HomeMy WebLinkAboutCITY COUNCIL WORK MEETING MINUTES JANUARY 22, 2003
CITY COUNCIL WORK MEETING
CITY OF REXBURG
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quality work.
January 22, 2003
6:00 P.M.
Mayor Sutherland excused Glen Pond from the meeting. The Mayor explained the protocol for
the meeting. The discussion items would be discussed by the City Council Members in a forum
discussion. Some input from the public would be allowed. The following minutes from a City
Staff meeting were reviewed concerning pending City requests:
City Staff Meeting - 1/21/03
Present: Val Christensen, John Millar, Kurt Hibbard, Blair Kay, Stephen Zollinger,
and Mayor Sutherland.
1) Consent agenda considered by the staff to be appropriate.
2)All three items under New Business are considered to be ready for approval. Upon full staff
review it is recommended that the Mayor be authorized to sign the Plats.
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3) Continental Park Condos are the buildings located on the Northwest corner of 7 South and
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5 West that were originally approved as apartments, and have subsequently requested to
transition to condos. Staff considers the change to Condos to not be relevant to the use, and
therefore not significant.
4) A minor plat modification to existing plats that make changes to right-of-way.
5) Hidden Valley is just one more in the interminable line of Phases in Gene Palmer’s
Subdivision.
6) The only public hearing scheduled is to clean up the Louisiana Purchase to accommodate
the eventuality of recreational development.
Old Business:
7) RR2 third reading, again staff recommends approval based upon the need for a more
finite definition of use.
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8) Staff recommends that the Annexation Ordinance be 2 read in order to put us in a
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position to finalize and 3 read at the appropriate time.
9) Discussion should be undertaken immediately to start LID 33, to deal with construction
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associated with the States construction of 2 East and Main.
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End of Staff minutes from 01-21-03
Paul Pugmire – Identified six issues of concern from discussions at the last City Council meeting
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on the 08 of January, 2003 for the Widdison Addition.
1) Sewer and water installed at the same time
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2) Waiving front footage fees similar to the South 5 West annexation
3) Waiving additional fees without precedent
4) Sidewalk costs in context with impact fees
5) Impact Fee Ordinance
6) City/County discussion for shared cost expansion of City services
Paul Pugmire – Expressed his opinion that the #1 issue was costs for receiving City Services and
the disruption to the neighborhood. He recommended allowing some time before the
citizens would be required to connect to water and sewer.
John Millar – Indicated that the proposed route for the water line would be on the South side of
the road in the Widdison Addition and the sewer line would be on the Northerly edged of
the same road. The State of Idaho requires a 10 foot separation between these two
systems. The sewer line will be 13 feet deep and the trench will be about 10 feet wide.
The water line will be less intrusive in a smaller trench.
Marsha Bjornn – Discussed the possibility of having the City install the lines and having hookup
fees assessed at a later date when the service was connected to the residence. John
reviewed the need to follow the City Ordinance for connections to City services.
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Discussion on a past annexation on 5 West where the residences were already using
City services.
Discussion on the City Ordinance requiring a connection to the City sewer within 60 days
after the resident is notified to connect by the City of Rexburg.
Paul Pugmire – Discussed the possibility of only requiring a connection to the City of
Rexburg sewer system when the resident’s septic system failed and District 7 Health
would not reissue a permit for the private system.
Nyle Fullmer – Concerned with the City of Rexburg budget and the need for the City to
pay for the services as the budget allows.
John Millar – Commented on the reasons for running both water and sewer lines at the same
time to limit the cost and finish the project without revisiting the site. John mentioned
environmental concerns, and the growth and development of the Community as issues or
reasons for doing both lines at the same time.
Nyle Fullmer – Made mention of those who desire the services at this time and others who do
not want the services for several more years. Nyle seemed concerned with the cash
outlay for the City and the need for a pay as you go attitude.
Mayor Sutherland – Compared the costs of the new private systems with the cost to
connect to the City systems.
Richard Horner – Reviewed the idea of having the City of Rexburg services available ahead
of new developments. He indicated that new subdivisions next to the City should have
City services available to them.
Marsha Bjornn – Responded to the comments of Dick Dyer’s memo to the City Council
that indicated a need to preserve the land resources with planned development.
Kurt Hibbert – Commented on the fact that the County could allow multi-family housing
on County developments in this area if the area is not annexed.
Mayor Sutherland – Discussed amending Rural Residential 2 to remove the requirement to
have a sidewalk.
Nyle Fullmer - Discussed the three unique areas of the City of Rexburg that may be annexed.
Paul Pugmire – Mentioned that he prefers to have sidewalks in subdivisions. They make
better neighborhoods.
Discussion on having a Sidewalk Ordinance by Zone instead of a separate Sidewalk Ordnance.
Paul Pugmire – Recommended changing the RR2 Zone for sidewalks for new and
existing subdivisions.
John Millar – Indicated that the RR2 Zone was for ½ acre lots.
Marsha Bjornn – Mentioned that she preferred to have sidewalks in new subdivisions.
Discussion on the City’s liability if someone was injured in a car-pedestrian accident in an
area where the City of Rexburg did not require a sidewalk. The comparison was made
to an accident on main street when a street light was not installed at an intersection
where an accident occurred.
Stephen Zollinger – Inquired of Kurt Hibbert on the possibility of having an RR1 Zone for
the Widdison Addition. Kurt reviewed the process that Planning and Zoning went
through to create the RR2 Zone. They worked with other Cities on the sidewalk issue
for rural subdivisions. Kurt mentioned that these Cities preferred to have sidewalks
in subdivisions.
Discussion on the current Zoning Ordinance 725 concerning chapter three and chapter ten.
These chapters are concerned with the Zones in the City of Rexburg and the City of
Rexburg Impact Zone.
Discussion on the RR1 Zone requiring a minimum of one acre lots and the allowance
of livestock.
Discussion on using the Rural Residential 1 Zone for the Widdison Addition.
Mayor Sutherland – Indicated that if the RR1 Zone was applied to the Widdison Addition,
they would be allowed to have livestock per the RR1 Zone which does not
require sidewalks.
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Waiving front footage fees similar to the South 5 West annexation
Mayor Sutherland – Commented on the option of having an average lot size used for the
front footage fees.
Shawn Larsen – Explored the idea of having an incentive to hookup to the City services.
Paul Pugmire – Discussed the possibility of having a hook up window of 3 ½ months to
12 months as an incentive. Another example would be waiting until the resident’s
current septic system permit expires before requiring connection to the City sewer
system.
Nyle Fullmer – Expressed a concern that additional road damage would occur if the water
and sewer were not installed at the same time.
John Millar - Indicated that the sewer and water would be stubbed out to residents on both
sides of the road to the edge of the right of way for future connections.
Richard Horner – Explained the reasons not to waive hookup fees. These fees are tied to the
cost of service or the capacity for the City of Rexburg sewer and water systems.
He indicated that by having more residents connected to the City water and sewer
systems, the total cost of capacity would be spread over more users which would
help keep the monthly rate lower.
John Millar – Referenced the idea of having a universal or average front footage amount in
the calculation of the front fee cost.
Discussion on the State Statute 50222 (Annexation of Adjacent Territory, namely category B).
There may be some properties in this current proposal that do not fit the description for
allowable annexations. The City will review the properties in question for clarification.
Discussion on the possibilities available to the City of Rexburg to provide incentives
for annexation.
Nyle Fullmer – Expressed his continued concern with the idea of providing incentives to
some residents and not the others. Continued discussion on using an average City lot
for the front footage fee and a time to connect incentive option. Nyle would like to find
a way to mitigate some of the costs for the residents in a way that is fair for the rest of
the City.
Shawn Larsen – Presented an example of only five of the residents hooking up to the
sewer system without a window of opportunity compared to 30 residents hooking up
with a window of opportunity.
Richard Horner – Continued to express a desire to move the City backbone system into
those areas of proposed development. This would allow developments to take
advantage of the City sewer and water systems.
Mayor Sutherland – Explained that an additional work meeting is needed to finish the
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discussion on the proposed Zoning and the proposed incentives. There will be a 2
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work meeting on the 5 of February at 6:00 p.m. before the next City Council meeting.
There will be continued discussion on front footage fees and connection fees.
Adjourned