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HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES MAY 01, 2008Planning & Zoning Minutes May 1, 2008 12 North Center Phone: 208.359.3020 Rexburg, ID 83440 www.rexburg.org Fax: 208.359.3022 Commissioners Attending; Winston Dyer — Chairman Ted Hill Randall Porter Mike Ricks Thaine Robinson Dan Hanna Mary Ann Mounts David Stein OppExeVq� �iv g CITY OF REXBURG nr Aw,,.! rwmnly Gnnrnimilp City Staff and Others: Rex Erickson — City Council Liaison Stephen Zollinger — City Attorney John Millar — Public Works Director Val Christensen — Community Development Director Elaine McFerrin - Secretary Chairman Winston Dyer was going to be late. David Stein acted as chair and opened the meeting at 7:03ptn. Roll Call of Planning and Zoning Commissioners: Mike Ricks, David Stein, Thaine Robinson, Randall Porter, Dan Hanna, Ted Hill Mary Haley and Charles Andersen were excused. Minutes: 1. Planning and Zoning meeting — April 17, 2008 Mike Ricks motioned to approve the Planning & Zoning minutes for April 17, 2008. Thain Robinson seconded the motion. David Stein and Randall Porter abstained for not having been present. None opposed. Motion carried. Public Hearings: None New Business: 1. Preliminary Plat — Pine Brook Estates Division 2 Kurt Roland, of Schiess & Associates, 7103 South 45'h West, Idaho Falls, presented the plat. He said the ground is an approved by the city annexation and rezone. He stated the issues in the staff reviews regarding water and sewer are being worked out with John Millar and the City Engineering department. He is also working with John Millar on the cul-de-sac at the southeast corner of the subdivision. They are trying to get easements for the pressure to the sewer lagoons. They are working on connecting to the City water system. They will improve Larch Drive so that it meets the specifications of the city ordinance for the Rural Residential 2. Mr. Roland stated that they will also improve John Wayne Road. He pointed out the streets on the overhead screen. He pointed out the temporary cul-de-sac. Dan Hanna asked if the road will go north connecting off McJon. Mr. Roland said there is no road going past that at this time. Thaine Robinson asked if there would be ribbon curbing on the roads. Kurt Roland said there would be ribbon curbing on both sides. Mary Ann Mounts arrived at 7:11 pm. Thaine Robinson expressed his concern about neighbors and their concerns about this plat and how it would affect the area and impact on the schools and the traffic. He stated that this plat is setting standards for future development. Mr.Roland said school numbers had been given to Gary Leikness, the Planning administrator. A traffic study was not done. Thaine Robinson asked if the proposed development was going to be done in phases. Curtis Fernee. 24781 N. 2000 W, developer for the proposed subdivision, spoke from the audience and then came up to the podium to address the Commission's questions. He said the whole subdivision was going to be done at one time; the cost prohibits them from doing the development in phases. They have tried to do everything to address the neighbor concerns of through traffic, cul- de-sacs, and reduced number of lots. They are down to 113 lots. Mr. Fernee said he has not gotten a lot of input from neighbors of the proposed development as to where open space should be. Ted Hill asked about lot 12 of block 3 exiting out on to 12`h West. Mr. Fernee said this concern would be addressed. Everything else is accessed from interior roads. Dan Hanna asked if lot 1 would access McJon. Curtis Fernee said that was correct. He said that Lot 16 may not be built; that area may become an entranceway and might be able to be counted as open space. Dan Hanna asked the size of the lots. Kurt Roland and Curds Femev said they all would be at least half an acre, which is the minimum for Rural Residential 2 zone. About 25 of the lots may exceed that half acre size. Chairman Stein said that at one time the developers had thought about twin homes along the highway and asked if they were still being considered. Curtis Fernee said they were still discussing this possibility. The right- of — way may have some sort of barrier such a wall or berm of trees to block the area from the highway, which may make those areas better for home sites. Kurt Roland said there would be a 30 foot buffer along the highway with landscaping. The intent is for a picnic area; they would like a crossing area over to the golf course, if they get approval from the golf board. An audience member asked if any of the lots are less than a half acre. Curtis Fernee stated none of the lots are less than half an acre. The audience member, Mike Mitchell, 1070 McJon Lane, asked if there is a planned park in the farthest corner of the development. Curtis Fernee said the location they have in mind has to do with sewer access. The intent was that the park would be for the Pine Brook residents. Dan Hanna asked if there will be parking for people who drive to the open space park area. Curtis Fe "nee stated he feels there is room but that has not been addressed yet. There would be plenty of parking area for family reunions or other gatherings. Mike Mitchell asked if the park was for the public or private. Curtis Fernee said the intent was that the park would be for the Pine Brook subdivision residents. Stephen Zollinger said requirements say the City is not accepting small pocket parks to manage. It is required that the homeowners association would maintain such a park, and it would actually be accessible to the public. Mr. Mitchell asked why a cul-de-sac is not connected to Larch. Curds Fernee said he agreed to maintain a cul-de-sac for the concerned annexed residents, but the city can do what they want. Stephen Zollinger said that was correct; the city could make the decision. He stated that Gary Leikness as stated in his staff review comments, would like to see the road connected. Mike Mitchell asked about traffic safety issues and a possible no passing zone. He also asked about water rights. Mr. Zollinger said the roads would be 25 mile per hour roads. He said a traffic safety study could be done. He stated the Public Works department will resolve any water issues — that is not a P&Z matter. Randall Porter asked who would maintain law enforcement for the proposed development area. Stephen Zollinger said it would be city responsibility, but they will work with the county. Mr. Porter asked if there is a required percentage of open space for the development. Curtis Fernev said there and they have met the requirement for the code. He did not know the exact percentage for the over 100 lots. Randall Porter asked if the open space had to be contiguous. Stephen Zollinger said the code is not specific. A homeowners association, which is required for this development, would be concerned with this issue. Curtis Fernev said their marketing plan is for attractive landscaping and open space planned before the lots are sold. Mary Ann Mounts expressed that these features could help sell the lots. Stephen n Zollinger said the development code requires open space dedication, which the city is working on now. Randall Porter asked about the issue of wells. Curtis Fern ev stated that wells are not planned, but he said they have that option. However, they do not want to do this. Randall Porter said one of the concerns at the past public hearing regarding Pine Brook, was nitrate. Curtis Fernev said he felt this issue had been resolved through testing. Stephen Zollinger said the City is requiring the developer to bring their sewer to the City. Water is not required to be brought to the city, but they are working on an agreement to get the proposed development hooked up to city water. Randall Porter said he remembered the cost to bring water to the development would be over a couple million dollars. He asked if anything on the plat indicates a berm would be part of the development. Curtis Fernev said there is not. A berm is an option; it can be done attractively, more so than a concrete, industrial wall. Ted Hill asked if the route for the sewer and the water line been determined. Curtis Fernev pointed out the proposed outgo on the overhead screen; everything will gravity flow to the West end. He pointed out where the lift station will be that will pump a pressure line back out. He said Public Works prefers coming down a ditch bank to pick up to Moran View and anything on both sides to accommodate for future development. Dan Hanna asked about roads to the north out of Pine Brook lining up for future connectivity. On the overhead screen, Curds Fernee pointed out how the original plat differed from the amended plat. They have addressed connectivity and are down to 1 cul-de-sac due to the City staff concerns. He said the size of lots and the narrow frontages have been corrected. Dan Hanna commented on the use of berm and grass. He said Jackson is a good example of what setbacks can do to create a huge open space. Curtis Fernee said the CC&Rs will address set back space. John Millar expressed that there needs to be connectivity for many reasons — for public safety, school buses, cost of snow removal. Val Christensen reiterated that Gari Leikness, who could not be at tonight's meeting, had expressed to him that he wanted to see connectivity, which Mr. Leikness had stated in his staff review notes. Dan Hanna asked John Millar if he was satisfied with the realignment of the roads and lot widths on the revised plat. John Millar said he was. He also stated on the issue of water, the nearest option to bring in city water would be from Mother Hibbard's (8900 feet), which is their preference. They have not looked at cost. The City will work out water issues with the developer. The Commission discussed the issue. Dan Hanna motioned to recommend for approval to City Council the preliminary plat for Pine Brook Estates Division 2, to include that lot 12 block 3 be addressed for connectivity, that there be a privacy barrier from the highway on the east and the west, and that lots along the highway be buffered by landscaping, that lots 1 through 4 of block 1 be included in a setback buffered landscaped area along 12`h West, that the connectivity of the 2 cul-de-sacs on Larch Drive and on Castle Pines be addressed, that the street name issues be addressed, and that all other recommendations stated in the staff reviews be addressed. Ted Hill seconded the motion. Those In Favor: Those Opposed: David Stein Mike Ricks Ted Hill Randall Porter Mary Ann Mounts Dan Hanna Thaine Robinson Motion Carried. 2. Final Plat —Professional Plaza Modification Dan Dummar, 343 East 4'h North, Dummar Law Office, presented the plat, representing Doug Smith and Professional Plaza. He said this was a simple re -plat to clean up the current state of ownership of the plat. He pointed out the plat on the overhead screen. Nothing has been changed from when the preliminary plat was presented to the Commission. He pointed out the plat on the overhead screen. The alleyways in back of everyone's lots had been commonly rather than privately held. There was no public or city right to those alleys. It was asked of all owners to transfer ownership they hold in common parts of the alleyways to their own respective lot areas. Stephen Zollinger also stated that there are no changes that were made; the plat is exactly what the Commission had approved for the preliminary plat. Mary Ann Mounts motioned to recommend for approval to City Council the Final Plat for the Professional Plaza Modification. Dan Hanna seconded the motion. None opposed. Motion carried. Non controversial Items Added to the Agenda: 1. Flood trailers - status John Millar presented the flood trailer information to the Commission. He showed them a drawing of what is being examined. He stated he had been through the minutes of 1974 through about 1977 to gather information on the flood trailers that came to Rexburg following the flood. In 1974, the City enacted a trailer—mobile home park ordinance. Then, at the time of the flood, because of the destruction of many homes, the City allowed HUD (Housing and Urban Development) trailers to be brought in and put on individual people's lots. It was decided that as long as the original owner lived in that trailer, it could stay. It could not be sold or transferred. The idea was that they would live in the trailers while they rebuilt their homes. Shortly after, the issue was raised as to whether double wides or pre -manufactured homes, which were not brought in by HUD, could be allowed to be left. Another ordinance was done in 1991 that stated if a person has a doublewide pre -manufactured home on a cinderblock permanent foundation, then it would be allowed. What brings this issue to light now is that there is a doublewide manufactured home for sale on 4'h West that is not on a permanent foundation; the question was raised as to what must be done, because it does not agree with the ordinance. The current code states that a doublewide premanufactured home can be brought in and put on a concrete foundation if it is new. Randall Porter asked which zones allow new doublewides. Val Christensen said Low Density Residential 2 and medium density zones allow new doublewides on a concrete foundation. Most doublewides are in compliance with the ordinance passed in 1991; only a few are not in compliance. John Millar said single wide trailers are not allowed anywhere in the City other than in a mobile home park. He showed his drawing of inventoried trailers. There are about 5 or 6 singlewide trailers that are not on permanent foundations. He does not know if they are still owned by the original owners. Regarding the doublewide that is for sale, they are prepared to put the home on a permanent foundation and bring it into compliance. Mr. Millar asked for input from the Planning and Zoning Commission in where to go with this trailer issue. Val Christensen stated that the woman wanting to buy the doublewide that is for sale wanted to know what she would have to do to make it "real property". The ordinance only addresses allowing new doublewides, so this issue needed to be explored for an answer. The particular trailer in question is 30 years old. The Commission discussed the issue. To get the doublewide to be real property rather than titled like a motor vehicle, John Millar said all the woman would need to do would be to put the doublewide on a permanent foundation. John Millar stated that he and Val Christensen recommend that it be required that the few double wide trailers existing have to have a permanent foundation put on them to become real property so that they will at least hold their value, and that single wide trailers be removed if no longer owned by the original owner. Maty Ann Mounts motioned to recommend to City Council that existing double wide trailers need to have permanent foundations unless still owned by the original owner, and that single wide flood trailers, if not owned by the original owner, will need to be removed. Dan Hanna seconded. None opposed. Motion carried. Unfinished/Old Business: 1. Sign Ordinance — Temporary Signs and Banners Compliance: Report on Projects: None Tabled Requests: 1. Preliminary Plat — Silver Estates Building Permit Application Report: one Heads Up: 1. Development Code Amendment —road standards/ Storage units - P&Z May 15`s agenda 2. City initiated annexations 3. Work meeting with Joint Planners, Wednesday May 21'`, 5-7 pm The subject of annexations was brought up. No public hearing date has been set yet. Stephen Zollinger said there was a discussion at the Council level on potential annexations that have been discussed in the past. The Council was asked to look at islands and thumbs. These are City initiated Annexations - the Council is directing staff to start the process. There are 5 potential annexations that have been discussed in the past and were mentioned in the newspaper — 3 of them are service driven and 2 of them are island driven. No decision has been made on any of the areas. They will be addressed possibly at a June meeting. Mr.Zollinger pointed out the areas on the overhead screen. The Commissioners continued to discuss the subject. Winston Dyer did not arrive for this meeting. Chairman Stein adjourned the meeting at 8:43 pm.