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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES DECEMBER 30, 1981~~ MINUTES OF THE PLANNING & 'CONING BOARD MEETING December 30, 1981 A meeting of the Planning & Zoning Board Meeting, held December 30, 1981, at the City Ha~ Present were the following: Chairman: Board Memb€~rs: Chuck Frost BUb Farrington Mary Lee Hill Charles Cole Jim Flamm Glen Pond Leonard Longhurst Dan Hess Jim Keller Chuck Frost told the board the only item on the agenda was to talk about.a Sub-Division plat. It use to be called H & R Development, it has a new name now The Fairways at Teton Lakes. By way of background Chuck. Frost read from previous minutes of the Planning & Zoning, Novemver 10, 1977,. one from December 14, 1977 and Council minutes of January 4, 1978.. (copies attached) He said it was his understanding that it has been re-worked, and now they .are anxious to present it again and hope to have this property annexed. Ross Reese told the board they didn't care one way or another if it was annexed. One of the big considerations they had to have the. Planning and Zoning and the city addxess was the sewer and water and whether or°not the city want. it annexed for those services. They will have to--.consider the distance to it and the fact that it is isolated. They need to take into consideration the road maintainance and snow removal & weigh the pros and cons, Th will be asking for city services and want to get sewer and water rates at reasonable cost. Earl Kemp presented a proposed plat explaining it. (copy on file) It is on,an elevated bluff next to the-golf course. He said they didn`t have a final plat, before they put a final plat together they wanted to get the input from the Planning and Zoning so they didn't design the water and sewer system for a final plat and not. follow in line with:what the Planning & Zoning Board would like. He explained Area ~~l which has now 72 residential lots a. little less than the preliminary plat. Area 2, 3, and: 4 are areas for future :condominiums. There is a double road coming into the sub-division . Iri addition there is a canal that comes through the golf course, the canal is shown by the easement, that easement is wide enough for the canal-and for a backhoe: Co go down the north side of it for cleaning purposes, and for access, .there is also a road that goes through the golf course that comes out on Hibbard also. There is a road- on the north side of the canal that we have to maintain and keep open for canal access with a backhoe which is more than 10"feet wide. There is 10 foot. easement down the back property lines. The only exception to the sub- division ordinances would be lot 49 which has slightly less than 40 feet but by .the time you"get the sidewalks in we are up to 69 feet, and by the time you meet the setback. requirement you are. to nearly 90 feet., Earl Kemp said o bring the Planning and Zoning up to date, the property was' originally owned by Wally Robison and Lucine Howard and they donated about $500,000 worth of ground to the County for the new City-County Golf Course, at that time they requested that they be allowed to hook up to city sewer. The council said at that time in return for the donation they would be able to hook-up to city sewer and possibly city water without Haying hook-up charges, except for direct cost to the city. .Rose Bagley, City Clerk, said .s of ,yet she had been unable to find these minutes. Chuck Frost said if this cannot be found. the council will have to act on it again. Earl said originally they did not ask for city water, but since then the city has a little better water-pressure in the city and have extended a six inch main out to the sewage treatment plant. Right now they have put a crossing under the new highway for -sewer and are going to put a lift station in the sub-division and a pump into the new sewage treatment plant. We were thinking of bringing the six inch water line out to the sub-division, we would have aden,iatP 7lYPCCnrn f~.r -____-, __ ..~.. u ..~w .~a,«~ ,~~W ~L~C rairways ac teton Lakes. By way of background Chuck Frost read from previous minutes of the Planning & Zoning, Novemver 10, 1977, one from December 14, 1977 and Council minutes of January 4, 1978. (copies attached) He said it was his understanding that it has been re-worked, and now they are anxious to present it again and hope to Izave this property annexed. Ross Reese told the board they didn't care one way or another if it was annexed. One of e big considerations they had to have the Planning and Zoning and the city address was ~e sewer and water and whether or not the city want it annexed for-those services. They will have to consider the distance to it and the fact that it is isolated. They need to take into consideration the road maintainance. and snow removal & weigh the pros and cons. They will be asking for city services and want to get sewer and water rates at reasonable cost. Earl Kemp presented a proposed plat explaining it. (copy on file) It is on an elevated bluff next to the golf course. He said they didn't have a final plat, before they put a final plat together they wanted to get the input from the Planning and Zoning so they didn't design the water and sewer system for a final plat and not follow in line with what the Planning & Zoning Board would like. He explained Area ~~1 which has now 72 residential lots a little less than the preliminary plat. Area 2, 3, anal 4 are areas for future condominiums. There is a double road coming into the sub-division. In addition there is a canal that comes through the golf course, the canal is shown by the ,easement, that easement is wide enough for the canal and for a b;ackhoe to go, down the north side of it for cleaning purposes, and for access, there is also a road that goes through the golf course that comes out on Hibbard also. There is a road on the north side of the canal that we have to maintain and keep open for canal access with a backhoe which is more than 10 feet wide. There is 10 foot easement down the back property lines. The only exception to the sub- division ordinances would be lot 49 which has slightly less than 40 feet but by the time you get the sidewalks in we are up to 69 feet, and by the time you meet the setback requirement you are. to nearly 90 feet. .Earl Kemp said to bring the Planning and Zoning up to date, the property was originally owned by Wally Robison and Lucine Howard and they donated about $500,000 worth f ground to the County for the new City-County Golf Course, at that time they requested t they be allowed to hook up to city sewer. The council said at that time in return For e donation they would be able to hook-up to city sewer and possibly city water without Haying hook-up charges, except for direct cost to the city. Rose Bagley, City Clerk, said s of ,yet she had been unable to find these minutes. Chuck l;rost said if this cannot be found the council will have to act on it again. Earl said originally they did not ask for city water, but since then the city has a little better water pressure in the city and have extended a six inch main out to the sewage treatment plant. Right now they have put a crossing under the new highway for sewer and are going to put a lift station in the sub-division and a pump into the new sewage treatment plant. We were thinking of bringing the six inch water line out to the sub.-division, cae caould have adequate pressure for cullinary water but in case of fire flow we wouldn't when it gets fully developed. They will put a well in to supplement fire flow. Chuck Frost ask if there was sufficient capacity now on the sewage treatment plant to handle this kind of development. Earl said that it could handle double the population of Rexburg and Sugar City. Ross Reese said there are two or three things that have been changed since he had taken over on the thing. ~. He refused to disturb the canal. r~ ~J /~ ~" 2. They made much bigger lots and fewer of them, because of the nature of the project and the type of ownership and the price of the lots and being out of .town they are anticipating three and four car garages, and fronting on the golf course we anticipate they would be in the medium high range home. They had re-designed the street system to accommate the canal and the entrance on the front has a common area, which will belong to the home owners association and will be under the care and keeping of the home ~w~ers association and their management. It will separate the in-coming traffic and out-going traffic and provide the four lanes and the other is a safety feature for the golfers crossing over to the club house and parking area when they finish the course. It will be landscaped and signed. The streets will be 50 feet streets with concrete rolled edge curbs and sidewalks which are required in the covents.- In addition to tht the mail boxes will be on the right hand side of the road going counter clockwise through the sub-division and they require they be placed on the adjoining property lines, they be shared with. two or more property owners, they be required to be black in color and the rural type. The blocks 2, 3, & 4 are designated as multiple properties for the purpose of building condominium type structures. ,' Chuck Frost ask Earl Kemp if all the requirements~of the city sub-division ordinance had been met. Earl said they are met with the exception of lot 49 which was explained earl is Chuck Frost said the orginal concern that the Planning & Zoning had was access, for emergency purposes and. .the way it is plated now has solved the problem with the access on the canal and the division of the four lanes at the entrance. Ross Reese said the annexation problem is one the Planning and Zoning and the Gty Council can better address than them`making the request. He said he requested that if it is not annexed they do not want to pay absorbent fees for water-and sewer because Robison is still involved in the development and with his memory and with the commitments made with the rest of them that invested in it, it was'-their opinion that these concessions had been made with the substantial donation. From a functional standpoint they are requesting city water water as well as city sewer. Chuck Frost said the city obligation, if there was an agreement to hook into the city water,would be to furnish the water, the developer would have to put the lines in the ground and then if the property was ever annexed the the city would take over maintainance of the 1_ines. Ross Reese said he was not asking the city to incur any costs, but just to extend the service. The only other commitment that was made at the time on sewer was the individual .sewer hook-up fees would be included in the gift, exclusive of city .costs. Chuck Frost said that the Planning and Zoning needs to decide if they agree with this plat and if they do and vote on it and it would still be up to the City Council to re-affirm any agreements made on water and sewer. Jim Keller ask if they annex, what other land are they proposing to annex to make the annexation contiguous, Earl Kemp told him just the golf course. Ross Reese said they were proposing a t3se Agreement for the city services and then the city and county need to decide who will maintain the road. A decision would also have to be made from the city as to who would maintain the water and sewer system, if it wan not annexed. A motion was made by Dan Hess that the Planning and Zoing except the proposed plat • subject to final plat approval with clarification of the agreement of hook-up fees of sewer` and water and recommend it be annexed to the city and recommend to the council that they pass a variance of rolled curb if the property is annexed. Seconded by Bob Purrington. All Aye. A motion was made by Charles Cole and seconded by Mary Lee Hill to adjourn. All Aye. ~: ~: ~' ~,; from 10,00 sq. ft, to 5,830 sq, ft. 1.1r. Cureton claimed the l;rr,ntcr3 that reci,acst bui, the; Board wr,ntu to sec tl,e City Cou • that variance, Also Chairman Jim Keller wanted to study f,rlo first to .gee what modifications in the: Y,onirtF~ Ordinance he i.~ ~C ` City Caunci.l lead aJ.ready nc:il 1,.rut~~s granting r:.c~lson's zonir,t;•plan su1;E;estinl;. Later in the evening Chuck Frost made a motion to reject :~ppx•ova.l of Curetnn's plan based upon the 2 major variances required (especially lot size) anti also i}~,tt the existing house r,ow used to tiause B students would be left: withor,t }parking, Wood hisller sec~~ncied the motion. The motion carried Witt, 5 for ~~nc; Alice 'l'out <,,,d HJhitey Hrock abstaining, 5. Boyd Clarke--'7-plea Mr. Clsrke presented p1 Uns to build a '7-plex (4U studf,nt.;;) to thk~ rear os' his Iirgpertya dirc;~;tly ~otJtt, of }'opt (~ff':~~ Un ;enter street. ;irt iw rc.qu~~t:tr-i; tf,u~ ~~on,, ~~7tar~;rwci: from lt2 tc, R3. TttP plan snows he does not have the room needed for the ?8 pr,rking , spaces required for the L,-plex under construction anti t}ie 7-plex, liis plan also does not stow the .required 20 ' back ,yard . , Before ad journing, Leonard Longhurst made a motion thd't hlr. l;ldrke submit an ammended plot plan showing proper .and adequate parkin; and r•e~r ,yard sGt, hack. Gale >tJeber seconded the motion shish passed unan.morisly. Ch<~irman Jim Keller r,ut~lTcsted the Fire .Chief be invited to come arxi d.i.scuss the requ~ircd yard sc:~t,-l,,.,ck::. Larry Purnell--Annexation of Wally Robinson I'UD ~- ~ -...__. Mr. Purnell submitted a prelima:n~,ry plat plan for ra I~JU nn t~5 r~c:rcrr, n~,rt,h of t.l,e Teter River by lLibbard Road., 1~he subd.ivisic~n i~ to be devt:]opc~d ir, cui~,j„c•I.ic,ri wit:l. t.l~~ proposed .Calf Course. The plan shows 13k residcr,tial lots, 7(i cond~rni.rnun „ni I.:•., The developers plan to put in a central water system wil,h a .well :sized as evc:~nt.u;~l city source. They desire to be annexed and connected to the C.ity's sewer with a t,l.anned sewer collection system with pump station to feed to City lagoons, The Board brought up the problem of fire and City serv.i ce vel,icl.es havi n~; to drive N through County to get to the development since the only available accc~s i:'• through County land. The Board would like the City attorney to rule oa that, is~uc, '~ Gale Weber madea motion that the Board table the PUD annexatior, request rant.il a study is made of the available sewer hookups and. the safeL•y and feasii,:i 1 i t,y of Fi;;,vinL~ only one entry to the development for fire,.other emergency traffic and general traffic flow. Woad Miller seconded the motion. Passed unanimously, 7. Frank. Jerilcins--8-plea N.r, Jenkins appeared before the Board with a problem regarding the pouri ng of a foundbton for an 8-plex in R2 zane. with the City Lnspector present r,nly t.n 1'ird out later an 6-plex is net allowed in it2 zones. He said he had a build i nf~ t~erml t al ^o, F{is property is located at 339 W 2 S, Block t,5. }le is requesting a zane c•},,,n1=,e to R3. A motion was made by Chuck Frost to start proceed i.rrgs try rezone Mr, ,lr.n}t i ris., 1~~r„1 t.o Ft3 and that the hearing date be scheduled for Dec, 1.1,, our next reLTularl,y scheduled meeting. The moti.an passes unanimously after Alice l'out's second, 8, The Board agreed to change the Planning and ~:oning Board meeting time to the second ln'ednesday of each month at .7.:.30 p,m. The next meet i nt; wi 11 b<: llec. 11„ 1.977, 9. Jack Randall-- South 3rd East >v;r, Randa.ll sent a preliminary plat plan fora 1,-plex to he huil.t ran an h()' ,,. ~ / -3- property as residential R-1 , and he requested that the land be shown on the map as commercial properties. After some. discussion, the following was agreed to: Commercial properties will.. be shown on the map for 300' depth and the width from the existing airport to the edge of the impact. area on the nr,rth of Highway 88. Mr. Kerb's property on the south-side will also bc; shown as commercial property to the relocated canal, These changes Co the proposed land-use plan wilt be made by dim Keller prior to the publi- cation of the: drawing in the paper, ,.;,,~ 6, - ivision P a Sponsored by H & R Development, presented by Bryan Burt. Mr. Burt presented an updated plan for. asub-division sponsored by H & R Develop- meat north and west of Rexburg. This property is not continuous with the City. At the .request of the Planning Commission during last month's rneet.ing, the owner has re-designed the entrance way so that. there. is a four-lane rUad leading tq and from the property. ,After some discussion, the F-'tanning Commission did not feel that this road met the requirements of a second access, Moved by Alice Tout and seconded by Gale Weber, that the.. proposed plat have two access roads as a requirement. .'The vote was four {4) in favor and three (3) obstaining, An admendment to the motion was then mare that the plat. include a permanent emergency access approximately 1 0' wide 200-300' from the existing entranceway. This admendment was made i },fir (;h,,rk ~~ rnst~ anrt seconded by I.ennarrl I~onghurst, 'The vote waS five {51 in favor and two {z) obstaining, As a result of these discussions, Mr. Burt will go back to the owners and discuss the problems of providing adequate acce~^~ss fro_m~a second roadway on this project. /"~~~ .. Z~ SL.;,,.,~ ~""'r.7~w N r rr. ~1 'l~(~'Ij ~~'"I'It ~ ~ :. ~',l ~7 ~ Il r ~ (i ~ ~~ l 1 L 7. 1 1 t h, TZ~Tz ~~[-3~1"i-'t~~-- --------_-`'-- Sponsored by Rexburg Stake, presented by Bryan Burt, 'hhe prop~,sc~d .plat for the new church was discussed.. The Planning and Zoning Commission felt- that a second access to Highway 88 was urgent, and that Park Street wtnaLd not. carry the traffic that will he generated by the church. Mc>v~d by W c~cxl Miller, seconded by Gale Weber that the plat as presented be approved with the provision that there be a second access to the property provided from I-Iighway 88. This motion passed unanirnously, $. Comr7~ission Business a. A question was raised concerning who should rule on various annexations . zoning actions, Dons the Planning and Commission Board conduct hear- ings on annexation or zoning actions? Does t:he City Council conduct hearings on zoning requests or should the Planning and Zoning Commission do that? Alice Tout will c-hc clc -these issues with the City Attorney. ` d '~ ~ol...-~r-~iA rod 4 O /~Dv ~:-1` i N lu ~ X W ~7 r V i J i`, t' N. i l 1 n .. S ! ~ / '~,