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Home My WebLink AboutCONSTRUCTION CORRESPONDANCE - 06-00024 - Rexburg LDS Temple - New Building11 2007 7:O8RM JRCOBSEN CONSTRUCTION 2084962982 111400MR. ® Jacobsen Construction Company, Inc. Fax Transmittal Attention: �T041 3Company: Fax M 351- 302Z From: Gkaj Date: Total number of pages sent including cover sheet: If all pages are not received, please call: (208) 496-2985 Comments: Jacobsen Construction Company, Inc. -Rexburg Idaho Temple Project --Phone 208-496-2985 Fax Z08-496-2982 Jul 11 2007 7:08RM JACOBSEN CONSTRUCTION 2084962982 p.2 E JACOBSEN Construction July 11, 2007 John Berry. Fax: 208-359-3022 Building Inspector -- City of Rexburg 12 N. Center Rexburg, Idaho 83440 Subject: ADA Toilet Locations at Rexburg Idaho Temple Dear John, I am in possession of an inspection ticket dated 6/19/07 regarding the incorrect location of many of the ADA toilets in the temple. Per the referenced standard each toilet base should be within 16 to 18 -inches of an adjacent wall. As I understand it, many of the toilets are within an 1" of this requirement with the remaining couple within 1 Ys". Jacobsen has forwarded this correction notice to Mountain West Mechanical and they have responded with the attached fetter. While I am aware that you have granted limited latitude to Sam on this issue, I am hopeful we can receive a little more as repairing this issue in rooms with completed finishes will cost thousands of dollars. Please review the attached letter and drop by at your convenience to discuss. Respectfully, JACOBS :RUC7 COMPANY, INC. IT Chad Richards Project Manager Jul 11 2007 7:08RM 07/$0/200? 08:52 FAX JACOBSEN CONSTRUCTION 2084962982 Q0001/0002 p.3 July 9, 2007 Chad Richards Jacobsen Construction 792 South 2"' East Rexburg, ID 83440 Wountain Wftt Mechanical MARLIN HILL 2338 W. 5200 S. REXBURG. ID 83440 200.356.0370 20&356.0253 (FAX) MTNWSTf�00.COM RE: ANSI -STANDARDS A117.1-2003 -- MU-26-07 Dear Chad: In addressing the issue of the ADA water closet locations, we have the following comments and concerns. After obtaining the ICCIANS I Al 17.1-2003 regulations and upon reviewing them, I noted that under Chapter 2, Scoping 203 Administration it states, "The administrative authority shall provide an appropriate review and approval process to ensure compliance with this standard." We note that according to the recorded documents signed by the administrative authority that numerous inspections were perfbnned and signatures were obtained verifying acceptability of the installed rough -in of the piping, whiob included locations of the water closet flanges and at no time were we informed or received any comments that we were out of compliance. It is and always has been our intent to comply with the codes and regulations regarding the installation of plumbing systems. However, we were unaware of the ANSI compliance requircment as indicated. In fact; we have always been under the impression that the 18" dimension was a muvmwn with an allowance up to 20", Most architectural drawings indicate an 18" dimension without specifics of minimums ormaxunums. As I have reviewed the ANSI 604.2, I note that while the code indicates a 16"-18" dimension it also gives a IT'-19" dimension for ambulatory facilities. This indicates to me some allowance for these dimensions, while obviously these dimensions are specified for purposes of providing a certain Jul 11 2007 7:08RM 07AO/2007 09:52 FAX JRCOBSEN CONSTRUCTION 2084962982 IM 0002/0002 p.4 Chad Richards July 9, 2007 Page 2 comfort level for the handicapped person it seems as though there is some element of allowance in the dimensions. Furthermore, as I reviewed the purpose of the ANSI StwWard I noted that under dimension definitions it states "all dimensions are subject to conventional industry tolerances." I have been unable to establish what the "industry tolerances" are, so I suppose that it is left up to the administrative authority to establish that. As I further reviewed the ANSI spec, it says, "Nothing in this standard is intended to prevent the use of designs, products, or technologies as alternatives to those prescn'bed by this standard, provided the result is equivalent or Meeter accessibility and such equivaleecy is Woved by the administrative authority adopting this standard. As far as I cah tell, the dimensions established with the hough -in would meet the "equivalent or greatesr" standard. As indicated in the purpose "the intent of these sections is to allow a person with a physical disability to independently get to, enter, and use a site, facility, building or element." Finally, as we, aze aware that in several cases we are out of compliance with the IV-1 8"' dimension, because of the state of completion that the building is in, it would be very costly to go back and modify the water closet flanges to bring them in to compliance. We believe as indicated that we are within allowable tolerances and that the comfort level of the person will not be compromised. We therefore respectfully request that the established rough -ins be allowed and that we may trove forward with the installations of the water closets. Vmytrwyyou, 7:;W Marlin Hill President MH:rg .-` Ir /4,) lrC (.• i IIFT FOy Frl, i LIFT FOR Fill 5-ZD S JUJI J A CO B S E N Post Office Box 27608 Construction Salt lake City, UT 94127-0608 Project: Rexburg ID Temple 792 South 2nd East Rexburg, ID 83440 208-496-2983 FAX 208496-2982 To: Bob Petroff Architectural Nexus, Inc. 135 N. Main St., Ste. 200 Logan, UT 84321 435-752-4160(Fax) Description: Gate at South Stair Request for information 391 Date: 04/16/07 JCC Job No.: 55022- Issue: Submittal: Drawing: Addendum: Spec Section: Schedule: Request Reply By: 04/25/07 Question: There has been some discussion about the possibility of replacing the gate at the Main Level on the South Stair with a barrier that is concealed in the wall. Please advise us how to proceed. Requested By: Andrew Wolford Response: In correlation with Vern Martindale, Chad and others it is agreed to delete the metal gates at the main level and provide a drop down barrier with a magnetic door hold open and a hydraulic cylinder similar to the one at the Nauvoo Temple. Provide and install a drop down barrier similar to the one shown in attached photos. The hinge is to be made from stainless steel or aluminum channels or bend plate. Provide and install a magnetic door hold open (Honeywell Door Holder Number S4003A & B) tied into the fire alarm so that when released the armlbarrier will drop. The hydraulic cylinder is to be SUDA CI6-08-568, Grand Rapids, Michigan or equal. The Barrier is to extend across the width of the stairs. Recess in framed wall. Extend wall finish over the face of the barrier so that it is hidden in wall. Response By: Bob Petroff CC: Date: 5 June 2007 Jul 11 2007 7:08AM JAP-nBSEN CONSTRUCTION '*M� 2084962982 M p.2 �J JACOBSEN Construction July 11, 2007 John Berry. Building Inspector -- City of Rexburg 12 N . Center Rexburg, Idaho 83440 Subject: ADA Toilet Locations at Rexburg Idaho Temple Dear John, Fax: 208-359-3022 I am in possession of an inspection ticket dated 6/19107 regarding the incorrect location of many of the ADA toilets in the temple. Per the referenced standard each toilet base should be within 16 to 18 -inches of an adjacent wall. As I understand it, many of the toilets are within an 1" of this requirement with the remaining couple within 1 %". Jacobsen has forwarded this correction notice to Mountain West Mechanical and they have responded with the attached letter. While I am aware that you have granted limited latitude to Sam on this issue, I am hopeful we can receive a little more as repairing this issue in rooms with completed finishes will cost thousands of dollars. Please review the attached letter and drop by at your convenience to discuss. Respectfully, JAqOBS 7RUC7 COMPANY., INC. "T Chad Richards Project Manager Jul'11 2007 7:08HM JACOBSEN CONSTRUCTION 07/10/2007 08:52 FAX Nftr� 2084962982 Q 0001/ 0002 p.3 -Wvountain West Mechanical MARLIN HILL 2338 W. 5200 S. REXBURG, ID 83440 208.366.0370 20&356.0253 (FAX) MTNW8TQYAH04.00M July 9, 2007 Chad Richards Jacobsen Construction 792 South 2"' East Rexburg, ID 83440 RE: ANSI STANDARDS A117.1-2003 -- MH-26-07 Dear Chad: In addressing the, issue of the ADA water closet locations, we have the following comments and concerns. After obtaining the ICC/ANSI Al 17.1-2003 regulations and upon reviewing Them, I noted that under Chapter 2, Scoping 203 Administration it states, "The administrative authority shall provide an appropriate =view and approval process to ensue compliance with this standard."' We note that according to the recorded documents signed by the administrative authority that numerous inspections were performed and signatures were obtained verifying acceptability of the installed tough -in of the piping, which included locations of the water closet flanges and at no time were we informed or received any comments that we were out of compliance. It is and always has been our intent to comply with the codes and regulations regarding the installation of p1wribing systems. However, we were unaware of the ANSI compliance requirement as indicated. In fact; we have always been under the impression that the l 8" dimension was a mu' u'rnmm with an allowance up t0 20". Most architectural drawings indicate an 18" dimension without specifics of minimums orMOXInrums. As I have revi0wed the ANSI 604.2, I note that while the code indicates a 16"-I 8" dimension it also gives a 17 -19" dimesision for ambulatory facilities. This indicates to me some allowance for these dimensions, while obviously these dimensions are specified for purposes ofproviding a certain Juf 11 2007 7:088M 07i10t2007 09:52 FiX JArOHSEN CONSTRUCTION 2084962982 On @0oa2/0002 p.4 Chad Richards July 9, 2007 Page 2 conihrt level for the handicapped person it seems as though there is some element of allowance in the dimensions. Furthermore, as I reviewed the purpose of the ANSI Stamdard. I noted that under dimension definitions it States "all dimensions are subject to conventional industry tolerances." I have been unable to establish what the "industry tolerances" are, so I suppose that it is left upto the administrative authority to establish that. As I further reviewed the ANSI spec, it says, "Nothing in this standard is intended to prevent the use of designs, products, or technologies as alternatives to those prescn'bed by this standard, provided the result is equival en t or eater accessibility and such equivalency is approved by the administrative authority adopting this standard. As far as I can tell, the dimensions established with the rough -in would meet the "equivalent or greater" standard. As indicated in the purpose "the intent of these sections is to allow a person with a physical disability to independently get to, enter, and use a site, facility, building or element." Finally, as we; are aware that in several cases we are out of compliance with the 16' -18" dimension, because of th6 state of completion that the building is in, it would be very costly to go back and modify the water closet flanges to bring them in to compliance. We believe as indicated that we are within allowable tolerances and that the comfort level of the person will- not be compromised. We therefore respectfully request chat the established rough -ins be allowed and that we may move forward with the installations of the water closets. h- Marlin Hill President Wig