HomeMy WebLinkAboutMORGAN PETERSEN MEETING MINUTES - 18-00233 - 228 N 3rd W - DuplexMorgan Petersen Meeting
Comprehensive plan is Low to moderate residential
Zoning in Low density residential 2
Each duplex requires 10,000 sq ft lot with parking
Parcel #1 is 12764 sq ft
Parcel #2 is 41656
No building plans will be reviewed before land use issues are resolved (lot splits, lot line adjustments, deeds, easements, building footprints and setbacks, etc.)
Ray asked if easement can count towards lot sq ft requirement
Bret reminded them about a spot zone that didn’t go through before
Ray referred to the preliminary plan that has carve outs on the parcels
A surveyor will check the lot lines
Building on 3rd W will be a duplex
2nd duplex to the E of the parking lot on the plan
Craig will review whether the parking can be on a completely separate lot
Ray has a proposal for sharing a parking lot between the two duplexes and having a restrictive lot development covenant which would restrict one parcel from being sold without another
lot
Before they send a surveyor out, they want to know if the duplex plan Ray proposed will go through
Natalie said that we will talk to P&Z and Legal about it
They’re buying the two properties to the South
They aren’t planning on changing the duplexes to four-plexus anymore, they’re just going to make them bigger up/down duplexes
They want to take it to MDR2 sometime in the future, but only when it is more possible which is partially the reason for the big parking lot. They also want to be good neighbors and
don’t want to have people parking on the street
Natalie reminded them about the possible cost of a bigger development down the road in time
Bret asks if they do the up/down duplex if there will be bedrooms in the basement of the West duplex.
Tyler Jones says that downstairs will be two bedrooms and a bathroom downstairs. They’ll bring in a house plan sometime
Natalie will turn in the master plan to Craig
Natalie says that if the lot line is actually going through the building then that will cause problems on the revision
If the building is on the property line then Ray said that they will shift the driveway down to meet setbacks if they need to.
Natalie says that Craig is going to want to see how the parcel will end up (Masterplan)
Everyone reviewed the building compliance on the plans
Revisions should have setbacks with buildings and property lines, parking stall dimensions and labels
Put a landscaping label between property line and parking lot
Parking lot has to be buffered from the other lots. Natalie says a 6ft high fence is fine for buffering and/or landscaping
Callout snow storage area (square footage) on plans
Show Parking lot drainage elevations
Position the house correctly with dimensions
Get the exact location of the house in the parcel
Label big trees on the property in landscaping
Bret says the concept as of right now is fine
And get labels on the site plan
Nothing stands out to Bret that would be a showstopper
If they ever add anything more the project will take up a larger area and bring with it the need for fire hydrants, sewer main lines, and the 300ft turnaround. That’s only if they choose
to do further development.
The other houses will need an easement to use the driveway for access. This needs to be labeled on plans. Also include legal descriptions of deeds and easements for each of the parcels.
Ray has a few questions:
He says what they were originally hoping is that they could do a lot line adjustment. Would it be easier to have a 20,000 sq ft lot with two duplexes on it? Code wasn’t clear.
If you have more than one duplex on the lot then that lot has to be moved to a higher density. Real density is the same, but it would be out of compliance with zoning.
We can’t do a lot line adjustment, are we doing a short plat? What are we applying for? Ray wants to do a lot line adjustment and a lot split so he doesn’t have to do a short plat.
Natalie relays that Craig said that it normally requires a short plat, but he’s ok with them surveying like they’re saying and turning in 3 deeds for the three lots that show where they
are and their descriptions
Can they fall under the 60ft drive off exemption in the code for gravel parking lots? It isn’t spelled out clearly in the code.
Bret says that they don’t qualify for that exemption. The 60ft exemption counts for uses that have tenants that just come to like drop things off and then head off, like a storage unit.
Typically in light industrial, not residential.
Parking and driveways should be non-permeable surface before full occupancy is granted. A temporary occupancy can be granted in extenuating circumstances.
Tyler Jones has a question:
Even on a temporary basis they’re doing a lot of concrete, can they get a temporary use for gravel, especially for winter?
Bret: ultimately the temporary situations are administered if there is no way to pave or something is preventing the paving from happening. We try to avoid those because temporary can
extend into longer lengths of time. This is typically not an option. We run it by Val and Craig, at that point we could ask the question. We should move forward with the info we have
now and address questions like this later on.
Natalie asks them to label whether it will be asphalt or concrete on the preliminary plans
Natalie reminds them that they need to have 40% hard surface and 60% has to be landscaping of the front yard. Not much to worry about because they have good green space on the road frontage.
Will they have to add sidewalk?
Yes. As soon as the second building is started they have to have sidewalk.
Ray says they’ll have to get it surveyed on the front to see how much green space they have.
There needs to be sidewalks from the second duplex to the public right of way. Noted on plan revisions.
Does he go right up to property line or leave a buffer for the neighbor with the sidewalk?
Match existing sidewalk
Joel wants to know what size sewer line they’re putting in.
Joel says that if they put 8” in they won’t have to tear out the driveway in the future when they go bigger. They’ll just keep it 4”.