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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES MAY 13, 1992C, Those Present: Chairman: Members: Planning & Zoning May 13, 1992 7:30 P. M. John Millar Mary Ann Mounts Scott Mortensen Jim Long Jeff Walters Davawn Beattie Dave Pincock Marsha Bjornn City Clerk: Attorney: Council Members: [] Rose Bagley J. D. Hancock Jim Flamm Farrell Young Nyle Fullmer Glen Pond Brad Liljenquist A motion was made by Dave Pincock and Seconded by Davawn Beattie to approve the minutes of April 22 with one correction. All Aye RE: ADDITION TO RETRIX Addition to Retrex - Mike Murphy, manager, was at the meeting to explain the request. He showed two sets of plans. The question is how far from the cinder block fence they was required to built. Currently there is just three feet from Alice Binghman's house and the new ordinance is twenty feet. John Millar explained that the Alice Bingham property is directly West of Retrex. When Mike Ferguson built Retrex, he wanted a piece of the property off the back of the Bingham property, so he bought that property and took the piece of property off the back and resold the rest of the property to Mrs Bingham. The property is zoned HBD back to where-his vacuum cleaners are behind the car wash even on a north south line. The situation we are into is this use is allowed in a HBD. In the ordinance 4.7 sub paragraph 2 - A2 screening requirements (see ordinance). Referring back to page 23 on permitted uses under footnote 2. (see ordinance) He thought we were getting some word play. The question we have is which one takes precedence. The cinder block wall shown on the drawing is 6 foot fence that is established and he has built three feet from the wall currently. Hie desire is to build three to five feet back from the wall with the new addition. The existing building goes straight back. They will take two bays of car wash and add on the new addition. There will be a fire wall. Mike Ferguson talked to Alice Bingham and • she would prefer that he build to the fence. One drawing showed building to the fence. The three foot area that is there now just blows full of garbage. John said it just creates a dead zone back ~~ Y l~ there and does not fit the intent of our ordinance. Mike said he would go back three feet if need be for the drip line or slant the roof so it would drain on his property. J. D. Hancock told them it can be read to be consistent referring to page 23 and section 4.7. Jim Long asked for an explanation of zone and use. John said the zone is defined by our map. John Millar referred to page 64 application for a Variance. Jim Long said the purpose of a set back is for open space for sound and all kinds of things. John said if you provide a twenty foot dead area back there you will have drug parties and whatever back there. He said we don't want to abandon the intent, but on this instance it would be to the best. Mary Ann said we need to decide if it violates the integrity of the zoning and she did not think it did. The idea behind it was that it would not bother a resident and in this case she would be bothered less. She felt that it would be an improvement. J. D. said they are taking up too much parking, they are using the parking of the church. Marsha Bjornn said the parking does need to be checked. Mary Ann said when they come up with the parking formula they take in to account the time of day of the use and because it is night they allow for them to use other parking. We will need a parking plan. Mike said over behind the old bowling alley there is parking and they might arrange to lease'some parking. Dave Pincock told him if _ they do that they would have to have a joint parking agreement. John Millar said after the discussion and the explanation from the attorney we are in a situation for a variance. One of the plans has the 20 foot set back and would be okay without a variance. RE: MOTION TN~,T RETRIX APPLY FOR A VARIANCE A motion was made by Mary Ann Mounts that they have to apply for a variance for anything that does not meet the requirements set in our ordinance and would require a parking plan on either plan. Seconded by Marsha Bjornn. All Aye. RE: CRAIGO'S PIZZA - WANTS TO BUILD APARTMENTS ABOVE & BY BUSINESS Craigo's Pizza 120 West 4th South requesting to put a apartment above the Pizza business and on adjoining property. Craig Roundy was at the meeting. He needed to put a roof on the building and the contractor suggesting putting apartments on the top of the building. It is zoned HBD, which does not allow residential in that zone even under a Conditional Use permit. It is surrounded by apartments. There was a question if there would be enough parking. He said there is a lot behind that would be available for parking. He was told he could apply for a variance but would have to have enough parking. It is compatible with the neighborhood. His business was there prior to our ordinance. He was told to draw up a plan and see if he had enough parking. Glen Pond said he would have to apply a zone change and choose between residential and business. RE: REQUEST FROM THE DEPT. OF HEALTH FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (ZONE CHANGE) ~~ • Department of Health - Terry Butikofer representing ECIPDA and Madison County was at the meeting to apply for a Conditional Use Permit to put the Madison County Health Department building on North 3rd East which is zoned MDR. The hospital wants to use the facility that they are in at the present time. They have received a Community Block Grant to assist with construction. ECIPDA is the administrators for the project. Glen Pond told them there is residential property all around and they would probably get opposition from the neighbors. They liked that location because of the safety for the children and parents coming and going for shots. They were told it was not a Conditional Use Permit it would require a Zone change. If there is local opposition it won't be changed. They were told that they had permission to pursue the zone change. RE: REPORT FROM IMPACT ZONE COMMITTEE John Millar reported that last Monday they met with the Impact Committee to come to an agreement on the Impact zone and how it would be governed. It appears it will come about and the proposal is that we would zone those areas under existing uses. They discussed whether they would have an unlimited agricultural zone. Anything in the farming business would be allowed under the agricultural zone. That is the way the county commissioners want it to go. There would basically be no restrictions on farming. He did make a statement to them that t ~ the city would probably want a separate agricultural zone that would allow only separate agricultural uses. There are only two parcels that we are looking at. We would want one that would prohibit the raising of livestock in that zone. We would probably have an Al and A2. Houses on existing farms would not be considered residential. They will be zoned along with the residential property. There was discussion of selling off of the county frontage and put somekind of requirements on that, so we don't have residential developments on all of our farm to market roads. If they request that they be zoned different than they are now that would be considered. (discussion) The way it is proposed is the county would have three members on the Planning & Zoning board. They would be regular members of the board except on issues dealing in the impact zone. Then those three members would vote and three members of our board that are city residents would vote. After it is approved it would go to the City Council for approval and then to the County Commissioners. This will develop a beginning point for zoning in the Impact area. Nyle Fullmer said the more we visit with the County and they find out about zoning, they find it is more help than hindrance. RE: PUBLIC HEARING: ARTERIAL ROADS - CHANGE TO COMPREHENSIVE MAP Public Hearing 8:30 P. M. Regarding a proposed amendment to abandon, alter, and/or redesignate certain primary arterials or portions thereof on the Rexburg Comprehensive Plan 2000, Map A. The purpose of the • hearing is not to make decisions and not to even discuss pro and cons of various alternatives but to present the proposed changes that we have to the master plan for arterial highways in town and to then ~~ obtain public input on some of the proposed alternatives or other . proposed alternatives that the public might have. John stated we are looking at several roads that are designated as urban alternatives collectors and can receive federal funding through the Federal Highway Administration. There are other funds available to develop the south arterial or other changes as deemed necessary. Dick Dyer from Forsgren Associates was at the meeting to give a presentation and answer questions. He did the study on the arterials in 1979. There are two objectives that need to be accomplished. (1) The first is to discuss potential changes to the Urban Area Federal Funded Highway map which agrees with the city Master Plan. (2) we would like to have a discussion of alternative locations for what had previously been termed as the South Rexburg Arterial. He then gave background. The Highway Bill that was passed last December and enacted the first of the year has entirely changed the picture of how the federal government helps to fund highway projects in the United States. The policy is to develop a national intramobile transportation system that is economically efficient, environmentally sound, provides the foundation for the nation to compete in the Global economy and move people and goods in an efficient manner. State and local governments are given more flexibility in determining their own transportation solutions. 155 billion dollars is to be spent in the United States in the next six years; of this Idaho will receive approximately 35 to 40 million per year for the next six years to help build highways in the state. The funding for Highway projects is not based on Functional Classification. Funding is available for the major roadways that we have. Idaho will receive a block grant from the federal government. The state will give that out for worthy projects based on those that classify under the Functional Classification. The map is to establish the Functional Classification of the streets in Rexburg. Each of the states will have to classify all of their roads. The state has sent us a map with what they are proposing. The council have recommended that there are things on the map that are out of date and things that need to be added. Mr Dyer explained the principal arterials, minor arterial, collector streets. Under the current plan it shows an extension of 2nd West that goes past Walter Concrete and up to connect by the Radio Station. The city feels that is not a viable alternative. In 1979 an alignment off of 11th and curves up to 9th South at 5th West and continue east over to Millhollow road. The city is now proposing between 5th West and Millhollow road be dropped from the map in favor of another alternative route. With the development on N 2nd East the city is looking as widening that area. It was thought that at the end of Barney Dairy Road to cross over the south fork of the river. The city is looking at deleting the 9th south corridor and looking at a 7th South corridor. The college have indicated that they would allow the 7th South to come across their property. At the near term the road would terminate at 2nd East. He discussed all alternate streets. • ~~3. ,' • He stated that having the middle school there might present a problem in planning a major arterial past there. We would have to depend on the old highway is we develop 7th south. The city would like to apply for funding and would like input from the public. John Calhoun - with the federal funding and talking about major roads that are not going anywhere. The road we have is good. I feel that the roads that exist need improvement. No need for the road. We don't have to get the money because it is there, it is still our money. Mr Dyer - this plan is for long term and we have a lot of traffic that needs to go out of town. We can get 80~ funding. President Steve Bennion from Ricks College gave a plan presentation. (copy attached) A question: Why not build an overpass across Viking Drive. President Bennion told him it was too expensive. Chuck Frost read a letter into the record from the Idaho Transportation Department in 1986. (attached) Gale Harding - His concern is why didn't we have this hearing six • months ago before the Middle School went in, because a lot of people z were led to believe that the Middle School would not have any problem with traffic other that the highway. If you are proposing a four lane highway on 7th South, you have two main arterials by a school yard. He believed we have to be concerned with the safety of the people, who will be turning in and out of the school. He wished someone from the School Board was at the meeting. A lot of people were led to believe 7th south would not be a major arterial so they voted for the school at that location. A question: Why are we not going on the proposed plan? The city council have checked the current needs and projected the future growth and tried to upgrade the assessment that was done. They felt that 7th South particularly where a portion of it has been constructed and the right-a-way is available would represent the better solution. The proposals have to be submitted to the State Highway Department by June 30th or they will stay as they are. Nyle Fullmer- just because we modify the master plan does not designate those roads will be put in. They are just proposed and funding is not assured. Funding might be five to six years away. A question: He felt that the roads are being constructed to accommodate the college. Why not develop Pole Line Road? • (comments were given that could not be picked up on the tape) 7 7 Bill Scouten- He lives on 7th south next the proposed Middle School and • has not heard that 7th south is the main arterial. He had heard that the county maintains the South Yellowstone Highway 191. He was told the city goes south of Taylor Chevrolet and the county maintains the road from there. He asked if the city would maintain a 4 lane road on the South Yellowstone Highway. Dick Dyer told him at the present that had not been planned. Mr Scouten asked what kind of traffic control would there be at that intersection? Once the corridor was established then a design function to accommodate traffic control would be designed. Mr Scouten stated that coming on to 11th South off the freeway and coming straight across to 2nd West would seem the logical route to him. This would move traffic quickly. Are we trying to accomplish with this street commuter traffic for the college or commuter traffic for workers? John told him that is an element that needs to be considered but it is for the traffic in and out of the city for residential traffic. Jim Long stated that the reason for the diagonal is the grade coming up the bench. Dick Dyer stated that federal standards for an arterial of this nature is to keep those grades down to the lower percentage. Bill Scouten - If you went clear to 2nd East the grade would be an impact. If you stop at 2nd West you would not have the steep grade. A question: Why not develop Pole Line Road? He was told Pole Line Road belongs to the county and they are having their own hearings. The city will have another Public Hearing Wednesday. Nyle Fuller - Some people feel 7th South is just for the college, but you need to realize people who access and need access to that Middle School have got to travel either 4th South or 2nd South which is taking it down to high traffic areas in the city because of Ricks College. 7th South would alleviate a lot of the traffic because of all the people that live on the east side of the city. A question: What kind of problems will you get into if you diagonal the road? Would you have to acquire a lot of property. Dick said there are two or three homes. The width would be 67' for four lanes with a center turn lane. It was stated that there are two ditches running down 7th South which would have to be covered. Would the bridge handle four lanes or would it have to be widened? He was told it would have to be widened. It was asked how much this project would cost. Total project would cost about two million per mile to build a road. It would be cheaper to use existing road if road is built stronger enough to handle the . traffic, but to uae the existing corridor would be an advantage. ~~ • A question if it would be cheaper to use Pole Line Road. John said Pole Line Road due to it's contour would be very expensive to develops to federal standards. Mary Ann Mounts - would your chances to get the federal money be inhibited if the road went past the school? Dick said it is a factor in the application process and would be a disadvantage. If this is not resolved by June 30th it will stay as it exists on the 9th South alignment. It means we won't be amending the plan. Nyle Fullmer said even if we approve this plan, it doesn't mean we will go out and start building roads. We need to get this taken care of so we will be eligible for the Federal Funding, regardless of where we build the roads. Scott Mortensen - The objective of the Planning & Zoning and City Council is to find the best route to move traffic in and out of the city for future growth. When it affects property, people will be upset. We need to see what is best for the city in 20 years from now when all the other growth has taken place and look at all the factors and say what will be the very best way we can build the road. What is the best for the city not just for me. • Dick Dyer explained the process. When a corridor is established and application is made and the project is entered into, the first step in the design process is the public participation process when we have public hearings. Tonight we are talking plus or minus 500 feet but then we will be talking we will be able to say where the center alignment will go. Jim Long stated that Congress has already determined that this money will be spent. So much of it will go to Idaho, so the conservative part of this group will say we should not spend this money. It has already been decided so if we don't use it who is going to use it. Nyle Fullmer- Do you want to take advantage of the tax dollars. We need 7th South. We need to try to establish the roads so we can take advantage of the money if it becomes available. Members of the audience argued against spending the,federal money. Jim Flamm stated that the process is we need to move traffic. A question was what is the time frame for the college's project, phase 1 and phase 2. President Bennion stated if the board approves it, we could have the two new buildings within two or three years. A question on a time frame if funding comes through on this road? Dick • said under this program if the project is accepted it would be a 6 year program. It would be built as money becomes available. The minimum would be 3 years. The competition for the money is great. ~~ Jim Flamm- There has been a master plan and we have the opportunity as • a community to reconsider the master plan. If the master plan is there and meets community approval then someone won't build a house where we are proposing a road. The planning has to be done. Gale Harding - there was a master plan 10 or 15 years ago, why can't we go with the plan. Nyle Fullmer said things have changed. 10 or 15 years ago we weren't going to build a middle school at that intersection. Gale said we need to know if that is going to be a main arterial. Nyle said that has been proposed. Gale said he had talked to Chris Mattock and he said he had sat in on a city council and it was decided that was not going to be a main arterial. Dick Dyer said he had been to a hearing with Chris Mattock when it was discussed and 7th South was discussed as an arterial. Scott Mortensen said that is why 9th South was selected at one time instead of 7th south was because the college owned the property. Now the college has changed their building plans 7th south seems a lot more logical. Discussion on the cost to do 9th south instead of 7th. 7th south would be a lower cost because it is already started. A comment that would just be another road to maintain. • Cliff Jaussi - Why bring more traffic onto 2nd East. President Bennion - If you come up 7th South a lot of traffic would then go in Center street to the college. If it came up 9th there would not be direct access to Center street and the college. John Millar closed the hearing. RE: REQUEST FROM DAVID MOOR~FOR CITY TO ABANDON THE PROPERTY NEXT TO HIS LOT David Moore was at the meeting. About one year ago Millhollow Sub division had a bike path down the middle. The council abandon this property on most of the lots back to the property owners. On the undeveloped lots this was not done. Mr Moore requests that the city abandon the property next to his lot. The piece of property is basically unattended and a weed patch. We are considering the same thing as was done before. A motion as made by Jim Long to recommend that we do the same thing with the property as they did with the upper part of the street that it be deeded to the property owners. Seconded by Scott Mortensen. All Aye RE: POLLING OF THE COMMITTEE ABOUT SOUTH ARTERIAL ROADS A discussion if we need a motion to amend the master plan. John Millar stated that we need a motion to approve the master plan. Jim Long and • Mary Ann are oppose to all the traffic going past the school. (discussion) ~~ • John stated that we need an unofficial polling of the feeling of the road from the board. Dave Pincock - Felt we should go off at 11th and diagonal to 7th. Jim Long - go off at 9th and diagonal to 7th. Marsha Bjornn - Go down 11th and diagonal to 7th. Scott Mortensen - we need the top part of 7th and 2nd East to 2nd Weat. We need to do something to get away from the school. We need 7th South as a through street. Jeff Walters - Go off on 9th or 11th to 7th south. Davawn - abstain. Mary Ann - Go with plan B and diagonal to 7th. John Millar - Go off 11th and diagonal to 2nd West and then to 7th South. Meeting adjourned • CJ ~~ r" ~. ~ RICKS COLLEGE MASTER PLAN AND RELATED STATEMENT ABOUT • REXBURG CITY LONGRANGE STREET DEVELOPMENT Steven D. Bennion May 13, 1992 Ricks College appreciates the opportunity to participate in this public hearing concerning the long-range development of streets in Rexburg. Since the number of students attending Ricks College is now approximately 50 percent of the population of Rexburg, we know we impact the community. We likewise know that the community impacts Ricks to a substantial degree as well. And so we readily recognize the importance of a cooperative approach to major developments for the city and for Ricks. During the past year Ricks has undertaken a very vigorous planning exercise to develop along-range master plan for our physical facilities and campus traffic. This exercise was prompted in part because of the vital college facility needs to meet the existing enrollment. It also was keenly felt that Ricks needed to look at foot and road traffzc issues that impact the campus and to plan as effectively for those needs as we possibly can. A summary of the major findings Follow: 1. Future campus growth in buildings and other space must of necessity occur at ~ the south part of campus since the north area is pretty well occupied with buildings. The south part of campus refers to the south side of Viking Drive, across the street from the Manwanng Center. 2. Ricks is principally a residential campus. About 90 percent of the student body lives away from home. Fourteen hundred (1,400). students live in college dormitories while about 5, 600 live in private apartments in the community--the vast majority within two or three blocks of the campus. 3. Only a small percentage of our students currently have a campus parking permit (approximately 18 percent). This alone demonstrates that students either don'-t-have cars or feel they can walk to and from classes and other activities on campus. It also underscores the need to keep heavily used classrooms and related buildings within relatively easy walking distance--the students' mode of travel. 4. Accordingly, all proposed new buildings Ricks is planning are planned to be constructed south of the Manrvaring Center across from Viking Drive. These include a new religion building and a new administration building. (The latter will free up the rest of the old library to be used for individual and group study space, for book storage, and related library needs.) Since all students are required to take a religion class, students will walk to and from the religion building often--about ten thousand students each day. Furthermore, with a new administration building and the existing LSA, Engineering and • Technology Building, and the Farm Mechanics and Auxiliary Buildings, the traffic flow across Viking Drive will increase dramatically--to the point that ~~ the college will have major safety concerns about its continued use as a through street. 5. Ricks College recognizes there is a vital need for a major east-west street to carry substantial numbers of vehicles every day. The college is also keenly aware that the new middle school being built on Seventh South across from Anderson Lumber will require better across-town access just as the growth of the community generates the need for a better east-west road in Rexburg. 6. During the past year Ricks has had two major presentations with its Board of Trustees concerning its college master plan and proposed new facilities. This plan has been given a positive review by the Board. Phase I facility requests are now under review by the Board. Phase II will develop at some future date. The major facility components of Phases I and II follow: Phase I • A new religion building south and slightly east of the Manwaring Center • A new administration building south of the Manwaring Center ~~ • Addition to the south side of the Snow Building Note: As the campus center moves further south and in order to have a safe, pedestrian accessible campus, Ricks is proposing that a new center quad be established between the Manwaring Center and the proposed religion and administration buildings. This will become the heart of the campus. A proposed activity center on current playing fields south of the Hart Building would also be readily accessible to the quad. This would necessitate limiting Viking Drive to a turnaround entry to campus on both the east and west sides so it would no longer be a through street. Phase II • A new activity center which would seat at least 10,000 people and be used for devotionals, special events, athletics, physical education, intramurals, multi-stake firesides, regional conferences, etc. This building would be located on current playing fields immediately south of the Hart Building and would also meet many • community needs such as the International Dance Festival, the "Messiah," etc. It too would be readily accessible to the proposed center quad. 2 .. ~ ~, 7. Ricks College would plan to develop ample new parking along iUith existing parking to be reasonably accessible to campus buildings but not place those • lots in the center of campus. All buildings would have service vehicle entrances available for college vehicle service, business stops, and drop-off areas. Recommendations: A. Ricks College endorses the development of Seventh South as a major east-west through street. B. For reasons outlined above, Ricks recommends that Viking Drive be closed off as a through street following the development of Seventh South because of the major shift of the college to the south--the only direction the college can conceivably move to accommodate its vital building needs. For both critical safety needs and a pleasant physical environment on the campus, the Seventh South bypass is recommended. C. Ricks College is recently authorized by action of its Board of Trustees to offer the land for the development of Seventh South (which it owns) to the City of Rexburg in exchange for Viking Drive. D. Long-term, Ricks would be supportive of another east-west through street which would be developed on the Eleventh South route. That street would • likely be developed on a much longer border of Ricks College property than Seventh South. Thank you for your consideration and for. the opportunity to share major points of our campus master plan which are impacted by the City of Rexburg's street development plans. • ., • ~ • DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY ANO SECURfTY CAMPUS POLICE FIRE AND SAFETY Thomas E. Leman, Oirecfor David C. Godfrey, Asst. Director December 1, 1986 Idaho Transportation Board John M. Ohman, Chairman P.O. Box 729 Boise, Id 83707 RICKS COLLEGE In response to a request from Mary Messer of Rexburg who is associated with residents concerned about the proposal to widen South Second East street in Rexburg the following information is provided. Ricks College is a private two year educational institution located in the City of Rexburg, Idaho. The college enrolls approximately 6800 students and employs 650 individuals as faculty, administration and staff, Approximately 2500 motor vehicles make use of .parking on or near the campus on a daily basis. The campus is bisected by Fourth South street which intersects with Second East. Second East runs along the east boundary of the campus> There. are approximately 200 street parking spaces on Fourth South and three major campus parking lots are accessed from this street. An estimated 1500 pedestrains cross Fourth South each day traveling to and from college facilities and housing units. There exists similar traffic volume on all streets surrounding Ricks College. This volume of foot and vehicular traffic presents a significant safety concern for both City and College safety personnel. In the past five years the Campus Police Department has investigated an approx- imate average of 100 traffic accidents each year in the immediate area of the campus. Approximately ninety of these traffic accidents have occurred on Fourth South including one pedestrian fatality and approximately eight other injury accidents. • ~~ Rexburg, Idaho 83440 /Telephone: Area Code 208-356-2448 December 1, 1986 John M. Ohman Page 2 • As Director of the Campus Police Department I would be very interested in evaluating the impact which the widening of Second East may or may not have on traffic flow in the area of the campus. If a study has been made which takes campus traffic volume into consideration I would be most interested in reviewing such information. I do not currently have knowledge of any such study and therefore cannot evaluate the potential impact this proposal may have on traffic safety in the, area of Ricks College. This letter is not intended to express support for nor opposition to the proposal to widen South Second East in Rexburg. It is intended to provide general traffic volume information about Ricks College and to solid information which may be available with respect to the impact this street widening proposal may have on Ricks College. Your consideration in this matter will be most appreciated. Respectfully, Thomas E. Leman, Director Campus Police TL/jr cc: Mack Shirley Brent Kinghorn Mary Messer - - - --- - --- -- . _ .. .. S s~