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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES - 08-00137 - Larch Drive - Pine Brook Estates PH2 - Preliminary PlatkI;I /2QO� �r Figure 1. Potential Additional Road Connections New Business: Final Plat — Pinebrook Estates Division 2 w_.i 26 25 35i: A Kurt Roland, Schiess & Associates, 7103 S. 45"' W. Idaho Falls, representing Curtis Fernee, stated that they have addressed all concerns of the City Council. The main concern was the southeast corner of the development and the 2 cul-de-sacs. They had a neighborhood meeting here at the city where the consensus was reached that no one wanted the street to go through. He pointed the area out for the Commission. Lot 12 will be a walking path to the planned park. All staff comments on the final plat have been addressed. They are currently working on a new name for Cottonwood Drive. The Commissioners questioned the developer about the proposal. 14 The developer may decide to turn Lots 1 and 2 into one lot, with the house facing on McJon Lane. They stated they would be fine with direct lot access onto 12th West not being allowed. There will be a 30 foot berm from Hwy.20 for those lots that are on that side of the proposed development.. Mike Mitchell, 1070 McJon Lane, is concerned about the 2 cul-de-sacs that come on to McJon Lane. He and a neighbor assume eventually their properties will most likely be annexed into the city in the future. He and the neighbor would like the intersections moved to line up with property boundaries. Curtis Fernev, 67 Winn Dr. Suite 100, stated they already have moved the planned roads three times, according to the city recommendations. This change would be the fourth move. He has had to pay for the changes each time. They have done everything they can to address the city staff issues. They had the roads situated at the area Mr. Mitchell pointed out, but the roads were moved to follow the grid lines per city staff request. He appreciates Mr. Mitchell's comment but wonders how many times they will have to make a change. He wondered what the determining factor is to these concerns. Chairman Dyer asked for John Millar's input. John Millar stated he was not involved with the first discussion for the roads to align with the grid line system, but he had wanted elimination of some of the cul-de-sacs for maintenance reasons. He stated that Mike Mitchell's statement is correct on where the roads align. He did not know the feasibility of getting 4 property owners to agree to put a road through where it is being requested. Kurt Roland said the planned roads are on the grid line system. Chairman Dyer asked what the issue was for Mike Mitchell. No one has come forward with any plans for future development. Mr. Mitchell feels little can be done with the 4 1/2 acres he will have if the proposal is approved as the developer has planned it. He has no formal development plans at this time. Kurt Roland said everything for the proposed development is staked. He pointed out the planned roads again for the Commissioners. The Commissioners discussed the proposal. Dan Hanna motioned to recommend approval to City Council of the final plat for Pinebrook Estates Division 2, with the condition that all lots fronting 12'b West will have no access onto 12"' West, and requiring that the Development Agreement with the city be in place prior to the final signing of the plat. Ted Hill seconded the motion. There was a brief discussion with John Millar on the proposed development's water and sewer lines, which will be formally addressed in their Development Agreement with the city. None opposed. Motion carried. 15 Unfinished/Old Business: Compliance: Non controversial Items Added to the Agenda: Kirby Forbush — Willow Brook Estates Division 5 Final Plat - Clarification on ribbon curbing Kirby Forbush, 3800 W.1000 N., addressed the Commissioners, asking for guidance. The City Council informed him that they had passed a ribbon curbing ordinance in January of this year which requires ribbon curbing in Rural Residential 2 (RR2) zones. When he presented the preliminary plat in 2003, that ordinance was not in place. The other phases of Willow Brook Estates do not have ribbon curbing. He is not opposed to putting in ribbon curbing, but aesthetically, it will not look right. Thaine Robinson commented it is in the tax payers' best interest to have ribbon curbing, as it preserves the road. Stephen Zollinger said the Commission could send a recommendation to City Council, to consider that this ribbon curbing be placed on an LID for the development to be brought up to city standards. The Commissioners continued to discuss the issue and ask questions of Stephen Zollinger. Chairman Dyer stated this situation is unique as the development started out in the impact area. There is no development agreement. Kirby Forbush agreed that ribbon curbing is a good idea to preserve city roads. If there is consistency, either all ribbon curbing or no ribbon curbing in this entire development, it would be alright with him. Mike Ricks supported the idea of an LID for this subdivision's ribbon curbing. Charles Andersen motioned to recommend to City Council that the developer provide ribbon curbing to Willow Brook Estates Division 5 if the city implements an LID for ribbon curbing for the rest of the Willow Brook Estates subdivision to bring it up to city standards. If an LID is not imposed, then ribbon curbing should be waived on Willow Brook Estates Division 5. Dan Hanna seconded the motion. The Commissioners discussed the motion. Those in Favor: Those Opposed: 16 Randall Porter Richie Webb Winston Dyer Mike Ricks Thaine Robinson Charles Andersen Ted Hill Dan Hanna Motion carried. Report on Projects: Tabled Requests: Building Permit Application Report: Heads Un: Chairman Dyer adjourned the meeting at 11:25 pm. 17