HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES JANUARY 15, 2009Planning & Zoning Minutes
January 15, 2009
12 North Center Phone: 208.359.3020
Rexburg, ID 83440 www.rexburg.org Fax: 208.359.3022
Commissioners Attendine;
Winston Dyer — Chairman
Thaine Robinson Ted Hill
Josh Garner Mary Ann Mounts
Dan Hanna Randall Potter
Chairman Dyer opened the meeting at 7:03 pm.
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Cijy Staff and Others:
Gary Leikness — P & Z Administrator
Stephen Zollinger — City Attorney
Natalie Powell — Compliance Officer
Elaine McFerrin - Secretary
Roll Call of Planning and Zoning Commissioners:
Josh Garner, Mary Ann Mounts, Randall Porter, Winston Dyer, Thaine Robinson, Ted Hill, Dan
Hanna
Richie Webb and Charles Andersen were excused.
Minutes:
1. Planning and Zoning meeting— November 20, 2008
Randall Porter motioned to approve the Planning & Zoning minutes of November 20, 2008.
Thaine Robinson seconded the motion.
Winston Dyer, Dan Hanna, and Mary Ann Mounts abstained for not having been present.
None opposed. Motion carried.
Public Hearings: None
Unfinished/Old Business: None
New Business:
1. Final Plat — Trehusen Subdivision - 4'h West and 2"d South
The applicant was unable to attend the meeting tonight.
Chairman Dyer stated the property ambiguities concerning this plat need to be addressed.
Dan Hanna motioned to table the final plat for Trehusen Subdivision until evidence is submitted to
the City clarifying any problems with property ownership. Randall Porter seconded the motion.
None opposed. Motion carried.
The applicant will be notified by staff.
Compliance: None
Non controversial Items Added to the Agenda:
The items were taken in the order of concern from those in the audience for this meeting.
1. American Self Storage — Fencing
Gary Leikness introduced the issue of the fencing to the Commission. American Self Storage is
open for business, but one issue remains in order for them to get their Certificate of Occupancy -
that is the fencing issue. The ordinance states that when a commercial property abuts a residential
zone property, there is supposed to be a decorative concrete masonry block wall unless the adjoining
property owners agree to another kind of fencing and the P&Z Commission approves it.
Dan Miller, 270 American St., of American Self Storage. They approached the 4 adjoining property
owners about a different type of fence rather than concrete masonry block, providing them with a
sketch of the fencing that they wanted to use.. The fence has been built and is a six foot chain link
fence with privacy slats, with two strands of barbed wire running along the top. Mr. Miller said the
property tyis surrounded by fields. Each surrounding Pro ex property has given written agreement for
this type of fence to be used — copies of their agreements have been provided for the
Commissioners.
Chairman Dyer said privacy slats were not mentioned in the material that was submitted
Mr. Miller said they built the fence last fall and just put in the privacy slats. They have had the
agreements signed since that time but did not get the issue before zoning until now. This area is the
only one that abuts residential. The rest of the neighboring properties are Community Business
Center (CBC).
The barbed wire at the top of the fence is for security. They matched it to the type of fence that is
used near the City's water storage. The subject property on American Street was shown on the
overhead screen, along with the abutting properties. The fencing is not visible from the highway.
Chairman Dyer said he feels the privacy slats are an improvement — it gives more separation. He
asked the Commission if they thought it was an appropriate buffer between commercial and
residential.
The Commissioners discussed the issue.
Mary Ann Mounts thought that barbed wire was not appropriate in residential zones. She thinks,
however, that this situation matches what the city already has in the area and meets the requirements
in the City's ordinance. There would be an issue if the area were to become residential. She would
not want barbed wire in residential.
Thain Robinson thought that if there were 50 rather than a few neighboring property owners the
buffering appropriateness discussion might be entirely different.
Randall Porter wondered at the fact that the fence was built before this agreement was presented.
Gary Leikness said that this developer has been working through the process with City staff.
Chairman Dyer said the issue before the Commission is as follows: the Development Code 926
says where a fence abuts between commercial and residential, the fence should be a block wall
unless neighbors agree to some other type of proposed fencing; the neighbors have agreed to
another type of fence, as stated in documents submitted by the applicant that the Commissioners
have before them.The Commissioners now need to make a decision on whether they will approve
this agreement. The Commission has brought up some additional concerns about future occurrences
or changes.
Stephen Zollinger stated the Commission can either approve or disapprove this fence, and then they
would be done and would not revisit the issue again. On the issue of the barbed wire, it was used
for containment or exclusion, but he is not aware that barbed wire is specifically addressed in
Development Code 926.
Discussion continued.
Chairman Dyer stated the record should show that privacy slats are present on the fencing that has
been built on this property.
Dan Hanna motioned to approve the agreement made between American Self Storage (Highway
101 Investments) and its adjacent property owners, for a six foot high chain link fence with two
strands of barbed wire running along the top, and noting that privacy slats have been installed and
are part of this agreement, and that this fence agreement that includes privacy slats, shall be
recorded with Madison County. Ted Hill seconded the motion.
Those in Favor: Those Opposed:
Winston Dyer Mary Ann Mounts
Dan Hanna
Ted Hill
Josh Garner
Randall Porter
Motion carried.
2. Day Care not permitted in downtown zone —Hans Wentzel
Gary Leikness introduced the issue. In Development Code 926, the Downtown Zone does not
allow daycare use. The potiential business owner is here tonight to ask the Commission to consider
including daycares in a downtown zone in their revisions of Development Code 926.
Chairman Dyer said he sees 2 options — a possible rezone of the property or a change in the
Development Code 926. He clarified that the issue before the Commission tonight is a "what if'
discussion rather than an application. Gary Leikness said that was correct.
Hans Wentzel, 111 West 7' South - He wants to start a business, "Time Away for Parents" — it
would be drop- in, noncontract caring for children There would be some traditional (contractual)
daycare but the majority of their services would be drop —in, which makes the business different, a
drop-off babysitter in a commercial location. An example of such a drop-in service is in California,
called Kids Park, which is located in a commercial zone. It helps to promote other businesses, as
would his business. It would benefit citizens, students, and the community. He pointed out on the
overhead screen the building on Main Street (127 East Main), near the Madison County Courthouse,
that they want to use — the building is perfect for the business. It is not being utilized at this time.
Ted Hill asked the hours of the business and the amount of employees at any one time.
Mr. Wentzel said the hours will be 7:00 am to 10:00 pm. The amount of employees at any one time
could be up to 7 people.
Ted Hill asked how drop off and parking would be handled.
Mr. Wentzel stated there is on- street parking and a parking lot in the back of the building
In answer to Chairman Dyer's request for Hans.Wentzel to address a statement in his letter that
said they could not open this business unless they could use this location, Mr. Wentzel stated they
have very limited start-up funds. They have looked at many places and found only this one that
addresses all the needs for their business without having to do physical changes. It needs to be
move -in ready from day one.
Randall Porter asked if there are suitable restroom facilities.
Mr. Wentzel stated there are 2 restrooms. There is also a kitchenette with a breakroom.
The Commissioners continued to discuss this request.
Dan Hanna said the building the Wentzels are proposing to use has been empty over a year.
Maty Ann Mounts said she feels this business is a creative idea, and there is a need for such a
business in the community.
Mr. Wentzel said state licensing is required for such a business, but that it cannot be obtained until
the City approves the zoning, and then the fire department needs to inspect the facility, as does
Health and Welfare.
Thaine Robinson expressed that he would not want to spot zone, but he would not be opposed to
a conditional use permit for such a business granted within this zone. With a conditional use permit,
the Commission could make sure the facility is safe and addresses any other concerns of the
Commission.
I t Stephen Zollinger stated the Commission could amend the existing zone ordinance that would allow
this non-traditional daycare, rather than a contracted daycare. It could be an allowed or a
conditional use. If it is not a defined use, a conditional use permit would be the way to add it to the
ordinance. Although Development Code 926 is in the middle of a clean-up, the Commission could
start this particular process now in deference of the applicant's time concerns — it would be a simple
change they could add to the zone.
In answer to Dan Hanna's question asking if the licensing board has a definition for his business,
Hans Wentzell said he could look that information up and that this kind of care is called non -
contractual or drop- in daycare. Mr. Wentzel said their main goal is to do this drop-in type of
babysitting service — they plan on limiting the daycare side of the business to a certain number and
age. It would be a stabilizer to the main business of drop- in babysitting. There will be a reception
desk right in the entry, so that a child cannot enter or leave the building without an adult. There will
be indoor play space, and no outdoor play space. This type of business thrives in retail spaces — it
really has to be somewhere where people notice it.
Mary Ann Mounts motioned to amend the City of Rexburg's Development Code 926 ordinance.
to allow a conditional use in the Central Business District (CBD),for a daycare business that is less
than 50% contractual (traditional) daycare, with the majority percentage of this business to be drop-
in child sitting daycare. Dan Hanna seconded the motion.
The Commissioners discussed the motion.
Stephen Zollinger agreed with Gary Leikness that the Development Code 926 will have short (a few
lines) and lengthy changes. The Commission could separate them to move some of the clean-up
along.
None opposed. Motion carried.
Gary Leikness clarified that what was just done was that the P&Z Commission feels it is a good idea
for this request to go before public hearing. Chairman Dyer said that was correct. The applicant
will work with the City staff to schedule a public hearing at the earliest possible date.
Stephen Zollinger estimated the process would take at least 60 days. It may be possible to do this
Conditional Use Permit on the same hearing date as the Development Code ordinance amendment
request.
December 23, 2008
Esteemed Mayor and City Commissioners,
RE: Zoning Permission or Re -Zoning Request
Time Away Fut Parents LLC is a childcare provider that offers drop-in (no appointment or
commitment) and traditional childcare services. We will be the only childcare provider operating
in the evening hours (until 10 PM) and the only provider that offers drop-in services. Weare
planning on opening in February 2009 and currently have finding and we in process of hiring
our anticipated 20+ employees.
We hope to rent 127 East Main Street in Rexburg. It is ideally set up and no building
modifications would need to be made. It is also the right size to accommodate the number of
children that we plan on servicing. There is alteady ample parking for dropping off children. We
have not found other suitable facilities in Rexbmg as our limited startup funding will not allow
for building modifications to other retail space in town.
This rental property is cutrently zoned CBD and is currently not approved for childcare use.. We
ate seeking that the zoning laws be altered to allow childcare in this zone or that an exception be
granted to allow us to open our business in this property. We will not be able to open this
business in Rexburg, if an exception or re -zoning cannot be made.
Benefits our business will bring to Rexburg:
• Additional childcare to ease the severe shortage of haditional childcare providers.
• Providing parents with a convenient childcare resource with short or no notice.
• Our evening business hours will allow parents to support local businesses like restaurants
and shops that are currently suffering diminished business.
• Allowing married college students childcare options so they can take classes at the same
time or complete assignments..
• Providing employment for more than 20 local employees in a time of scarce employment
There me several examples of this type of business benefiting various communities across the
country. This type of business needs proximity to "date -night' businesses like restaurants, retail,
and other recreational intetests. It also must have a prominent visible presence in the community
to be successful. It is common for these types of businesses to be found in malls or heavily
traveled retail spaces. This property location provides all of these attributes.
We understand that zoning issues will be discussed on fanuary 15, 2009 at 7:00 PM.. We would
appreciate your heating our request for re -zoning or an exception. Feel flee to contact us if you
have any questions at (208) 3904799.. We would be happy to prepare anything in advance that
you would like to sce, just let us know. Thank you far your time and consideration.
Hans and Rebecca Wentzel
Owners Time Away For Parents LLC
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3. Reduced student parking discussion follow-up
Gary Leikness referred to the materials given to the Commissioners. The document before
them is a draft ordinance amendment to Development Code 926 regarding parking language.
It could be looked at as an overlay zone. PEZ stands for Pedestrian Emphasis Zone, which
is now actually in the Comprehensive Plan as a policy recommendation to be explored. Mr.
Leikness showed a boundary map on the overhead screen — for discussion purposes this is
the Planning staffs proposed boundaries of this PEZ zone - the concept is reduced car
usage to get to campus or other areas such as downtown Broulim's or other commercial
services up through Second East. There is flat terrain, walkable, close to campus — focusing
on students and other members of the community who may use walking to get to various
areas. The draft ordinance before them strictly addresses the parking and its reduction.
Mr. Leikness is suggesting that infill be encouraged and that the tendency to have dormitory
housing further out be curbed. We really need to use creativity to fine a way to do this.
Height issue is not addressed in this draft. Apartment owners would be required to disclose
in contracts whether there is a parking space available (in place now per Stephen Zollinnerl.
Again, this is just a rough draft to be used strictly as a tool for developers.
There is a need to encourage infill with large scale development.
Gary Leikness is recommending that parking requirements in this ordinance shall only apply
to existing and proposed developments of twenty (20) or more units per building.
It would not apply to houses.
The Commission continued to discuss the issue.
Gary Leikness briefly went over the points in the draft ordinance. He said #6 of the DRAFT
should be striken as this amendment does not apply to homes. There is a need to density
around the campus. There will be larger developments but they need to be attractive. Design
Review committee involvement would allow for flexibility. We do not want sprawl.
Landscaping in the front yard of a property needs to be delineated by high back curbing.
Long term and short term parking for bicycles is required. This draft ordinance recommends
that the PEZ boundaries not be altered for 10 years, to see if this tool to encourage infill
works.
Gary Leikness displayed a map of building footprints on a typical block within the proposed
PEZ boundaries showing inefficient use of space and where possible infill could occur.
Stephen Zollinger stated the draft ordinance's purpose is to encourage densification around
the campus. It is motivation to increase density in that area.
There was further discussion of the PEZ boundary map.
Gary Leikness invited direction from the P&Z Commissioners.
Chairman Dyer suggested the Commissioners study this draft, explore options, and give
input. Gary Leikness hoped that at the next P&Z meeting he could receive input from the
Commissioners.
Mr. Leikness stated the University would really like a solution or in place sooner rather than
later because of coming student body growth.
Stephen Zollinger said they could explain to the university why houses are basically excluded
in this draft - that the City would prefer older houses be bought up and torn down rather
than bought up and converted. He expressed there will be more people in the area, calling
for an increase in safety. He said as a heads up that parking around campus will be
significantly curtailed to eliminate traffic concerns.
Chairman Dyer thanked Gary Leikness for putting the draft reduced parking ordinance
amendment together.
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4 Sign Ordinance — Temporary Signs and Banners
Gary Leikness reported on this issue — the packet information is a proposal to amend the
current sign ordinance. The sign committee met once and gave input — they gave no
feedback to the redraft he wrote that included their meeting input. What the Commission
has before them is the information proposed. He briefly went through the draft which
includes a revision of the statement of intent.
On Page 9 of the draft — the definition of a temporary sign — the time limit is changing from
60 days to 30 days, twice per calendar year but not consecutively, and are only intended for
and allowed in nonresidential zones. Residential zones are excluded from temporary signs.
However, elections signs are allowed
Language Mr. Leikness feels should be added to this draft is that mixed use, professional
office zones, PRO zones and neighborhood or residential commercial zones would be
considered as residential for the purposes of applying this section of the ordinance.
Chairman Dyer said this draft ordinance appears more restrictive.
The Commission continued their discussion.
Stephen Zollinger said that the definition of temporary signs needs to be polished. He also
added that pennant flags cannot be regulated.
Gary Leikness recommended the Commissioners look through the provided material, and
then give direction and input to him at a future meeting.. The Commission would then send
it forward. Besides the suggested mixed use change just stated, Mr. Leikness recommends
that in regard to framing (page 13 of the draft), banners should match the size of their
frames with no gapping between the sign and the frame, and that the sign should not be
larger than the frame and as a result be wrapped around the frame..
Further discussion of this issue will be at a future meeting.
Report on Projects:
1. New year's project priority discussion —
Gary Leikness went over the project priority list and asked the Commissioners to prioritize
across the board the items listed so they can be discussed at a future meeting.
Tabled Requests: None
Building Permit Application Report: None
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Heads Un:
1. Mike Ricks, P&Z Commissioner — Recognition of Service — February 19th P&Z meeting
2. Development Code 926 —Work Session
-targeting the February 56 meeting
3. Letters regarding final plat recording- Staff explained that they are putting together letters to
remind all applicants who have final plats that have been approved by the City, but not
recorded at the County that their plats will be expiring soon.
The Commissioners discussed the Heads Up.
Chairman Dyer adjourned the meeting at 9: 53 pm.
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