINARY PLATS,HENDERSON SUB DIVISION,5TH WEST,
LANDSCAPING,VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER)
The board questioned the property off 5th West that we had a
preliminary plat on, the Henderson Sub Division. The board questioned
why the Valley Medical Center did not comply with the landscaping
requirement and asked Joe to check on it.
RE: PLATTING OF PROPERTY
TOPIC: (300,53,,,PLATS}
• They discussed that plating of property should be done and a plat
approved before a purchase of property is made.
Meeting Adjourned.
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MAYOR
ROSE BAGLEY, CITY CLERK
RlCNARD NORNEA, TReASUReR
6 FINANCIAL OFFICER
May 25, 1994
Ms. Garnet Beardall
75 South 5th West
Rexburg, Idaho 83440
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P.O. BOX 280
12 NORTN CEN7ER STREET f
REXBURG,IDANO 83440
PNONE {208) 359.3020
FAX {ZOS) 359.3022
This letter is to advise you-that the yellow, double-wide ~ '
manufactured home (2 spaces south of your house) was installed
in such a manner that it violates the minimum building setback
requirements of the Zoning Code (Ordinance #725j and Ordinance
#548 regarding Mobile Home Courts.
Your Mobile Home Court is in a Medium .Density Residential
(MDRjZone. The Front Yard Building Setback in this zone (2dDRj
is 25 feet from the street right-of-way line. 5th West Street
has a 99 foot wide right-of-way; therefore, the right-of-way
line is 49.5 feet (1/2 of 99 feet] east of the centerline of the
street. The east back-of-curb line is 25 feet east of the
street centerline; therefore, the east right-of-way line is 24
1/2 feet east of the back-of-curb line. The Building Setback
Line is another 25 feet east of the right-of-way line. (Or 7.4
1//2' + 25' = 49 1/2 feet east of the back-of-curb line.j Under
the "Grandfather" clause of the Ordinance, a home could be
closer to the street than this if it so-existed at the time the
Zoning Ordinance was passed by the City Council. The
recently-placed, yellow home is actually out into the. street
right-of-way and as indicated violates Ordinance #725 and must
be moved.
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The Mobile Home Court Ordinance #548 Section 9E indicates:
E. Minimum space requirements between mobile home stands:
Z. End to End; fourteen feet (14')
2. Side to Side; twenty feet (20')
The distance between the newly placed, yellow home and the
existing home to the east ie leas that 20 feet. This puts it in
violation of Ordinance #548 also.
Please call me (359-3024) if you have any questions regarding
this matter.
Thank you.
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Joseph A. Laird, P.E.
City Engineer / Building Official
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AfCHARO HDRNER, TREASURER
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Ms. Garnet Beardall
75 South 5th Weat
Rexburg, Idaho 83440
Dear Ms. Beardall,
P.O. BOX 280
12 NORTH CENTER STREET
REXBUAG.IOAHO 8340
PHONE (208) 359.3D20
fAX (208) 359.3022
June 1, 2994
Reference is made to my previous letter of May 25, 1994
regarding the recently placed yellow, double wide, manufactured
home 2 spaces south of your house.
`' • As shown on the attached Figure 1, the subject house, as it is
presently positioned, extends 6 feet or more out into the public
Eitreet right-of-way. After talking with City Attorney, J.b.
Hancock, T find that the Planning & zoning Committee cannot
consider a "variance" for a house extending out into the street
right-of-way. The house simply cannot extend into the street
right-of-way; consequently, it will have to be moved from the
lot or rotated 90° and set parallel with the 5th West street
right-of-way as shown on the attached Figure 2.
Rotating the house so it is parallel with 5th West Street still
leaves it with setback problems, namely:
1. As previously indicated, the zoning Code requires a 25
foot setback (to the house eves) from the adjacent streets}.
However, if an existing home had a smaller setback at the time
the Zoning Code was adopted, it would be "grandfathered" in at
the closer distance. Measurements at the subject home site
indicate the previous home was approximately 6 feet east of the
street right-of-way {R.O.W.) line. (The street R.O.W. line is
24 1/2 feet east of the back-of-curb line.) Therefore, one
could argue that under the "grandfather" condition, a new home
the same size as the original one could be located 6 feet back
(east) of the R.O.W. line.
2. Similarly, the setback from the 1st South Street R.O.W:
line is also supposed to be 25 feet. Assuming you set the home
6' back from the 5th Weat Street R.O.W. and 8 feet back from the
Interior Street of the Mobile Home Court (as required by Section
9D of Ordinance #548 on mobile homes & mobile home courts), the
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home would be approximately 18 feet from the 1st South Street
R.O.W. line. (See Figure 2).
Measurements at the site indicate that the previous home was 22
feet from the 1st South Street R.O.W. line, while an even
earlier home may. have been around 9 feet from the R.O.W. line.
The adjacent home to the east is 17 feet from the R.O.W. line.
Other homes farther to the east are also closer that 25 feet
from the R.O.W. line.
Zoning Ordinance #725 - Section 4.9 - Exception to Setback
Requirements, states that:
"When fifty {50} percent or more of the lots on the same
side of the street have been built, all buildings erected,
established, or rebuilt shall be in conformity with the
averaged setback of such buildings."
Therefore, using the "grandfather" condition .and Section 4.9 -
Exceptions to Setback Requirements, one could argue that the 18
foot setback from the 1st South Street R.O.W. line was
satisfactory.
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3.A - Unfortunately, going from a single-wide to a
double-wide mobile home, puts the new home 17 feet from the
existing adjacent home to the east,~which is too close. Section
9 E.2 of Mobile Home Ordinance #548 states that homes must be at •
least 20 feet apart (side-to-aide)
3.B - Also, Section 8.3 - Change of Use of Zoning
Ordinance #725 states that:
"The nonconforming use of a building or land may not be
changed except to a conforming use, and where such change
is made, the use shall not thereafter be changed back to
a nonconforming use."
This home would be nonconforming on the west {6 feet vs. 25
feet setback from 5th West}; nonconforming on the south (18 feet
va. 25 feet setback from 1st South Street} and then adding a
new nonconformance on the east (17 feet vs. 20 feet required
between homes.)
3.G - Section 8.5 - Expansion or Enlargement states that:
"Land area of a nonconforming use shall not be increased by
an amount greater than fifteen percent (15~) of the acreage
occupied by the use on the effective date of this Ordinance.
The floor area of a building or structure occupied by a
nonconforming use shall not be increased or expanded by an
amount greater than fifteen percent (15~) of the occupied
floor area on the effective date of this Ordinance.
Going from a single-wide home to a double--wide home would expand
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the area of nonconforming use by more than the 15~ referenced in
this section of the Zoning Ordinance.
The above sets forth in some detail the items that the Planning
& Zoning Committee would be considering if you decide to take
this matter to them and ask for a "variance" to the setback
requirements in the Zoning Code and the Mobile Home spacing
requirements in the Mobile Home Ordinance.
If you decide you want to go to the Planning & Zoning Committee
for a variance, please contact City Clerk, Rose Bagley,
regarding getting on the agenda for their next meeting.
Very Truly ours,.,
Joseph A. Lairti,"-P~-E~:-~--- -
City Engineer / Building Official
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Doug Wickstrom
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Planning & Zoning Executive Session i
6/9/94
6:30 P. M.
Those Present: Chairman: John. Millar
Members: Richard Smith
Davawn Beattie
Jerry Jeppesen
John Watson
Jeff Walters
Mary Ann Mounts
Marsha Bjornn
Jim Long
City Clerk: Rose Bagley
Attorney: J. D. Hancock
Engineer: Joe Laird
Discussion about putting the Sakota Property in the Impact Zone. They
have apparently threatened a law suit if we leave them in. They have a
lawyer that says it is racial discrimination. Do we fight the battle
and leave them in or take them out? Marsha said he had talked to Doug
the next day after they met with Richard, Jerry and Steve and he felt
that it was a dictatorship and everything had been decided. All the
county commissioners are on their side and it did not matter what this
body decided, because the county commissioners would vote for what the
Sakotas wanted and against what the Planning Commission wanted. Jerry
stated that they asked him what he would do if he were County
Commissioner and he told them he would vote for them to be in the
Impact Zone. We talked for two hour and they discussed race
discrimination and he got up and left and they brought him back in. At
this point they don't care what we do, because they feel like the
commissioners will support them. It was decided to leave them in and
let the County Commissioners be the bad guys. Before we can act on
American Potato, we need it in writing or stick to the original
boundaries. The new Industrial Park will be right across from
Sakotas. The city will annex that park eventually. Jerry felt that we
should just move on with Sakotas and let them react the way they want
to react. J. D. stated that he was with the mayor when Mr Mc Kenna
from American Potato called the mayor and said they got word from
California and they want to be in the Impact Zone. Possible we need to
draft a letter to them and get thing in writing.
Davawn. stated. one of the reasons we are going ahead with this thing is
to get the county commissioners to move with it and get it done. Are
the county commissioners telling us that if we leave Sakotas in they
are not going to support this thing. Jerry said you have to let them
make the decision and they can't make that decision until we submit
what we have to City Council and then it goes to them. They are a long
ways from this point from making a decision. Right now they have final
veto power over a decision. Richard stated that the three county
commissioners and the city council have to agree on the map and the
ordinances.
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Richard stated that Sakotas think they have been drawn into the Impact
Zone because they are Oriental. It was agreed to leave Sakotas in the
Impact Zone.
Richard stated that we have until November 1 to come up with the map.
If it is not done by November 1, what happens is the City Council and
County Commissioners select three other people and they get together
and try to solve this thing. Total time frame is a period of 90 days.
They have 30 days to select three people and then they have 60 days to
go forward. If they stepped in and selected the three and started to
move on this very quickly, the existing commissioners could make a
decision prior to them leaving office.
A more prudent approach is that we go through the public hearings but
there is not unanimous consent by November 1,this body just stops for a
period of 30 days until we get new commissioners and then we move
forward. He is convinced talking to some of the possible new
commissioners, that once that body goes into effect in January, the
Impact Zone as we are proposing it probably will go through. We should
move forward as we are doing but if we have not accomplished it, we
need to just hold the reigns for 30 days or 60 days. His concern is if
either party initiates it and we go into this 90 day process, once the
90 days is over it will be turned over to District Court. He is
convinced that if these commissioners are a part of the city body that
it will not be accomplished in 90 days and we will end up in court.
There is a pretty good way to stay out of court and it will take time
to back off until we have some new commissioners. The deadline is
suppose to be October 1 and then you have an extra 30 days November 1,
1994 that you have to have the map and the ordinance has to be in by
January 1, 1995. Any discussion regarding the ordinance, we need to
make our proposal and move forward with it and if it is not acceptable
to the commissioners, they will probably not be able to do anything
about it, at least these commissioners won't. They will be dragging
their feet all the way.