HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES OCTOBER 02, 2008Planning & Zoning Minutes
October 2, 2008
12 North Center Phone: 208.359.3020
Rexburg, ID 83440 www.rexburg.org Fax: 208.359.3022
Commissioners Attendinv;
Winston Dyer — Chairman
Thaine Robinson David Stein
Randall Porter Dan Hanna
Josh Garner
Chairman Dyer opened the meeting at 7:10 pm.
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City Staff and Others:
Rex Erickson — City Council Liaison
Gary Leikness — P&Z Administrator
Stephen Zollinger — City Attorney
Christopher Mann — City Council President
Elaine McFerrin - Secretary
Roll Call of Planning and Zoning Commissioners:
Josh Garner, Randall Porter, David Stein, Winston Dyer, Thaine Robinson, Dan Hanna
Ted Hill, Charles Andersen, Mary Ann Mounts, Richie Webb, and Mike Ricks were excused.
Presentation:
David Stein, Planning & Zoning Corrunissioner - Recognition of Service
Christopher Mann, Rexburg City Council President, stated he was happy to be here tonight to make
a special presentation, as the Mayor was unable to attend tonight's meeting. He presented David
Stein with a plaque on behalf of the City of Rexburg, in recognition for his years of service as a
Rexburg Planning and Zoning Commissioner, from October 2, 2002 through October 2, 2008. He
has dedicatedly served for the betterment of the City of Rexburg. Councilman Mann stated his
appreciation to Mr. Stein for the great insight and expertise he has brought to the Planning and
Zoning Commission. It is often a thankless job that involves a lot of hard work, but it is very much
appreciated.
Chairman Dyer stated there are few that have understood City code as thoroughly and deeply as
David Stein. His consistent wisdom and good judgement in helping the Commission deliberate
planning matters will be greatly missed. Chairman Dyer thanked him for all his great work. He
extended personal thanks to Mr. Stein for being there to take over in his stead to lead the
Commission. Rexburg is a better place for his valued involvement. He will be sorely missed.
Minutes:
1. Planning and Zoning meeting — September 18, 2008
Thaine Robinson motioned to approve the Planning & Zoning minutes for September 18, 2008.
Randall Porter seconded the motion.
Josh Garner abstained for having not been present.
None opposed. Motion carried.
Public Hearings:
7:05 pm — Conditional Use Permit — Family Fun Center — College Ave.
Chairman Dyer briefly explained the public hearing procedure to those in attendance
Julie Ferrin, 500 Edith Circle, presented the proposal. She and her husband are owners of the
property. They have in the past bought old homes, fixed them up, and made them better. The
location of this proposal is the old Idamont Hotel. It is the ultimate old home to buy and fix up and
make better — and it is located in downtown Rexburg. They moved here from Nampa. They saw
great potential in this building -they found "the worst home in the best neighborhood". The Ferrins
want to make a gathering place for families. The location is close to BYU-Idaho as well as other
schools and the business district. They want to make available to the community physical
entertainment and activity different than other venues in town. These activities include laser tag and
miniature golf. With the profits they make they hope to fix up the outside of the building. They
bought the building 3 years ago and have been doing their homework — they have looked at the City
plan, have talked to City officials and BYU-I students, to community members, and to small
business development. They want to make something on College Ave. that would not only be
viable but would bring walking people downtown. They have taken a lot of community input. The
proposed Family Fun Center will generate jobs. Mrs. Ferrin stated they consulted Cooper Roberts
Simonsen and Associates, architects who have experience with old historic buildings. The applicants
are very excited about their proposed project.
The Commissioners asked clarifying questions of the applicant about the proposal.
In answer to David Stein's question, Julie Ferrin explained that the proposal involves about 14,000
square feet. The whole main floor and parts of the basement are the areas the Family Fun Center
will be located.
The issue of parking was addressed. Mrs.Ferrin said there is more than ample parking (City) behind
the property. The Fun Center's hours would be from 5:00 pm to 10:00 pm and from 5:00 pm to
midnight on the weekend, which is after usual business hours.
Stephen Zollinger pointed out the permitted parking areas on the photo projected on the overhead
screen.
In answer to Chairman Dyer's request for clarification regarding this proposal being in the
downtown district, Gary Leikness stated that a change of use does not trigger a parking demand.
Thaine Robinson asked if there are residential units on the upper floors of the building and in
adjoining buildings. Mrs.Ferrin said there were and that they were the owners of these apartments.
Mr. Robinson asked if there might be a conflict between the residents and the Family Fun Center if
the center is noisy.
Steven Zollinger said during the years the location was a dance club, the City never received
complaints from residents outside of the structure. He anticipated that the noise level of the Family
Fun Center would be considerably less in volume than the noise generated from the dance club.
Chairman Dyer asked for clarification on the building having 4 levels — the basement and the main
level would be the location of this proposal and the upper two levels are both residential and would
remain so.
Julie Ferrin said that was correct.
Randall Porter asked what is planned for redoing the outside and restoring it.
Mrs. Ferrin said they have talked with the National Historic Society and are planning for the location
to be on the National Historic Registry. They would like it to look as it originally did.
Chairman Dyer said that if they do get on the national register, it could substantially affect what
can be done to the interior of the building.
Julie Ferrin said their first concern is that the Family Fun Centex will be a viable downtown
business.
Chairman Dyer asked for Gary Leikness' input to help the Commissioners understand the
proposal.
Gary Leikness clarified that this conditional use permit is for the activities of the business being
allowed in this Central Business District zone. He pointed out the parking again on the overhead
screen. He does not see a huge parking impact due to the business hours. For the record, this
conditional use permit would be just for the main floor and the lower floor. Any expansion would
require an amendment to this conditional use permit. The proposed project is all interior. No
negative impacts are foreseen to the adjacent properties.
Thaine Robinson asked where the trash receptacles are located. They were pointed out on the
overhead screen.
Gary Leikness suggested that the applicants maintain the transparency of the front street side
windows — it may be good for the record for this concern to be stated.
Chairman Dyer opened the public input portion of the hearing.
In Favor:
Trevor Einerson, 1105 Coyote Willow Way. He feels the building in the proposal has incredible
architecture. He stated the community would benefit from this proposed development, as a safe
haven for larger groups of students and for families. He is in favor of preserving historical buildings
and having them be an active part of the City.
1 Chris West. 330 East 1" South, is in favor of this proposal. He feels the proposed development is
well thought out and very well put together. He has observed the work the Ferrins have done with
the property. They have put a lot into this building and made their tenants happier. They have put
research and time into their proposed project. He feels the business will be a success. Mr. West
stated he comes from a city where there are all sorts of attractions such as this one. There are very
few things like this proposal that are offered to do here in Rexburg. It will enhance the image of
Rexburg. It will be fun, clean, good entertainment for families as well as university students. It will
be great for College Ave. to be revamped with some new businesses.
Latrisha Mars. 30 College Ave, Apt. 210. She is the apartment manager at the location of this
proposal and has been able to observe how the owners have grown to love the building and want to
enhance the property. She has had tenants ask about the planned project. They get excited about the
ideas of what will be there, and that the business will bring jobs and fun to College Ave. There has
been no mention of concern for the noise the center might generate.
Neutral: None
Opposed: None
Written Input: None
Chairman Dyer closed the public input portion of the hearing.
He asked Gary Leikness if there was any other clarifying information in regard to staff evaluation of
the project. There was not.
The Commissioners discussed the proposal.
David Stein thought the proposal was a great idea. He felt the proposal should be approved for a
conditional use permit that should have conditions which would address Gary Leikness' concern
regarding leaving the street front windows transparent; also, possible noise nuisance concerns
outside of the building should be addressed.
Thaine Robinson stated he was in agreement with Mr. Stein for recommendation of approval of
the proposal and for the conditions as well.
The presentation of the front windows to the street was discussed.
Thaine Robinson wondered if the historical aspect of the exterior of the building should be
addressed in the conditions.
Stephen Zollinger stated the former building tenant had painted the windows black because of the
former use as a dance club, which presented a very uncomfortable exterior presentation to the street.
The Commission can direct people on how to present their windows to the street rather than telling
them how to treat their windows.
Gary Leikness stated that the last criterion fisted in the Conditional Use Permit Standards (Section
6.13 in Development Code 926) addresses the preservation of historic features of significance to the
community of Rexburg.
David Stein motioned to recommend approval to City Council of a Conditional Use Permit for the
properties as proposed - 22, 24, 28,30,32,40, and 42 College Avenue - for the Family Fun Center,
with the conditions to include the standards for a conditional use permit as stated in Section 6.13 of
the Development Code 926, and with special mention that exterior noise be kept within City
nuisance laws, and that the exterior presentation of the building remain consistent with its historic
nature. Dan Hanna seconded the motion.
None opposed. Motion carried.
New Business:
1. Preliminary Plat - Trehusen Subdivision — 4d' West and 2"d South
Neal Smith, 111 Douglas Drive, developer for the project. He presented the proposal to the
Commission. They are proposing 3 newly constructed town homes at 4d' West and 2"d South. It is
an infill project in part of the Rexburg town site. The property was projected on the overhead
screen. The location is on the northeast corner near (1 property away from) the railroad tracks, west
of Porter Park. They will demolish the existing shed and greenhouse. Trees on the south side of the
property will stay as well as the front tree. One tree needs to be removed to build the townhomes.
The town homes will be single story residences with patios. They are trying to appeal to older
members of the community, with 1400 square feet and 2 -car garages per unit.
Thaine Robinson asked the applicant to address the Public Works staff review comment regarding
the alley on the north side of the property and its use. Mr Smith said it is a private easement to the
next property.
Access to the proposed project will be off of 4'h West. Parking will be provided with 2 -car garages.
Chairman Dyer asked for Gary Leikness' input.
Gary Leikness complimented the applicant on the material provided for City review; it was very
sufficient and straightforward. The boulevard strip that is to be provided will compliment the City
and allow the developer to have decreased setbacks.
The Commissioners discussed the project.
Chairman Dyer said the "alley" right-of-way on the site plan would need to be changed to
"easement" as per the Public Works staff comment.
Randall Porter asked about the proximity of the proposed development to the adjacent property.
Neal Smith stated that the proposed building is as far forward as possible to avoid the issue of
nearness to other residences. There are 2 front yards and 2 side yards, but no backyard. There will be
a fence put up as well.
Dan Hanna motioned to recommend approval to City Council of the Trehusen Preliminary Plat at
4'h West and 2°a South. Randall Porter seconded the motion
None opposed. Motion carried.
Unfinished/Old Business:
1. Storage units at 322 West 4`h South
The applicants were not present
Stephen Zollinger stated the applicants were not being given any options in regard to the gate
distance from the street being put at 35 -feet rather than the stated condition in their Conditional Use
Permit of 50 -feet. The Commission will either ratify the changed circumstance or not. The
applicants' input was given at the last P&Z meeting (September 18, 2008). They were aware that
what they were doing in regard to gate location was not right. Based on his visit to the site with the
Mayor and Rex Erickson, and the feedback from the Commissioners, and the minutes of the
September 18`h, 2008 P&Z meeting, Mr.Zollinver is recommending the City treat this problem as a
non- permitted activity that the City, after the fact, would accept, with the developer then to be
given a penalty of the highest amount allowed by City Ordinance, which would be $1,000. Removal
of the gate would have had public safety concerns.
Stephen Zollinger is proposing on behalf of the City that the Commission revise the storage unit's
conditional use permit to say the current gate location is acceptable as built, and then to fine the
developers. They could have come back to the Commission regarding the original conditions, but
they acted without proper procedure, which is what the City would be penalizing them for.
Chairman Dyer expressed his appreciation to the Commissioners for their input on this matter.
Having monitored the conversation on this storage unit problem, Chairman Dyer said there was a
consensus among the Commissioners for this particular solution, but he also wanted them to be
aware that the opinion was not unanimous - at least 3 Commissioners feel the safety concern has not
been met; they also feel that the consequence is minute compared to the value of the whole
development. They were not in favor of this solution as a matter of principle and as a matter of
precedent.
Stephen Zollinger said the motion tonight would be to amend this storage unit's (322 West 4`h
South) conditional use permit. He said this situation does not create a precedent.
Unacceptable behavior gets punished.
The buildings were built as shown on the site plan, but with the gate setback increase that was asked
for, if they had observed this increase, the applicants would have lost a couple of units.
The discussion continued.
David Stein motioned to modify the Conditional Use Permit for the storage units at 322 W. 4h S.,
to specify that the 35 -foot setback for the gate, where it currently is located , is adequate for public
safety, and that the City will fine the developers the maximum fine allowed by City Ordinance. Dan
Hanna seconded the motion.
Those in Favor: Those Opposed:
David Stein Winston Dyer
Randall Porter
Thaine Robinson
Dan Hanna
Josh Garner
Motion carried.
Compliance:
Stephen Zollingc stated, for the Commissioners' information that Compliance has been relocated
to the Community Development Department and will be working directly with Gary Leikness and
Val Christensen.
Non controversial Items Added to the Agenda:
1. Stephen Zollinger— discussion on reduced student parking
Stephen Zollinger stated there were initial discussions about a year ago concerning the question of
the possibility of giving some student housing close to campus the ability to issue "walking only"
contracts. .
Chairman Dyer clarified there had originally been 2 trains of thought. First, several non-
conforming (not enough parking as per ordinance) housing apartments for students were already
there, and the walking contract subject was broached to allow them a pathway to compliance. Later,
the discussion addressed that other housing might be interested in this type of contract. Now, the
Commission is interested in finding out if this type of contract is a tool that can be made available
for them in addressing student housing issues.
Stephen Zollinger stated it can be made available, but the ordinance would need to be amended to
allow for such uses. The subject has been addressed to a certain degree in that the parking
ordinance was modified about a year ago. A disclosure concerning parking
availability/nonavailability must now be on all multiple/single student residential housing contracts.
Complaints have lessened to a small degree. He stated Gary Leikness could put together a parking
ordinance modification that would protect the community. He spoke of a couple student housing
complexes that are marketing themselves as a place students can live without a car.
Chairman Dyer stated one of the goals of the comprehensive plan was to create a band of high
density housing around the university that would encourage pedestrian activity and uses and would
allow densification without having to spread out widely. To help to meet that goal, having this
"walking only" contract available would be a great tool.
Mr.Zo�llingex stated the Commission could direct himself and Gary Leikness to review how other
communities handle their student parking concerns. City Council will be revisiting several
community parking issues. The Commission's concern could be a part of these issues.
Dan Hanna motioned to direct City staff to explore how other communities address their student
parking concerns. Randall Porter seconded the motion.
None opposed. Motion carried.
Chairman Dyer briefly reported to the Commission about the Design Review meeting held today
for the Madison Library. They are constrained due to the existing developments around them. The
main entrance would be on the south side of the building rather than street side as is usually called
for in the downtown district.
The Commissioners briefly discussed various development concerns, including Burton Elementary,
and ordinance concerns.
Gary Leikness informed the Commission that information was mailed out to Sign Review
Subcommittee members this morning. Members have been asked to submit feedback by the 15'h of
October. There will then be another Subcommittee meeting held, followed by a recommendation to
the P&Z Commission.
Report on Projects: None
Tabled Requests: None
Building Permit Application Report: None
Heads Up:
1. Conditional Use Permit — Loel Nyal Walker - 271 N. 3`d W. - Duplex
Chairman Dyer adjourned the meeting at 8:58 pm.