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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES JUNE 9, 1993~~~ Planning & Zoning 6/9/93 7:30 P.M. Those Present: Chairman: John Millar Members: Davawn Beattie Richard Smith Dave Pincock Marsha Bjornn Mary Ann Mounts Jim Long Jerry Jeppesen City Clerk: Rose Bagley Councilman: Jim Flamm A motion was made by Dave Pincock and seconded by Marsha Bjornn to approve the minutes of 4/28/93. All Aye A motion was made by Jim Long and seconded by Richard Smith to approve the minutes of 5/27/93. All Aye RE: ZONE CHANGE FOR REX ERICKSON - 2ND WEST & 4-5TH SOUTH Rex Erickson was at the meeting to request a zone change from HDR to HBD. There is a piece of property that boarders him on the south that is currently zoned Residential. He would like to change it to HBD to use for his business. Rex asked about the requirements for off street parking, setbacks landscaping, and sidewalk requirements. John explained to him from the ordinance. Because of the steep grade the P & Z members stated they would stop by and look at it to see if it would be feasible to put in a sidewalk. A motion was made by Richard Smith and seconded by Mary Ann Mounts to hold a Public Hearing on June 30. All Aye RE: APPROVAL OF SITE PLAN FOR C & L BODY SHOP Site plan for C & L Body Shop was next on the agenda. Discussion on the 7 foot landscaped buffer. He felt the ordinance should be changed to allow a fence instead of the landscaping. John told him we would look at the ordinance to see about changing it. A motion was made by Davawn Beattie and seconded by Richard Smith to approve the site plan. All Aye. RE: FENCE FOR MATT GEDDES - 665 PARK STREET Matt Geddes 665 Park Street was at the meeting to inquire about building a fence. His property is at the end of the street next to the church house. He had a question where the right-a-way was on that street. John said he would look it up at his office. He asked if he could put a 6' fence on his property line to the front of his house. The board told him he could go ahead. He has two trees that he will move. He was instructed that he would need to be careful not to obstruct the clear site triangle, to obstruct the view of traffic. • • i~~ f • RE: FENCE FOR COLONIAL HOUSING - (4TH SOUTH OR VIKING) Denny Austed representing Colonal House was at the meeting to inquire about building a 6 foot high decorative wrought iron fence in the front of his buildings. It would be 12 to 14 feet from the curb and 4 feet from the sidewalk. You would be able to see through the fence. The fence would optically transparent. He was told if it was a see through fence it would be okay if it was transparent. RE: TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT ON DEE THUESON CAR WASH Bart Webster was at the meeting representing the Traffic Safety Committee to report on the safety for traffic going in and out of the proposed car wash for Dee Thueson. Their feeling was the same as the Planning & Zoning, there was no problem, except they would request the State to extend the turning lane to the south on Second East. The sheriff's parking needs to be changed for safety reasons. RE: IMPACT ZONE DISCUSSED The Impact Zone was discussed. Eric Erickson and Mary Ann Beck were at the meeting because of their concern about the Impact Zone. The time that was allotted to the County has expired. Richard told them the county is proceeding. John asked if we want to proceed and modify the Impact Zone or put a hold on it for a little longer. Jim Flamm stated r • that we need to establish a base line for all the things included in the Impact Zone. Some of the county committee had some concerns about the Impact Zone restricting Air Quality and Water Quality. The letter we wrote to the County said we would take no action for four months. TAe have a letter from the county telling what their plans are. Jim Long stated that we are taking giant steps forward in educating these people and they are recognizing the needs. Richard stated that he in some ways feels flustered at the committee because they are going slow. They agreed to do something immediately about the four issues, arterials, construction of residential sub divisions, and redevelopment just right out of the city limits. It was his opinion that the county would put together four ordinances to talk about these issues and then continue on the tough task of planning, which will take a year or two. If they will do something like that now and stop the shoddy sub division construction and then turning over the very poorly constructed roads to the county and then the county has to maintain and pay for the roads. If they will do that then we should be able to say we are going to do what we said in the letter and we are going to back off from the bounds of the Impact Zone, but his idea of backing off of the Impact Zone is the closer you come to the City of Rexburg, the tougher the ordinance gets. He could see an Impact Zone going 300 or 400 feet beyond the City limits of Rexburg and applying everyone of the ordinances in that area. We need to make an Impact Zone that is really meaningful, and one we really think this ordinance should apply to. • Jerry stated that Richard has felt we should bring in a Professional Planner, but he did not think they were ready for that, they don't have pgl ~~ enough of the basics. There will be a point they will be ready for a • Professional Planner and at that time we can bring one in, and things will speed up considerably. At the last meeting two of the most vocal people admitted that they would like to have a Professional Planner come. He felt they had taken a giant leap in the planning process. They have asked Sid Brown to have a Professional Planner come to the next meeting and address them. He said they would be willing to accept suggestions on who to invite. Richard said when we met with the commissioners two years ago they were prepared to spend $15,000 to hire a Professional Planner to come in. The commissioners at that time were Dell Barney, Reed Sommers, and Dale Walker. He felt that Dell was still committed to do that and probably Dave is committed to do that. Jerry was not too sure about Dave. Richard stated that the new statue states the City and County will work together in conjunction to develope the Impact Zone and if they fail to do that the city like any individual can say they failed to it and we are going to force the issue and the court will determine where the Impact Zone is and what ordinances will apply. Richard felt maybe we should send them another letter and tell them they are doing a good job but in ninety days we want to see a Sub Division Ordinance and Arterial Ordinance and and the other ordinances we have asked for and have those in place. At that time the Impact Zone we create will not be near as big as the one which was originally proposed. If they fail to do that we as a city feel it necessary to • protect our interest and our growth and we have to create an Impact Zone addressing sub divisions and arterials. John stated that any sub division within a mile of the boundaries of the city has to have city approval of the city under current statue. Jerry said someone needs to tell the County Commissioners that. They had discussed that in their meeting.. No one was reviewing sub division plats. John stated that the County Commissioners, the Health Department and the County Engineer has to sign the plat according to State statue. John recommended that we officially give them 90 days and in the mean time we work on more fine line boundary and what we are going to look at to define boundaries. There are natural boundaries. He suggested that we pass out maps and have everyone give their opinion. Eric Erickson- He was concerned and wants to get the Impact Zone done and they want to be in that Impact Zone. He lives in the sub division by the Rexburg Stake Center. Richard told him he needed to take it to the county. Richard felt we need to start now in drawing in the boundaries and be strict and put people in that want to be in. John stated we need. to proceed and if we need to extend the time we can. A motion was made by Richard Smith and seconded by Dave Pincock that we • proceed to review the Impact Zone and its boundaries and we all jg1~ • consider drawing the boundaries in and consider what ordinances should apply in the Impact Zone in light of the fact the county is so successfully approaching and taking steps toward county planning. (discussion) They are working on what we asked them to do, we did not say we wouldn't have any Impact Zone but that the Impact Zone should be smaller. John asked for a vote. All Aye Rose will send a copy of the Impact Zone Map to all the members. John said we will give the county 90 days and after that 90 days we will be ready to do an ordinance and take it to Public Hearing. The first Public Hearing will be 120 days. John asked when each of the members get a copy of the map that they give their interpretation of where it should be. Drive around and look at realistic boundaries and take a magic marker and color it in. The flood plain is a boundary, Highway 20 is a boundary, Ricks College is a boundary. Jerry suggested that they stop and talk to those individuals in those areas that you are considering in the Impact Area and ask them what their opinion is. There are a lot of people that want to be in. John told Eric that the county needs to know yes you want the Impact Zone and you want it now and from as many as you can get to come to the meeting. ~'• RE: DISCUSS SIGNS AT NEXT MEETING We will put signs on the agenda another time. REz BUFFER ZONE - SIDEWALKS Jim talked about the buffer zone and how important it is. Mary Ann thought a buffer and a fence is the answer in some places. Richard stated that on the car wash, he had to put in a 7 foot buffer and there is already a fence there, it would be behind the development and no one would see it and it would be a hassle for him to take care of it and in that case it does not make sense. It was felt we need to re-write it. Discussion on sidewalks and putting them in where there isn't any on either side, and requiring sidewalks. It was felt we need to start someplace. Jim felt we need a design review committee. The design review needs to be on a case by case basis. A discussion on the need for a new Master Plan. Meeting adjourned. •