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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES MARCH 28, 1990_` '~ Planning & Zoning 03/28/90 Members Present: Chairman: John Millar Members: Mike Larson Mary Ann Mounts Scott Mortensen Chuck Frost Chris Mix arrived at 7:50 P.M. Councilman: Glen Pond City Clerk: Rose Bagley Attorney: J. D. Hancock arrived at 9:45 J. D. Hancock and Dan Hess ask to be excused because they were attending a Scout banquet. Jim Long is out of town RE: APPRQVE MINUTES A motion was made by Mike Larson and seconded by Chuck Frost to approve the minutes. A11 Aye. RE: SU$DIVISION ':~ Greg Fullmer sub division- John Millar said the area in question was platted and filed in 1979. In order to make any changes the plat will have to be abandoned. Mrs Spaulding presented a sketch of the new plat as it would appear. The members discussed through streets on the plat. John said he went up and looked at the property. Shoshone if projected on up cannot go further south unless a home is moved. If 5th South was extended onto the East, it would run into Ruth and Lyle Smith's home. There is already a half road in front of Dee Sellers home, John said he would presume-that someday they would develop that road. That road could go around Ruth and Lyle Smiths home. Greg Fullmer called on a conference call. Chuck Frost said 5th South is a crucial issue in order to get people in and out of that neighborhood. There is no other through street. John Millar explained to Greg Fullmer that most of them had looked at the site and are looking at the sketches, and are discussing how it would affect traffic pattern in the area. They had discussed changing the cul de sacs to come in from the north heading south. John Millar told Greg it would help the flow of traffic if 5th South was extended through where the two cul de sacs go to the east, and then tie them together so 5th South could extend to the east, then tie Shoshone and 5th East into 5th South and take two or three cul de sacs off 5th South going toward the South. Chuck Frost suggested to eliminate 550 South. The problem that Greg said he had is he had already cut out about three lots, and by doing this he would have to cut out some more lots and it soon becomes so it isn't economical feasible. Mrs Spaulding ask if that would hold them up. John Millar told her we don't really have our preliminary submittal yet, it is very well defined in the Sub division ordinance. We are really in a concept phase. Richard Smith suggested that a better arterial further South would be better. John Millar told him that 4th ~Q South is called a collecter arterial. The major plan is for an arterial on 9th South. Richard said he farmed on Millhollow, and he is concerned about how many streets we are going to have going onto Millhollow. It is a dangerous situation right now, unless we shut it off to truck traffic. Richard suggested that as long as Millhollow is going to continue to be a major arterial into the city, that the fewer entries onto Millhollow the better off we will be. Some point in time truck traffic is going to have to stop on Millhollow. He said he would hope that they would do what every necessary to stop bringing this traffic into the residential areas. Chuck Frost said we were trying to design it so the residential areas have access to the major arterials. The flow of traffic was discussed further. Richard Smith suggested that if we bring 5th South all the way through that they do not bring it onto Millhollow, it would open it up to unnecessary traffic. Chuck Frost said the master plan shows 5th South ending at Shoshone and not extended to Millhollow. John Millar told Greg to summarize where we are, as he had mentioned before it is really more of a concept rather than a preliminary plat. There is mixed feeling whether it would be approved without 5th South being a through street. Discussion on changing the plat that has already been platted. First of all the city would have to agree to abandon the streets, they belong to the city. If the city agrees to abandon the streets, it starts over with the preliminary plat with the sub division procedures. Glen Pond explained that the City Council is waiting for a recommendation from the Planning & Zoning. The way it stands now if the streets were abandoned there would have to be a series of hearings. First Greg will have to arrange for the abandonment of the plat and the streets. In conjunction with that you would have to choose a preliminary plat and it would have to comply with the sub-division ordinance. Then it would have to come before the Planning & Zoning. Greg ask if they could pole the council. Glen Pond said he is sure the council would have to have public hearings. It will take a period of time and probably all summer at least two months. Richard Smith ask if Greg could get a feeling of the Planning & Zoning. John Millar - 5th South is a critical street; Chuck Frost- I agree 5th South is a critical street; Mary Ann Mounts- I don't know, she felt that Millhollow should not have anymore streets feeding into it; Mike Larson- I am not so concerned about that road going to Millhollow; Scott Mortensen- He did not think it was a critical street; Chris Mix it is a critical street.. It is a split issue. Greg said he would take this all into consideration and talk to his attorney about the abandonment of the plat. RE: NEW CHURCH PROPERTY Dean Ricks and Gene Palmer were at the meeting to discuss the location of the new church property. Part of the Ricks Palmer Sub Division has been developed. The church bought undeveloped property. Ricks & Palmer agreed to bring sewer and water to the location. Chuck Frost said if the church bought undeveloped ground they would have to put in the streets. Chuck Frost said it might be an advantage to develop the street. The city needs to say that we will require a road and if the the property isn't developed it would fall back to the church to build the roads. The Street on the West is an requirement. Glen Pond ask Gene Palmer if he would furnish him with a copy of the agreement. And ~~' the City Attorney will need to write a letter to the church telling them there would need to be a road put in. RE: HIGH COUNTRY POTATO IS MOVING High Country Potatoes are moving their plant out by Spuds. It will not be in the city limits, but it is in the impact area. They need to present the plans to the Planning & Zoning. Glen Pond suggested that we need to look into annexing it into the city if we extend the water and sewer lines out to them. RE: IDAHO FALL'S ORDINANCE John Millar said we talked about the Zoning Ordinance and we have a proposal from Re Nee Mc Gee. We also have a copy of the Zoning Ordinance from Idaho Falls. The Mayor's feeling is to retain Re Nee Mc Gee on an hourly basis and take Idaho Fall's Ordinance and cut it down to fit Rexburg. A motion was made by Mary Ann Mounts to retain Re Nee Mc Gee on this basis and have her meet the Planning & Zoning on a regular basis. Seconded by Mike Larson all aye. RE: ABSENCES BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD John Millar told the Planning & Zoning Board that the mayor had made a recommendation that this board be compensated for their time. He is hoping that this would spur a little better attendance. The board suggested that rather they are compensated or not, if there was three unexcused absences in a six months time by members of the board they should be released. A motion was made by Chris Mix that the attendance be monitored and those who do not attend and are not excused will be released from the board for three unexcused absences during a six month time. Seconded by Mary Ann Mounts. All Aye. RE: STEVE CLARK APARTMENTS The committee discussed the Steve Clark apartments. Glen Bean said there had been no progress since last fall. Glen had talked to him, but he doesn't seem to do anything. The city had received a letter from a attorney representing Greenbrier Apartments, saying they were going to take action if this is not taken care of. Mike Larson said last fall we were going to withhold his permit and not let students live in those apartments. Glen Pond said that was the parking and banisters and he met those requirements. Glen Bean said he doesn't even have enough parking for the existing students. John Millar said he could not occupy the new buildings until he finishes the upper parking lot. Greenbrier said he does not have enough room. Glen Pond said the understanding was the first story was suppose to be underground and it isn't. Glen Bean said according the building code that 80~ of his first floor has to be underground and it isn't. The members stated that a Stop Order should be put on the buildings until the requirements are met of the uniform building code and require him to get competent contractors in to work on it. Chuck Frost made a recommendation that he will be writing a letter telling him we would hire a constructional engineer to come in and look a the footings and at the Uniform building Code. It would cost $200 or $300 to get a constructional engineer. They also told Mr Bean that all problems and instructions to him from now on be made in writing. Chuck Frost made a motion to hire a constructional engineer to evaluate the construction of the building and put a stop order on the building until we get that recommendation. Seconded by Chris Mix. All Aye RE: HOUSE ON 128 WEBSTER Glen Bean told the members that there is a house on 128 Webster Avenue owned by James Change, which was partly destroyed by fire about a year ago and nothing has been done to repair it or tear it down. We have received a complaint that it is a nuisance. John Millar state that if it is 50~ destroyed it has to be torn down or the city can declare it a nuisance and tear it down and bill him. The members recommended that he be sent a legal notice by the City Attorney and just give him a period of time to do this. RE: BOWEN & HALL IMPROVEMENTS We received a letter from Bowen & Hall sending a letter of Insurance, they are moving ahead with their improvements. RE: NEW FLOOD PLANE MAP John Millar handed out the new Flood Plane Map. This was discussed. They felt there was no rhyme or reason to the map. John Millar would write them a letter outlining the areas that should not be in the flood zone. RE: MEETING ADJOURNED A motion was made by Chuck Frost and seconded By Chris Mix to adjourn. A11 Aye r ~