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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES OCTOBER 22, 1986-, -- a Planning & Zoning 10/22/86 7:30 A. M. Those Present: Chairman: Board Members: Councilman: City Clerlc: Chuck Frost Chuck Porter Gerald Taylor Glen Pond Rose Bagley A quorum was not present so the minutes of the past two meetings could not be read and approved. Steve Clark was at the meeting to .discuss the problems at his apartments at South 1st East. Chuck Frost listed some of the issues that were a problem. Parking was an issue. Concerns from Fire Department on Students parking on the streets. General clean up of the property. Garbage clean up. Completion of the job. being able to get back into the property. Chuck Porter ask him about the school bus that is parked up there. Steve C1_ark • said they had some building materials that they had left over from this project that we planned to use on final project, and we brought the bus to load all of those things in the bus and then it will go out to his house. Chuck Porter questioned him if he had done everyting he should,to meet the code. I3e said he had done what the inspectors had advised, and had been approved by the inspectors. .'T'here is a question on parking. Requirements are in the current zoning ordinance. Student housing requires 1 parking place for each two students up to and including 24, and then 1 parking space for each additional 3 students beyond 24. Steve said they have 112 students in the apartments. Subtract 24 from llZ, leaving 88 divided by 3, they would need approximately 42 parking spaces. Steve said they have had excess building materials back in the back of the whole project, while we were trying to get the front finished and that was not yet available for parking which__ we had projected for parking. They have been parking in the front section and had just got gravel and dirt in the other side so they could park in there, it is not completley functionable. He explained the parking and showed a plan. They counted the number of cars the girls have and. we have enough parking for them, but what is happening is boys pull in at night to visit girls and and park in the girls spots and the girls coming in late would park on the street. 4Je had a sign painted that said Resident Parking Only. We have requested the girls to stop parking on the street. On the 1st of November, our manager is assigning each of the girls a parking place. He will assign the 20 feet parking places to girls with small cars. Each spot will be numbered and each girl will have a number. It will leave 20 feet for the fire truck. Today the men hauled away the garbage and the wood from behind the house, tomorrow they will get the windows on and then we will finish leveling and haul in gravel, and open up the back area for parking, making 8 spaces available in the back. So counting the spaces we have in use and the other eight spaces, we will have 43 spaces. The driveway is 20 feet wide, it slants over from the house, but we filled in the whole length of the driveway with dirt and gravel, and have slant parking. We could currently hold ten or twelve more. cars. He stated that they would like to add another unit in front, but don`t have the financing. Gerald Taylor ask if they were still under construction?, He said they were almost done. He explained the parking for 8 additional spaces if they build another unit, and still maintain the 20 foot driveway. Glen Pond said the problem he has with what had been said so far is how they are going to control the parking for only compact cars? The zoning does not call for compact or standard size cars, it calls for a parking spot which would include a standard size car. dour are going to have students in Cher irregardless of whether they. are assigned place or not, and will you have the 20 foot. Steve said it would drop to 18 foot with a big car. How are you going to control what is parked in that spot. Glen said he has a problem with the cars sticking out two feet and not giving us the 20 feet, for a fire lane. Chuck Porter said he felt the same way, cars should be parked so the fire truck could get through at all times. If someone parks the car in the wrong place and the place burns down. You have got to have something that fits a little more universal. Chuck Porter ask if there was some parking lot standards, and if so he should keep to the standard regulations. Chuck said he had driven in the parking lot twice and it striked him as being an extremely crowded situation, and both times I had to back out because there was no place to turn around. Chuck Frost recommended that he get the standard requirement for parking lots and then try to design to it. If people do not have room to park, they will park on the street. You will then have some mad tenants and it will also have an impact on the neighborhood. They suggested that he drop a couple of the parking places and give more room to pull through the parking lot. Maurice & Argus Clinger who live next door were at the meeting. Maurice Clinger said she was the one who complained about the parking to begin with. She ask if they are suppose to provide parking for the boyfriends. The code does read that it should accommodate some visitors, Chuck Frost told here. Mr. Clark said that when they get the back finished there will be extra parking. Argus Clinger explained that his wife is the president of the DUP and has a lot of the older women call and say they need to bring things to you or talk to you but there is no parking in front of the house.. Most of the ladies are quite old and don't feel like walking a block or two. Gerald Taylor ask about the code f..~~x: paving the parking lots. Chuck Frost said it is required that the parking lots be paved. Steve Clark said they would get it paved, if they don't have time before cold weather they will do it first thing in the spring. Chuck Frost said before they go ahead with the other unit, he will have to bring in a plot plan showing the proposed final parking, and your arrangement. We need the dimensions on it to scale. Chuck Porter said he would feel much more comfortable is the plan was drawn to the engineering standard, rather than just fitting and juggling and doing the best we can. Requirements for space for parking lots for the cars and backing area-was discussed. Chuck Frost told him he would need to buy a garbage dumpster and provide a garbage area where trucks can get in and dump the garbage and keep the garbage cleaned up. Maurice Clinger said they had not been able to use the space in front of their home for 6 months. We couldn't mow or water or use our front yard. He was told that they need to get the construction cleaned up. Need to do some neighborhood relations, and be courtesy. Need to clean up the loose ends and have a finished look. L--' `:~ Success of the project will depend on good parking. Before the next unit is built you will have to have a plot plan. Mr Clark said they planned on purchasing the • Garner home and that will give them a lot of parking. Gerald Taylor said he would encourage them to black top the parking as soon as possible. Chuck Frost told the council that Diane Wilcox at 145 West lst North had requested to have the zoing changed from commercial to Residential. She can't sell her property. The group felt that unless the entire side of the street is changed, we could not just change that house. The trend in that area is for commercial. We will put it on the list to be considered when the zoning ordinance is adopted. Meeting adjourned • //o STATE OF IDAHO JOHN C. PORTER 12 NORTH CENTER ST. PHONE (208) 359-3020 mAVOa REXBURG. IDAHO 83440 ROSE BAGLEY, CLERK RIC4tARD HORNER. 'sa~rsuaEa October 15, 1986 Steve Clark Route ~~l Box 230A Rexburg, Idaho 83440 Dear Mr. Clark: Chuck Frost, Chairman of Planning & Zoning, Nile Brown, Building Inspector, and Gordon Tychsen, Fire Inspector • have recently inspected your parking area at your apartments on South lst East. Their recommendations were: (1) You must have a 20 foot Driveway which is kept clear at all times for a sire Lane; (2) You must warn your students that they can't park on the street or in your driveway. They also should not block any of the neighbor's driveways. On November 1 their cars will be towed away if they park on the street overnight. (3) You will not be allowed to build anymore apartments until you come to the Planning & Zoning with a Plot Plan and show adequate parking for your apartments. If you would like to discuss this further please attend the Planning & Zoning meeting on October 22, 19$6, at 7:30 P. M. • Sinc~rely, ~ ~`` ~ n C Porter, Mayor rb C~ • r 1 L ~