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Home My WebLink AboutP&Z MINUTES JULY - 07-00327 - Teton Communications Cell Tower - CUP12 North Center Rexburg,, 183440 Plan ning &ZoningMinutes July 19, 2007 www.rexburg.org COMMIssloners AttendinLy: _Virxstan Dver — Chai=an Tei H -T Mary Ann Mounts Mike Ricks Thaine Robinson Josh Garner Chairman Dyer opened the meeting at 7:4Z pin. Roll Call of Planning and honing Commissioners Ted Hill. like Ricks., Winston Dyer, Thaine Robinson, jo Charles .Anderson, Mazy Haley, and Davi L.i� None 1h u refinished/Old B Mary Ann Mounts New 11iP0 at i:0 Chairman Dyer said fC_,ouacii at lanir r dialog ../public l f piresented recent concerns. Th- e Plantn'ng4 plannwg, assisting in developmgd. . Cl . Phone: 208.359.3020 Fax: 208.3,59. 3022 were excus [PrIA t P >'.., � A �4 1 CITY 0 F I EXBURG America's Family Community Citi Staff and Others: Gary Leikness -- P&.Z Admdnistrator Stephen Zolhnger -- City Attotney Emily Abe — Secretary & Zoning Conunission always accept and encourage public awnd on Planning & Zoning, the Sign Ordinance,, and the ``Coxn.rni.ssionexs are appointed, and are charged Nvith campxehensive ying out land use plannm*g ordinances and policies. The Plannm'Q �LJllll.[LL�JIVLL 1.7- 1.3V-1acuy an aavisory gratYP who provides recommendations to. pity Council., The outcome of our discussion tonight will go to City Council for Trial. decision. The Conirnissioners are volunteers and axe not paid. We meet twice a month to conside-r new appEcarions, look at the xmpacis of new proposed developments., look at comprehensive planning, and develop recommendarions for land use policies and. ordinances. Tnput is always welcome, e�.thex in the meetings, ox in waiting. Staff assists the Planning & Zoning Canilmssion in their duties. The avera.11 concept of Planni�g & Zor�g �s to help ba�a�ce the �-igh� of t�� inch ��.dual property owner and the rights and needs of the community as a whole. have nearly always had a sign ordinance. The new Sign ordinance,, Grdina_nce 908 was adapted about four (4) .s ago. Sho-ttly after the announcement of the creatzon of a 4 -year utuversity, we recognized that there �cx�oul.d be an immediate demand for growth and development here in. Rexburg. There -was an obvious need to take what was then a faitly general and laid back set of plannm_g & zozung ordinances and rebuild them to make them more worthy 1 development.ivaCommission �y-. }!'facing onslaught 'here was Mcluding niany tneeangs and -cantles poutt -u date the Coinprehensive ordinancesMap, and re -w -rite the, would become the tools ld need. Tbis -wn. m an effort t protect the cotnmututy from an "anyd)-ing goes" type of mentality foit development. In order to establish what thmm� extensive involvement effort. TIdsM 1 n - Utuvision, v l were, wt . eighbothood tnnews r lpamphlets, etc.Input received was on -one Ititerviews, mail out surveys, n oi . F ngs were to tremendous and well . The tin sed t. n her- tit the rtan t th6�citizens of the conain=ty- Among the top issues that este mentioned was the issule.of l . The citizens concernindicated a rm aesthetics,, reasonable constraints, commumty appearance, etc. Thefime Co -� . . h t n 1 b1 amount f debating . t g sign what kinds of changes would be appropriate- to help the sign Quince reflect the vision of the corm-numty. We drafted otdinance 909, d the heli public herLrm'gs -then implemented the ordinance. f One of the concems identified during the public. •: - t11C'. "'Vpearance of teniporary and banner signs ti act on � ttti . / I ' The"number ternbanner signs has potential and the Z Commis signers and the the f t i� Over t. last � approached r,:&ifgrown with fing fromthe office i l b i��r F�} F- F intents the i -r� �acknowledge - c..businessest cone into Co Rance with ther&nance. We began to get n r.ftointhe citizensparticularlythosewho MP askcd to do better. TheiLr i te concern was those, e Cotr=ututywho not in compliance. ............. n it en co -M 1 tabout Memberst. Cossion neave -received a - .. i • �� the t i t nti l A r the gttr t�� t � i theptolife-ration�. - `.• 11 t re where the tdshield•curve fth �� h Conscion� t . t li temporary andbannersigns werequestion. ,,rzel ti rf.ance office with the • # It Nva t be an Mnrm.tngat-herl'n request dctetlnm'e whether r not tine r r t r t..t � �Unfott f ermg to. � -�l f r do n ga t trite the extent the r::. .. h f'f It d-.f.0$.�4 t t diat • f .. s not a letter that went out no • : tin time we wo { t :.. tIP At soin 1 foil P to t nforcemen't, �• r _nd_---C-3 hay. e been lookin toward 9t thet f n � CityC un it has . t r. n that ought tW have snow n l � .• lvs at � �� migh, irnprov h il,at the ed. re-exanime the 11pur. r -_o,. s ee w eig", ,,..h:. ThePlafmwgrC�01. ,# .hay.,.. to the r ane n ,� 'COMtWsslo f imp- ep-dh-. :f - _ti -t h.- W:X;9- - � t h term ovary ,n inner- signs neeove r . �� .t �1pyf. { .A tonight. f.. 4 r .tixrht tt rte. .+ i Chairman r .n f: : �' X115 ftoin the vublic.' Was input gathered o. � �a��.s�r�e��m regards to the changes to the sign ordinance during the input gathering pxocess? ''h�r'._ :,,....have been some responses earlier to this issue. Peop1e ire the busir�css community didn't have a c out �vha% had ha��ened with the sign oxdinance, and that they were not compliance. What can we do to remedy this in the future? Businesses need toL be notified in some way that a change is coming them way, so they are abbe to give input. Chairman Dyer said it was the assumption that the citizens they gathered input from wexe also the business owners. The. point is well taken that businesses should be more carefully cons idexed while tang inputm' the future. 2. What is the proper channel to obtain a temporary sign permit? We need a more strean.lined process. Chairman Dyer said although the ordinance states that the Planning & Zoning AdmiEdstrator has authority over sign permits, the permits havc been issued through the Compliance Officer. 3. Thank you for the opportzu�.ty to give my opuuon. Who decIdes what is right and what 1s wrong? `�1h� t �.nterpxet 1f the signs are Legal ot not? There are issues that need to be addressed before the ordinance can `"�'` NJ be addressed or enforced. Puling people off the high�raytncteases our tax xevenue. We need to consider -. the Tong range costs of our sign regulations. The Conir ssioners discus sed this issue. 4. Are there fees for a temporaq sign permit? The Pe,-tlmt application should state that the permit is ftee. Chairman Dyer clarified that temporary sums peanuts ate free. 5. Is the GQ day time limit for each sign ox far the entre property fot all signs eve�.y year Chairman Dyer said the GQ day time bmit is for each sign individually. If another sign was put up, it would have a separate pertmt. Chairman Dyer asked for input from the Commissioners on the sign ordinance. Thaine Robxnsvn said the Comt�.�ssivn is not opposed to �empoxary sig��we just want to make se they are pem-iitted and tempofnry. If the signs are supposed to be there for.2 ar�3,years, people should put up a nicer sign. Mike Ricks said sometitnes the temporary signs don't load the,.b"` 1V00 hanging a temporary sign an it. He, thinks the mobile billbouds e not a advertisements on their vehicles and leave them parked o th ng makes a nice new building ugly like . d ting, when people paint f, Mary AmMounts said she is concctnedwith the tem : a_' _ T f:, • + signs studen complexes. People have fiot wairited to inove here because of all thcse signs. She I' erned ry r S41 someone •r J . lxput up a and have it the .. Student lexes . �t sign r :: tat. }.�:.types of i : ... look t s in diffetent zones oir di k ign fe",'-Lis t .Vpes. Chairman Dyer said the ordinance is written t signsare roved through the co w liI e .. ,orne type of package atmt- } ov Ff6r teg.-m-mate .L.L:ez. aYe'.! r process. TVlaybew should olid.:::ff# r advertisetnents. Thaine Robinson s Chairman Mike Ricks air- ed sign Chairman that M� ear opened t be we offtc r r i ZO g & . '_aN, e e d r o '' s tally e: uses. g Adminis trator the authority, and its 6ti�0-op method of appeal. We might look _ AVVc;'need to simplify the pem-iitt-ing Ming then if they da not have specific e square:: �'ootage requirement of the temporary signs. o " �� ers� that do not specifzcall�r cont advertisements. -ft "ns he mte-rsectioris that distract dtivets. create hazatds. 17 :: l -It He 15 CQnCemeCj WJ.f.h the Input froin�e�ublic: I• Signs dull people off the fte�� ' r. Rexburg is becoming a have. for how �ncome jobs. As the City grows, we wiU meant to attract bu3ine5s that pay better than what We currently have. .In order fog them to do that, they are going to have to have the xevenue and customer base. A Ion of that i's determined by signagc. The p-roblern may not be the num.]aer of signs, but the quality of the signs. 2. Thete is a need for an oxdinance in the city, because there needs to be some control over signage. There have been comments on haw much we need to control it, and who is iu control. Tb -tee suggested changes: ft. Definition of a temporary sign: eithex define it or make it general enough to leave .it for inte�pretati.on. It either doesn't go far enough ot it goes too far. Delete the second sentence under �- the definition of temporary signs. Add sign or device" to the first sentence. b. With the responsibility gives to the P&Z admAnistxator, this is too much responsibiiL for one an. Na ctiterima are given to detern-Ane whether a particulat temporary sign is petmitted or not. It becomes a subjective decision, and thereis no appeal procedure for someone who feels they have 3 3. a. 5. C& been wronged by that decision. Suggestion: delete all references to approval bv the P&G achnttltsttatar Irl the ordinance, specifically in -regards to temporalcyr signs. Cteate a checklist on the permit that will teIl the applicant what 'is appxapriate for a temporary sign. No v-ulgar language, must be professionally done, no tattered sigmas, etc.} y There seems to be some tt.ti the language of the ordinance. III one section it says thaL t a i i the i r ntent of the temporary gn rman ' to reserved for limitedactivities tmoctant to the. itRexburg. Further dogallKs abot n in the or linance, ft tt the dance -festivaL the t cl � l out ale . out of } :ice . . I � octant t the citizens 11 Sees etc. �T' r i Contras t of Rexbu:tg or not? it seems fl�e City can exceed size hrnitations if it is for a pattic-udar event that the city is promoting, but the businesses not. Suggestion: delete the first sentence of the thitd paragrap under temporary signs. I tF t . i . 1 - . ""Als-o(Tell..1. the exam les tem ovary signs tit t � � �.. in . � r paragraph four. Dreferences t. . There opportunity ' place for inuftiple bannerst bu§�.ifta`c during diffetent yes of yeat, , * t qtay not i n t wt r hoot t . ear* bus'�f...� . } : fr .rf � -great� t'f�? t t �h � 1 Set the need to l fog �. t once ear, y tK-'.', lt: �eeds to come t n end die t nd— f �� the eta. . t :.� � need t deal ' th h t ihole tot r tap r q., -round to those not i 1-i . t � :..: � . some t1ml . I we shutfor t w hole tot n fit. Fl f� e. Y 1 t Idaho Falls �r :t d t �:-a �t promote ir this t down t advertising f:..:- ..r busm'esses rX on heed to try to C A the red. t twe . y: througheachperson in I i or man iprettyI ��. � �� sign per • e� : 1 t City thecity,it' too paid. People � .:r. Depa-ttment andgetpeirnit, We t 1 f u t -I ori tissue emits ,TemporanT sign f .. f , V.Terc:- I .t blownin th 1"Clke it WMd and starts te:�!Mq ththeaest The Cityese do h. :f ::.ftsshould be temporary, a947 XV1 hetics of the -commumtY.' s, for buildh-i_ ." fits t r ontpsi . nc_� should .tt t�. . � ere i t one-sizeW hdput_ ." same srze, t 1d r few �ign S, r Q T . Id.ne sntsa f standar 6. T his 7. 8. the sl' u know that" -en .9- omeo ordinance - Some. small bus are thete an Commission sho comer cannot kat the " - minwit � ice homethey don't want to see in a Tesidential area, ucts to offer. 1g aim a commexcial zone, they want people to Zones have a great deal to do about the sign ones O"d have the freedom to advertise permanently or temporarily. �d expensive signs., -but are, entitled to do business and advextise. The ks far critexx.a on what types of signs are allowed. F & . lot t teftT ..: M -1 - t 7 11 r3i%T. TLCSC ajoii�S -'9111 f, q-kni 1d he looked at as w11. Some businesses have signs that maybe up for longer than GSD days, but are not necessatAy permanen t. �t would be beneficial to them to have a category of signs to be up for longer than 64 days that are not necessarily permanent. Written Input: Letter from the Chamber of Commerce With the following statement: Our chamber supports a bisinessfriendly environment Wye want to incite people to /& comvusai ani into sur local businesses We want our businesses to thrice and be�rofitable. Wye don't avani to tae a l�ed�-oam c�mmunz� to Idaho _Falls: Ve u�'ayai cagood look and feel to air comms�nity a�cth a tasieful di_�Play of .sig�as a�ad banners while at the same time having at'l our businesses folloav some regulAti Business people da not have a lot of fivie to worry ubo�� r�gulatior�.� and rid tape. Whey avant to .r�er�d their time running their business Let's he45 them, not hinder them - 4 ire encourage a nezv Tem 1;HOJ Porary BannerprMittin<9-Process done on an annual basis �fat all . Dfned allowable guidefines need to be LLJLGLL. ►� � WUR/I WWI, ugm2czansjor i�+ t�em�orary signs, 1)�ermanea�t� affixed sign., etc. rnvst imOvrl`anily, ave �va�at our czty to be "busines..�_ firiendly ". Wye a�ant�rospective business owners and demloe�s �`o feel welcome. .0 Bey should be able to leave �ayifa� `�e.�b�rg avas cc�d is a �onderful�lr�ce to do business. " Letteir from Les Schwab Taxes with the following suggestions about the Temporal Signs: ?'. _Businesses should only be allowed io pramoie on their�5ra�ery items that %h� sell. 2. Sins rando�ny placed �tround tarn Qnd in empty lads ai'ong roads such as 'We Buy Junk Cars'; "IYle Buy H ouses e1G should not be allowed under any ordinance. 3. Si gn s orpr-amQtianal objects that are air Qrgasfilled and secured to theground. Such crsgiant airfilled objects, and tube shdPed objects tbai fluctuate wcthair movement. These !)pes of .signs can absirua tievieav of drivers This i s a safety issue and should not be allomed under any ordinance. 4. Flags attached to light _poles or otherpermanentfixtuses should be allomed,"`tza ermit required. 5. Pennants on building lightpoles, etc, should be allowed, no _permit re G. Banners attached is a building or existing sign �nus-i be securely fas-Cen�r� .�� ng. attached b stringy bungee cords, etc. is not aeceptable. Sips .should remain immobile so they do v o t distract dr��rs 7. .fanners that arefree J•tanding infront of a business must b OVe cr.secure�ermanent,(�ame, no mit require� Example: The cx bannerl.si n �t the nQr�h end a lain Street b theGh.nI h�' � f y �t�aas tree. �t oal�s�oac� ��t�.� Zs r�E�� versatile. Fence1bosts dx�ven into the ground or frames made of P VCpoe are not S. Sales that lastfor up to a week- and involve balloons etc., to sale its sl-)oald be noemit required.'p Large halloons and blim _ps that are tethered to .the un�'r�usi be ,hz �e �u h'�, .off c�l�.s-clf�e tae �c.�zo�'.; � o Thefe should be allowed wit h no permit required. �`-�a.aixman Dyes asked for que stions of elarificati �nairtnan Dyer asked what sfgns. Someotic asked why th M .1 -h issi uld be i� M d SW �Y on arly of theMputi given. V.h-e suggestion was r.a,ade for quarterly I titnc Pe :k��-,,,We shoul able to put up our banners and rotate mern as we a to. w '.. in cowcc : ,. 1 t th the tiir . time Brio Have.process ° �� ..�� . � r�� ;fL z i ■ Ste lot if they wish to d businesses Chairman. Dyer said the Mary Ann Mounts agreed. scone f . Mike Ricks said he would like a fcl e banner, but time is not an issue. Quahty is the ods. Maybe e frames should be regulated by porary signs against their allotted permanent signage on their y meed some tine to consider the Jnput and came back for discussion. L� ;days to think about the ideas. Mary Ann Mounts motioned to table the ternporary sign ordinance issue until August 16. Josh. Garner secQnded the motion. None apprised. Motion carried. A. P19-nning and 1 Zon;na meeting — July 5, 2007 E n -iinutes forjtAy 5.� 2007. Mike Ricks seconded Thaine Robinson mo oned to approve the Plannmg & Zonii�.g the motion. Mary Ann Mounts and Josh Garner abstained for having not been present. None opposed. Motion carried. Compliance: one Nn" r-n"tr"ve-r-,qiqr1 Items Added to the Agenda; None Re -Dort on Projects: None Tabled recluests, None A. Building Permit A wIicatian Re Heads Uu: None l 1. Conditional Use Permit 366 W3r`� S & 276 Ste 2. .conditional Use Permit — 12th w..", S Madison 41 ' 3. Conditional Permit —X75 WS son 1Ylid ted` f '�$la'��lf 4. Planncd Ulu't Development — Founft�r Chairman Dyer adjourned $;38 pm.. 0 Housing Button Element burg;} pools ool Mod-L-dax Classrooms M