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• Planning & Zoning
6/24/92
7:30 P. M.
Those Present: Chairman: John Millar Members: Davawn
Beattie
Dave Pincock
Marsha Bjornn
Jim Long
Scott Mortensen
Excused: Mary Ann Mounts
Representing the County: Richard Smith
Jerry Jeppesen
Councilman: Jim Flamm
City Clerk: Rose Bagley
A motion was made by Dave Pincock and seconded by Davawn Beattie to
approve the minutes. All Aye
RE: PLAT FOR MADISON MEMORIAL HOSPITAL PRESENTED AND ACCEPTED
John Watson presented a Plat for Madison Memorial Hospital. They had
discovered that it had never been platted. Mr Leavitt from
Harper-Leavitt Engineering was at the meeting to explain the plat.
They need this plat to clean up the deed. John Millar stated that it
appears it is more a record of survey than a sub division, just house
keeping basically. Nothing is changing. John Watson said they mainly
want to define where the property lines are. A motion was made by
Scott Mortensen and seconded by Dave Pincock to accept the plat as
presented. All Aye
RE: A DISCUSSION ON AGRICULTURAL ZONES
John Millar said they had talked about having two agricultural zones,
one in the city and one in the impact zone. The county stated that if
it is agricultural, it will be used for agriculture and not commercial
or industrial. They had discussed taking the impact area and
determining the existing uses and putting together a map similar to the
one Ranae did for us. Then establish a zoning map for .that area.
Richard stated that in discussing it with the commissioners and the
members of the committee, he thought the concern was where we would
draw the line between agricultural and residential, and designate what
constitutes agricultural and what constitutes residential. Marsha
suggested a residential-agricultural zone. She said they had that in
Ammon. John said we need to define if a sub division is in the impact
zone, if they would fall under city requirements. Do we want to
develop rural residential zones without curb and gutter. If we do that
in ten years from now the city will grow around it and it will be an
area that is not compatible. Jim Long questioned if Barney Dairy Road
keeps developing will it need to be sub divided.John stated that the
state law states if it is divided into five lots it will have to be
sub divided. The city ordinance requires it be sub divided if it is
divided into three lots. Jim Flamm stated that we need to protect
those people who moved out of the city and are on small lots but moved
there so they could have animals. Richard stated that if you
established a residential zone it would not have the same regulations
as the city. There would be Commercial and Agricultural zones. Anyone
who wanted to build a sub division would be subject to sub division
regulations. Anyone who wanted to build a home on a five acre parcel
would fall within the agriculture zone. John said five acre parcels
are allowed without sub dividing. Richard stated that if you start
putting homes in too close you will run into problems with septic
tanks, so there needs to be some provision made for small lot size.
John said one thing the commissioners wanted to protect was the
frontage along farm to market roads. Richard said that anyone that
develops property should have to provide streets, curb and gutters and
utilities. The commissioners wanted to establish somekind of a master
plan and set some rules. John said his feeling was that the county
wanted to zone everything as it is right now. If someone comes in and
wants to put in a sub division then they will have to come in and have
a zone changed. A question was do we want to develop a rural
residential sub division ordinance. A discussion that five acres lots
be allowed and if they want small one acre lots then they need to come
with a plan. John said we would need to develop in the ordinance if
they are a reasonable distance from the city whether they would have to
hook onto the city sewer or not. Running the line would be the
developer's expense. All developments in the impact would not be
required to hook onto the sewer, we would need to set up the
guidelines. (discussion) Richard stated that we need to have enough
rules that they need to come to the P & Z, or City Council or County
Commissior_ers to tell them what they are going to do. John said there
are areas contiguous to the city that we need to restrict to regular
sub division requirements.
RE: MARY ANN MOUNTS APPOINTED TO DRAW UP A MAP OF THE IMPACT ZONE
It was suggested that we have someone draw up a map of the impact zone
showing the existing use. it was suggested that Mary Ann Mounts would
be qualified to do this. A motion was made by Scott Mortensen and
seconded by Jim Long to contact Mary Ann Mounts to hire her to draw a
map showing the existing use of the property in the Impact Zone. The
fee will be left up to the Mayor and Council. All Aye
John said it was decided that any farm related residence that existed
would just be part of the farm. Richard suggested that in Fremont
County it stated on their deed that this property is in an agricultural
area and you are acknowledging that there will be noise, dust etc.
What this board does in the impact area will really set a tone.
Pat Schess, 77 West 1st South was at the meeting requesting to put a
fence along the side of her property and across the front. She was
told it would be allowed if it was three feet high. It would have to
be one foot behind the sidewalk.
RE: SOME DISCUSSION ON SIDEWALKS, CURB AND GUTTER (BLAINE SHAW)
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The city sub division ordinance requires that curb, gutter and
sidewalks be installed on a sub division. We have not done that on
some. John discussed the one that Blaine Shaw is doing on 5th South
2nd West. Now he has 100 feet of frontage and eventually he will have
500 or 600 feet of frontage, so he was told by the Mayor right now that
he does not have to put the 100 feet of curb gutter and sidewalk. We
are getting more and more of it, where is the line drawn. In the sub
division ordinance there is a provision that allows them up to two
years to put it in if they post a bond for 110 of the cost of the
improvements. Jim Long stated that if you look at Woodruff there are
problems because it wasn't done when the building were built. John
stated that for example the Walker sub division was built on a county
road. The sub division ordinance requires that curb, gutter and
sidewalk be put in and the road widened to that curb and gutter. Jim
Long asked if Blaine Shaw understood that he had to put in curb and
gutter. John said he understands that when he builds the next phase he
will have to put curb and gutter in for the whole thing. Dave Pincock
said the ordinance states if they don't put it in when they start the
development they have to post the bond. John said he and the mayor had
told Blaine he could put in the curb and gutter when he did the next
phase.
A motion was made by Dave Pincock and seconded by Jim Long that we
follow the ordinance and require sidewalks, curb and gutter on new sub
divisions. All Aye.
i Scott Mortensen left at 8:30 P. M.
RE: PUBLIC HEARING FOR A VARIANCE FOR CARL THURGOOD
8:30 P. M. Public Hearing for a variance for Carl Thurgood to allow a
garage to be constructed. on the property line on the West and North
aides of the lot owned by Carl Thurgood at the property located at 165
East 1st South. (copy on file).
Jim Long stated that he was not at the last meeting. When the property
was all in one ownership, the foundation was laid. Eph Willmore owned
the property and was going to build a garage and go farther to the west
but there was a maple tree there and Jim had talked him into leaving
the tree. John said it appears that it is a retaining wall and not a
foundation.
Carl Thurgood stated that he had talked to Liz Willmore, who affirmed
that Eph Willmore was going to build a garage there previously.
Mr Thurgood presented a Drip Line easement from Autumn Arber. (on file)
Joe Romney -53 South Millhollow. He owns the property on the West of
the easement and has no objection.
There is also a petition which was submitted by Carl Thurgood of
• property owners not objecting. (on file)
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John said the Planning & Zoning board grants the variance and it does
not go before the city council.
A motion was made by Dave Pincock and seconded by Jim Long to grant the
variance. All Aye.
Carl Thurgood questioned in the beginning he had tried to go with a
continuance. The mayor and John Millar had come over to look at it and
saw the rebar. He wondered why they still have to go through the
variance. John said they did not have all the facts until tonight.
All we can do is go with the facts we have. The rebar could have been
put in to put up a fence. Marsha said there was to many questions to
allow it without a variance. The board told him if property owners
change, a variance would allow for title insurance. The board also has
to be consistent in all decisions. This would protect all parties
involved.
RE: A REVISED FINAL PLAT FOR THE WALKER SUB DIVISION
John Millar showed a revised final plat for the Walker sub division.
He had a conflict, but there would be no decision made tonight. The
plat is done but has not been staked out and the final plat cannot be
approved until it is staked. The final plat would be ready for review
in two weeks. Discussion on curb, gutter and sidewalk on Technology
Way. Jim Flamm was ask to check on an LID for curb, gutter and sidewalk
on that street.
The property East of 3rd East, South of the river, North of the canal,
when it was annexed it was annexed as commercial. When the re-zoning
process with our new ordinance was done last year, it was zoned to
Industrial. That was not the intent of the board. A petition from the
Walker family was presented for a re-zone for a change in the zoning to
H.B.D. A motion was made by Jim Long and seconded by Marsha Bjornn to
go through the process to re-zone the property to H.B.D. All Aye
Meeting adjourned.
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EASEMENT
This is an agreement between Autumn Arbor Townhouse
Association, 44 South 200 East, city of Rexburg, Madison County,
Idaho (Grantor) and Carl J and Suzanne R. Thurgood, 165 East 100
South, city of Rexburg, Madison County, Idaho (Grantee) granting an
easement for an overhang on a garage being erected on the northeast
corner of Grantee's property.
Whereas:
1:' Grantor owns real property in the city of Rexburg, Madison
County, Idaho, described as follows:
Commencing at the Northwest corner of Lot 4, Block 37 of the
city of Rexburg, Madison County, Idaho, as per the recorded
plat thereof, and running thence South 255 feet, thence East
77.25 feet, thence South 75 feet, thence East 30 feet, thence
Nort.r; 8v feet, thence East 57.75 feet, thence North ~s~ feet,
thence East 165 feet, thence North l65 feet, thence West 330
feet to the point of beginning.
2. Grantee owns real property in the city of Rexburg, Madison
County, Idaho, (adjacent to Grantor's property described in
paragraph "1" above) described as follows:
Commencing at a point 10 rods West of the Southeast corner of
Lot 4, Block 37, of the original Rexburg Townsite, as per the
;;~ recorded plat thereof, Madison County, Idaho, and running
thence North 80 feet, thence West 3 1!2 rods, thence South 80
feet, thence East 3 1/2 rods to the paint of beginning.
ALSO: Commencing at a point 154 feet West of the southeast
corner of Lot 4, Block 37, city of Rexburg, Madison County,
Idaho, and running thence North 82.5 feet, thence West 11
feet, thence South 82.5 feet, thence East 11 feet to the point
of beginning.
3. Grantee has obtained a variance from the Rexburg City
Planning and Zoning Board and the Rexburg City Council to build a
garage on the northwest corner of its property abutting Grantor's
property, and the eaves of said garage will overhang Grant.or's
property.
4. Grantor previously agreed in writing to the construction
of said garage by Grantee.
Now therefore, the parties agree as r~ollows:
5. For value received, uu^rantor hereby grants a perpetual
easement to Grantee to permit the eaves of Grantee's garage to
overhang, and to drip or drain rain, sncw, and other natural
materials upon Grantor's property, and to hold Grantee harmless
from any damage that might resul t f rom such natura ( runoff frcm
. said eaves.
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(Easement: Autumn Arbor, Thurgood)
6. This easement shall be perpetual and shall run with the'
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