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11/28/90
Those present: Chairman: John Millar
Members: Dan Hess
Chuck Frost
Chris Mix- arriving at 7:45 P.M,
Mike Larson
Scott Mortensen- arriving at 8:00 P
Jim Long - Absent
Also Present: Glen Bean, Building Inspector
Glen Pond, Councilman
J. D. Hancock, Attorney
Rose Bagley, City Clerk
RE: APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
A motion was made by Dan Hess and seconded by Mary Ann Mounts to
approve the minutes. All Aye
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RE: DISCUSSION OF HOME $USINESSES AND A SPECIAL USE PERMIT RECOMMENDED
FOR A BEAUTY SHOP AT 655 PARR STREET
Janet Willmore was at the meeting to request putting a beauty shop at
655 Park Street. She would like to do this as a hobby type set up
\ rather than a business. (gave a handout of an outline, on file) She
would like to do it on a part time bases. She had taken a petition
around to the neighbors. The shop would be one chair for work part
time, and located in an existing room. It will follow state
regulations. She would not put any signs on the property, with the
exception of lettering on the mailbox. She would not make a parking
impact. John Millar told them this is zoned R1.
Mike Larson said he is concerned with putting a business in a R1 zone.
Chuck Frost stated that there had been a request to put a beauty shop
in the Ricks Wade Sub division and had opposition. Their concern was
that if you let one business in the neighborhood then someone else
wants to put one in. Glen Pond was concerned if there was any
restrictive covenants in that addition.
John Millar stated that the discussion the Planning & Zoning have had
on home businesses would allow this type of business, no employees
outside of the family, no signs and it would not create a parking
problem.
Home business was discussed. Re Nee Mc Gee discussed what they do in
Idaho Falls. She said they have five residential zones, and two of
those zones don't allow businesses.
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John Millar said as he saw it there are three options: (1) Allow them
to have a business under a business license as other low key businesses
do like a piano teacher. {2) Issue a limited commercial permit, or {3)
to deny it.
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• Chuck Frost stated that we have denied a number of these requests in
the past and if we are about to make a change in our ordinance, there
needs to be a chance for the council to have some input and for
citizens input. There are several citizens out there that will bear
bruises because we have denied them business licenses in a residential
zone in the past. In all fairness to the people that have been turned
down and we are moving in the direction of allowing home businesses we
need to give the citizens that have been turned down a chance.
John Millar recommended that we go the route of a Limited Commercial at
this time and hold a public hearing.
A motion was made by Chris Mix to table it for 30 days until we get
some definitions and recommendations. Glen Pond felt that would put a
burden on the Planning & Zoning and would not be fair to these people
to put them off for that long of time. Motion died for lack of a
second.
A motion was made by Mary Ann Mounts to recommend a Special Use
Permit. Seconded by Dan Hess. Those voting aye: Mike Larson, Dan
Hess, Mary Ann Mounts, Farrell Young, Those voting nay: Chuck Frost.
Chuck Frost said he thought that home businesses was something we would
see more of in the city. He did not feel we were ready to handle all
the home business requests on a case by case basis.
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RE: DENIAL OF A REQUEST TO KEEP A SINGLE WIDE TRAILER FOR RENTAL
PURPOSES
A request for a single wide trailer to remain on the property at 133
South 4th West for rental purposes. This trailer was owned by Leo
Weatherston and they was given permission to leave the trailer on that
property until the time of his death. Glen Pond gave the Planning &
Zoning the history of the removal of trailers from the city. A
committee was set up and worked on the issue on a case by case bases.
Senior citizens were allowed to keep their trailers on their property
until the time of their death. According to what we have done in the
past the trailer would not be allowed, A motion was made by Mary Ann
Mounts to recommend that we do not allow the trailer to remain on that
property and that it will have to be moved. Seconded by Mike Larson.
All Aye.
RE: DISCUSSION ON THE PROPERTY LINES OF THE HOUSE ON E 2ND N
Dan and Karen Peck was at the meeting. They have made an offer on a
house on East 2nd North. The property has two houses on it and the
property line goes down the driveway and along the side of a metal
building. They want to establish a new property line. The family
don't want to sell five feet of property along the building to
establish a five foot space between the property line and buildings.
The metal building is detached. The board told Mr Peck that the
~~~ property owners are the ones that need to request a variance. To sell
the property without a specified lot size and feet between the property
lines and building is against the city ordinance. They have to
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maintain the setbacks. Chuck Frost ask the city attorney if they sell ,
the property in violation to the city ordinance, does the city have
recourse. The city attorney said the city does have recourse.. Glen
Pond stated that before the zoning ordinance came out there was smaller
lots and the older house has been there for many years.
RE: DISCUSSION OF THE COTTAGE APARTMENTS
Next on the agenda is the parking at Cottage Apartments. Glen Bean
told them he now has 79 parking places and he needs 76 parking places.
The parking places are 9' x 16'. Gordon Tychsen checked it and says
they can get a fire truck in. Discussion under which ordinance the
parking would be under. The building permits were predated before the
ordinance was changed on the parking requirements. He has 215
students. Mr Bean said the parking looks okay. The board discussed
the location of the dumpster. A motion was made by by Dan Hess that
the parking be accepted but that he be required to move the dumpster
onto his property and off the city property. Seconded by Scott
Mortensen. All Aye.
RE: BUILDING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS
At the last meeting we had a discussion on plan reviews. We have a
proposal from George Klamp, with the building department in Idaho
Falls. They would charge a percent of the building permit fee listed
in the UBC. John Millar stated that could be a viable option. Mary
Ann Mounts stated that she thought we require a licensed contractor to
build multi family apartments.
The board felt that after a licensed architect or engineer draw plans
we still need a plan check. Re Nee. Mc Gee said that is required in
Idaho Falls. Chuck Frost stated that the college hire licensed
engineers and architects to draw plans and still do plan checks. Mike
Larson stated that Rexburg is behind times on building regulations and
need to step up.
A motion was made by Chris Mix to recommend that we maintain the
current requirement to require a licensed architect or engineer to draw
the plans and amend it to say that in addition to that we require a
plan check by Idaho Falls Building Department or someone else that
meets the planning board or council approval and amend the building
permit fees to those listed in the UBC. Seconded by Chuck Frost. All
Aye. Chuck stated that we should get an approved list of independent
people who do plan checks and that the person doing the plan check be
approved by the city prior to checking the plans. The plans should be
stamped with recommended notes. The plans would have to be checked by
someone independent from the architect or engineer that draws the
plans.
A motion was made by Chris Mix to amend her motion to have the city
council approve the list of plan checkers. Seconded by Chuck Frost.
All Aye.
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~.~ A motion was made by Mary Ann Mounts to recommend that a Licensed
Building Contractor be required to build multi family apartments
anything above a duplex and also commercial buildings. Seconded by
Chris Mix. All Aye.
A motion was made by Chuck Frost to recommend to the city council that
look into an ordinance licensing or bonding building contractors.
Seconded by Chris Mix. All Aye
The board decided to cancel the December 26 meeting.
RE: RE NEE MC GEE PASSED OUT NOTES ON NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS
Re Nee Mc Gee ask if we could schedule some work sessions in January.
It was decided that we would have a work meeting on January 9, at 7:00
P. M. No other business would be scheduled. She passed out notes on
the neighborhood meetings. She expressed her recommendations on the
number of zones and parking requirements on the downtown businesses.
Meeting adjourned.
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