HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES NOVEMBER 01, 2012
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Commissioners Attending; City Staff and Others:
Thaine Robinson Stephen Zollinger – City Attorney
Dan Hanna Jedd Walker Elaine McFerrin – P&Z Coordinator
Mary Ann Mounts Richie Webb Darrik Farmer – Community Development Intern
Mark Rudd Scott Ferguson
Gil Shirley Chuck Porter
Chairman Winston Dyer was excused. Thaine Robinson acted as chairman and opened the
meeting at 7:01 pm.
The Chair welcomed the new Planning & Zoning Commissioner, Chuck Porter.
Chuck Porter stated he is a lifelong resident of Rexburg and long-time businessman in this
community.
Roll Call of Planning and Zoning Commissioners:
Gil Shirley, Mary Ann Mounts, Jedd Walker, Thaine Robinson, Scott Ferguson, Richie Webb, Mark
Rudd, Dan Hanna ,Chuck Porter
Winston Dyer and Cory Sorensen were excused.
Minutes:
1. Planning and Zoning meeting - September 20, 2012
Scott Ferguson motioned to approve the Planning & Zoning minutes of September 20, 2012.
Dan Hanna seconded the motion.
Richie Webb, Thaine Robinson, and Gil Shirley abstained for having not been present.
None opposed. Motion carried.
Public Hearings:
1. 7:05 pm - Rezone – 137 North 3rd West – Low Density Residential 2 (LDR2) to Medium
Density Residential 2 (MDR2)
Chairman Robinson explained the procedure that is followed for public hearing. The applicant or a
representative will present the proposal. The Commission and the public may ask clarifying questions
to help them to understand the proposal. Public testimony will be taken, with everyone being given
the opportunity to have their say on the matter. This will be followed by staff evaluation and
recommendations. The Commission will then deliberate the issue in order to come to a decision.
Dan Hanna declared a direct conflict of interest and recused himself. He is the applicant for this
rezone request.
Mary Ann Mounts recused herself. She has a working relationship with a person who is opposed to
this rezone request.
35 North 1st East
Rexburg, ID 83440
Phone: 208.359.3020
Fax: 208.359.3022
www.rexburg.org
Planning & Zoning Minutes
November 1, 2012
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Chairman Robinson stated that because Dan Hanna is a P&Z Commissioner, Mr. Hanna has asked
that it be clarified as to whether any Commission members have had conversations with Mr. Hanna
regarding this rezone request.
None of the Commissioners have had conversations with Dan Hanna about this rezone request.
Dan Hanna, 850 East 7th North. As a member of the Rexburg Planning & Zoning Commission, he
reiterated for the record that he has not discussed this proposal and its merits with anyone on the
Commission until this time. It is important that he present himself as a regular citizen who should be
treated like everyone else. The request is to change the zoning from LDR2 to MDR2 for the specified
property, which was pointed out on the overhead screen.
A couple of years ago he and his sons purchased the subject four parcels known as the Dean Ricks
Apartments. There are two existing 4-plexes, a vacant lot, and a shop. They would like to build a 4-
plex on the vacant lot. The existing 4-plexes are grandfathered in as an existing non-conforming use,
as they would not currently be allowed in an LDR2 zone. The vacant lot has a playground.
Some things would be done to bring the lots up to code – sidewalk work, landscaping, buffering of
the dumpster.
Dan Hanna is aware that there is an opposing petition that was submitted. He stated that he did go
and speak with most of the neighbors on the block surrounding the subject property. Mr. Hanosky
was the only one who expressed concerns about this proposal.
The Chair asked for clarification regarding these concerns.
Dan Hanna clarified that Mr. Hanosky was opposed to the rezone request.
Mr. Hanna said if he is able to address the concerns stated in the petition, he feels he would not have
a problem gaining approval.
The subject 4 lots are about the same size. The 3rd lot, where a new 4-plex would be, is about 8,000
square feet. There are 4-plexes in the area. The existing 4-plexes on the subject property were built
prior to most of the homes in the area and prior to the flood. The shop will remain as is. Even
though a rezone would allow some additional use, the existing 4-plexes will not be torn down; they
will remain.
Rezoning the subject four lots to Medium Density Residential 2 would allow Mr. Hanna to build one
4-plex on the 3rd lot. It would be consistent with the two existing 4-plexes.
Richie Webb asked about surrounding properties.
Dan Hanna said most are single family. He does not know if all homes are owner-occupied.
Chairman Robinson asked of the people that Mr. Hanna talked to, did anyone sign the opposing
petition?
Dan Hanna stated Karl Hanosky signed the petition. He would need to check the names on the
petition to see if he spoke with anyone else.
Richie Webb asked about access to the 3rd lot.
Dan Hanna said it is accessed off of 3rd West. A drive goes all the way through the property.
Scott Ferguson asked if another exit from the property on the north end could be considered.
Dan Hanna said that would not work. Currently there are the two 4-plexes with more than
adequate parking. There are usually about eight cars on the property. The City Engineer did not
express any reservations.
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Chairman Robinson asked if the landscaping would be brought up to current standards since this
property currently has a non-conforming use.
Dan Hanna said it would. A rezone would bring improvements to the property.
The Chair said it appears most of the property is pavement or building. Where will more landscaping
be put?
Dan Hanna said landscaping would be on the frontage and along the north fence.
Gil Shirley said with a zone change to MDR2, the shop could be torn down to put in another 4-plex.
Dan Hanna said it could, but the shop is much too valuable – possibly for some day in the future if
the dynamics of the neighborhood change, but not now.
Richie Webb asked the purpose of the shop.
Dan Hanna stated it is for personal and tenant storage. There are 7 BYU-I married students and 1
family – this is married/community housing.
Chairman Robinson asked if the audience had any questions to help clarify the proposal, but
keeping any personal comments for the public input.
What amount of units per acre is allowed?
MDR2 would allow up to 20 units per acre. There are currently 8 units with an additional 4 units if
the rezone is approved.
Would the rezoning only affect Mr. Hanna’s property?
Yes.
Should this be a larger rezoning, because the neighbors are impacted by it.
Dan Hanna said he discussed this rezone issue with the immediate neighbors, and none of them
indicated that they wanted to rezone their properties. He said you can look at this as a spot zone, but
it is already a non-conforming use. He reiterated he wants to change the zone so he can build just one
4-plex on a vacant lot that is underutilized.
In the future, is another exit planned?
Dan Hanna said not on the land that he owns.
What would be the size of the building?
It would be the same size as the existing 4-plexes. Mr. Hanna did not know exact dimensions.
Stephen Zollinger said it is important to note that the rezone request involves 4 individual lots of
approximately .20 acres each. Square footage of the structure would be limited.
The lot will be required to stand on its own because it is an individual lot, so adequate landscaping
will be required on that lot alone to meet the standards. The front yard goes with the first lot unless
the properties are merged.
Chuck Porter asked if that would take care of the issue of size of the building that could be put on
the property.
Stephen Zollinger said the applicant would be limited in the square footage of the structure. In the
building permit application process if the rezone is approved, there will have to be setbacks and
offsets and landscaped criteria that would need to be met.
Richie Webb asked if the two lots with the existing 4-plexes would need to meet current
landscaping requirements if the rezone is approved.
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Stephen Zollinger said a zone change does not trigger a retro fit of the landscaping. The applicant
would be required to meet the current standards of construction for the new structure. The building
permit application will trigger all of those currents standards.
Chairman Robinson opened the public input portion of the hearing.
In Favor:
Jean Barnes, 319 Cul de Sac. Their property borders Mr. Hanna’s on the north. There are no trees
between the properties. Their property used to be part of the Dean Ricks complex. They have had
no trouble with the residents of the two existing 4-plexes. The young couples who live there have
been very supportive of them. The land is in much better condition now that Mr. Hanna is
overseeing the property. They see no reason why he cannot have another 4-plex. They were
surprised when there was conflict over him building on his own property.
Neutral:
Shawna Hill, 318 West 1st North. Her concern is how a fire truck will be able to go in and go back
out of the property.
(Stephen Zollinger said the length of this driveway does not require a turnaround or a second exit. It
has been reviewed by staff).
Opposed:
A Petition opposing this rezone proposal was submitted. Chairman Robinson read the statement
from this petition:
“We the undersigned are petitioning against any zoning change on the property at 137 North 3rd West, Rexburg
for the reasons of : 1. There is not enough room on the property for another four plex to comply with the current or any
new zoning change; 2. Not enough room to meet the existing distance to property boundaries; 3. Does not meet
minimum landscape requirements; 4. Does not meet minimum parking requirements including snow removal; 5. Any
additional building would not be able to be placed in correct architectural alignment with existing buildings therefore
would not have appropriate aesthetic appeal which would decrease existing neighbors property values.”
The Chair said if anyone wishes to speak in opposition to the proposal with points other than those
stated in the petition, please do so.
Stephen Zollinger clarified the record will reflect many in the audience have signed the petition and
are opposed to the rezone for those reasons. In the interest of not being redundant, now is the
opportunity to add any additional reasons.
The petition was signed by 60 neighborhood residents.
Mabel Smith, 354 West 1st North. She does not approve of changing the zone. Once there is a toe
in the door, it does not take much. Soon the whole place is not residential. There are 4-plexes right
near her home that were half-built before permission was received. No one did anything about it;
that is why she is here. This is a family neighborhood. They have lived here since 1972. Her husband
helped the elderly residents in past years in the winter. It is a very quiet neighborhood. We need to
go back to front porches and neighbors. Older neighborhoods are the backbone of the city.
Karl Hanosky, 330 West 1st North. He and his wife put the submitted petition together. He first
found out about this rezone request when he received the hearing notice letter on October 23rd. He
has researched the zoning laws. Idaho Statute says notice should be given 15 days ahead of the
hearing. It was 9 days. He did not have a lot of time to prepare. Mr. Hanosky said there are 64
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petition signatures and not 60. The last page of the petition is missing. Most signatures are from
residents within 1 block. He could have easily had 100 signatures with the appropriate time.
Mr. Hanosky spoke with Community Development Director Val Christensen who indicated he had
spoken to Dan Hanna. Val Christensen told Mr. Hanosky that he did not believe this rezone
proposal would be passed and that there was not room for what was planned. Mr. Hanosky found
out the next day that Dan Hanna was on the P&Z Commission; it is like facing a loaded gun.
Mr. Hanosky said Val Christensen told him if Dan Hanna had gone to the neighbors and then come
to him saying the neighbors are ok with this request, he might have felt more comfortable suggesting
approval for this request. The next day Dan Hanna came to his home; Mr. Hanna was talking with
the residents of the neighborhood about this proposal and already knew they were against the
proposal.
Mr. and Mrs. Hanosky put together the petition, and only one neighbor declined to sign it, the
Barnes’ who spoke earlier. Most of the signatures on the petition are within one block.
Mr. Hanosky pointed out his property which is adjacent to the subject property, on the overhead
screen map. There is no room for the fire equipment. The property does not comply with the
current zoning; it is grandfathered. The location where the new 4-plex is planned is pavement. The
size of the planned building is not clear. How will someone get back to the shop? If the building
were lined up with the other two 4-plexes it would have more aesthetic appeal although it would be
closer to his property; the shop would be more accessible, but it takes away the landscaped area. The
landscaping that is required does not seem possible.
Once the zoning is changed, Mr. Hanna could take down the shop. If the property were sold, the
new owner could go larger than a 4-plex. He does not see how this proposal is going to fit. Mr.
Hanna could not provide him with any architectural plans that he requested. We still do not know
the size of the building planned. It is be like putting a size 10 lady into a size 3 dress – you may be
able to squeeze her in, but it is not going to look good.
Dean Ricks built the apartments and lived close by in the Barnes’ current home. If there was room
for another 4-plex, Mr.Hanosky believes he would have built it. Snow removal also is a concern. It
would have to be removed from the property.
Size of the apartments is not clear - one bedroom apartments or three bedroom apartments? There
would be children. Where will children play?
Dan Hanna had said on average 8 cars are usually parked at the apartments. There are more than
that. Most of the tenants have two cars. He does not see room for the necessary parking.
He pointed out duplexes to the west of his property, one built sideways to fit.
If MDR2 zoning is granted, a Conditional Use Permit can be gotten which would permit much
more than a 4-plex. If this zoning is passed, he does not want to live there.
Sharleen Tippetts 149 North 4th West. She agrees with Mabel Smith, her neighbor. She is
concerned about changing the zone from low to medium density. It opens the door, especially if the
property is sold. Her children and others play in the field and back yards. Cul De Sac has had sewer
drainage issues. Would adding more units affect this? There have been problems at the 4-plexes on
the corner of 4th West and 1st North involving the police several times, once being a gun issue. She
has concerns with having apartments in this area. She has lived here for 4 ½ years. This is a family
community and family neighborhood; she would like it to stay that way.
Frank Hadry, 23 North 3rd West. He lives about a block away and will have a large complex across
from him that is going to be built; traffic was a concern for that project. This proposal may add to
the problem. BYU-I wants to be a walking campus. A lot of the blocks here have no curbs or
gutter.There was a hostage situation in the area last year. This is one of the oldest neighborhoods in
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Rexburg, a nice cohesive neighborhood. As spot zoning and apartment development continues,
neighborhoods are disappearing. Slowly but surely this historical section of Rexburg is being torn
down. Enough is enough.
He appreciates each of the P&Z Commissioners and thanked them for their work and
consideration.
Brian Kuhns, 115 North 3rd West. He spoke to Dan Hanna and did not express concerns at the
time, but it did give him time to think about a few things. The important thing is that Dan Hanna
was trying to be a good neighbor and is a good neighbor. They have not had problems with the
existing apartments.
It is a very sensitive time for the neighborhood because of the rezone that just got passed close by
on the block to the south. He agrees this is a family neighborhood. He would like to keep it that
way. He believes Mr. Hanna and his plan is to bring in a 3rd 4-plex, but the future may be different.
Walking to campus from this location is likely not realistic.
Keith Archibald, 354 Cul De Sac. His main concern is with spot zoning. His block is low density,
and he likes it this way. This zoning change would affect the whole block. He hopes that all of these
points will be considered.
Written Input: None
Rebuttal:
Dan Hanna appreciates what has been said. Regarding spot zoning, currently there is a non-
confirming use that just does not have the appropriate zone label.
He has a hard time with the view that renters are not families. He is a P&Z Commissioner, a
property owner, and he has a personal life. He did not expect any preferential treatment. Consider
this property on its own merits. It is considered an underdeveloped lot. He purchased the property
as an investment and just wants to build one additional 4-plex.
Dan Hanna felt that Mr. Hanosky had made some erroneous statements. Mr. Hanna stated he and
Val Christensen did not speak of this issue until after the notice mailings went out. Mr. Hanna
waited until these letters were mailed out to talk to people in the neighborhood; he wanted to
express to them that he would be a good neighbor and wanted to let them know of his plans. He did
talk to Mrs. Hanosky. She did say her husband was opposed to the rezone. Mr. Hanna asked that
her husband call him. Mr. Hanosky spoke with him and told him that if Mr. Hanna did not buy his
property and give him a purchase and sell agreement with a nonrefundable earnest money deposit,
he would fight the proposal. Mr. Hanna said where he comes from that is called extortion.
Stephen Zollinger said Mr. Hanna’s comment was inappropriate.
Karl Hanosky said Dan Hanna was totally out of line and a liar.
Stephen Zollinger said Mr. Hanosky was out of line.
Mr. Hanosky left the meeting.
Dan Hanna stated the current apartments are 3-bedroom. Most likely the new 4-plex would be 2-
bedroom apartments. It would improve the property and the neighbors’ property values. He realizes
there may be a little more traffic and a few more children.
Chairman Robinson closed the public input portion and asked for the staff evaluation,
recommendations, and clarifications.
Stephen Zollinger stated that the notice of public hearing is required to be in the newspaper at
least 15 days prior to the hearing. This requirement was met (published October 13th and October
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27th). Notices were mailed to neighbors on October 22nd. Publication in the newspaper and
notification of this hearing by letter was appropriate.
Another of Karl Hanosky’s concerns was that a CUP might allow this development to go bigger.
CUPs do not modify the density that is allowed which would not be more than 4 units. This piece of
property would also be too small.
Mr. Zollinger clarified that the landscaping requirement in MDR2 is 20%.This would be required on
an individual lot basis unless the lots were merged.
The Comprehensive Plan allows for this zone change request. There were no infrastructure
concerns expressed by the Engineering Department. The sewer issue on Cul De Sac is unique to
the homes on that street.
Mr. Zollinger read from the Community Development Department staff report which stated the
recommendation that…“ The portion of the driveway that is wider than 24’ that is in the city right-of-way to be
removed back to lot line. Grass and a concrete sidewalk to be added in this location.”
Scott Ferguson asked why a zone change is being considered if it cannot be accommodated on the
parcel.
Stephen Zollinger said the lots could be merged and configured in such a way that an additional 4-
plex could be built. As four individual lots, the lot in question is too small.
If the property is merged, there would be only 1 front yard setback instead of 4.
A new structure would have to be in compliance. The question of whether the project would fit
would be a concern that would be addressed at the time of the building permit process.
Gil Shirley asked for clarification of the setback on the south. Stephen Zollinger said the setback
would have to be a minimum of 6 feet.
It was clarified that the Comprehensive Plan of the area is Moderate-High Density Residential. The
request is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. The Comprehensive Plan Map was viewed.
Jedd Walker said the current LDR2 zone is a lower density the direction indicated by the
Comprehensive Plan.
Richie Webb said the fact that the 4-plexes are already there changes the equation. One additional
building would not change the complexity of the neighborhood. He feels the impact would be
minimal. The real issue would be what can be built that would fit, green space, etc. Rezoning would
give the option to merge the lots together.
Chairman Robinson clarified that apartments in LDR2 are a pre-existing, nonconforming use.
Changing the zoning to MDR2 would bring the use into compliance.
The Chair clarified that this zone change proposal is a land use question and not a development
question.
Scott Ferguson said that we are not answering the question tonight of what can fit here; this is a
zone change request; why would we change the zoning of a property if it upsets everyone and in the
end nothing will fit there?
Richie Webb said it may not fit on that specific lot but Mr. Hanna owns the adjacent lot.
Mark Rudd said the rezone gives Mr. Hanna the option to use his property that he has purchased.
When he bought the property he knew what he was buying.
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Richie Webb said he appreciates the public sentiment. He does not feel one more 4-plex will
destroy the neighborhood. The zone change would be going in the direction that the City’s
Comprehensive Plan indicates.
Gil Shirley said timing is very important in the decisions that we make. Is this the right time for this
change?
Richie Webb motioned to recommend approval to City Council of a zone change from Low
Density Residential 2 (LDR2) to Medium Density Residential 2 (MDR2) for the property located at
137 North 3rd West. Scott Ferguson seconded the motion. The motion was amended and
seconded to include the condition stated in the staff report, that…“ The portion of the driveway that is
wider than 24’ that is in the city right-of-way to be removed back to lot line. Grass and a concrete sidewalk to be
added in this location.”
Those in Favor Those Opposed:
Mark Rudd Chuck Porter
Richie Webb Thaine Robinson
Scott Ferguson
Jedd Walker
Gil Shirley
Motion carried.
Dan Hanna and Mary Ann Mounts rejoined the Commission on the dais.
2. 7:30 pm – Conditional Use Permit – 410 West 1st North – to allow an Assisted and Residential
Care Facility
David Thueson, 360 West 3500 North. He is the owner of Homestead Assisted Living, to the south
of the subject property. He is here to get approval to build a facility on the subject property.
Stephen Zollinger declared a conflict. He represents Madison Memorial Hospital regarding this
CUP request, and he represents the City; he will not give the Commission legal advice on the issue.
Stephen Zollinger said over the past several years, the hospital has observed the need for
rehabilitative care and patient rooms after the surgical process. Some patients have been going to
Idaho Falls for this care.
Mr. Thueson stated they were looking for the opportunity to expand. It is a joint venture – Madison
Memorial Hospital would be part owner.
Stephen Zollinger said there will be 34 rooms. As demand grows, they would service patient
recovery needs.
It was clarified that David Thueson and Madison Memorial Hospital are the applicants.
The site plan was viewed.
The property previously was used as Barney Towing. The hospital and Mr.Thueson have cleared the
property in anticipation of this project.
Renderings were shown on hard board. A portion of the complex would be 1 ½ stories. There will be
some covered porches and the use of masonry. The look of the facility will be harmonious with the
residential nature of this neighborhood. Volume and style will be consistent with a residential look.
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Mr. Thueson said the focus of this facility is physical rehabilitation, occupational therapy, and
speech therapy.
Stephen Zollinger pointed out fire access. Regarding the 4th West right-of-way, they are proposing
to convert the bank of canal into fence or wall for ingress/egress for emergency services and garbage
service. There will be a concerted effort to keep as much green space as possible around the building.
Richie Webb asked for clarification on parking.
Stephen Zollinger said parking as designed exceeds the requirements. The facility will be required to
have a privacy fence, for the neighbors’ protection and surrounding properties.
Chairman Robinson opened the public input portion of the hearing.
In Favor: None
Neutral:
David Pearson, 150 North 4th West. He is glad to have this facility here, but he is concerned that
there should be a better fence along the canal, something that is solid. In addition to increasing the
safety, a good fence would also help to keep any noise down. There was lots of noise with the
former business at this location.
Charlene Tippetts, 134 North 4th West. She agrees that this project would be an improvement
here. The former business created noise at all hours; a lot of trash was going into the canal. They
have been impressed with the Homestead facility.
Opposed: None
Written Input:
Letter from Donald J. Keime, neutral to the proposal - read by Chairman Robinson
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Chairman Robinson closed the public input portion and asked for the staff evaluation and
recommendations.
Stephen Zollinger said the City Engineer will structure an agreement regarding the right-of-way on
North 4th West, which in the future may be widened and the canal shifted. There were no
infrastructure concerns. Water, sewer and storm drain will all be on site.
The zoning of the property is MDR1 and MDR2, with the Comprehensive Plan Map land use
designations of Low-Moderate Density Residential and Moderate-High Density Residential. A CUP
is required for a care facility in both zones.
There were no conditions recommended by staff. The standard conditions for a CUP as stated in
Development Code 1026 will apply. The building permit process will thoroughly review all
development aspects of this project.
Scott Ferguson said this neighborhood is flanked by development on both ends, and in the middle
it is a non-issue. This introduces non-residential, non-family living.
Mary Ann Mounts disagreed. This proposal makes sense. It can be seen tonight that people are not
complaining about this proposal. Mr. Thueson has proved to be a good neighbor.
Chairman Robinson said what was there before in this location has some bearing.
Scott Ferguson felt there is bias toward renters.
Mary Ann Mounts motioned to recommend to City Council approval of a Conditional Use
Permit to allow an Assisted and Residential Care Facility at 410 West 1st North, to include the
“Standards Applicable to Conditional Use Permits” Section 6.12B in the Development Code
Ordinance No. 1026. Scott Ferguson seconded the motion.
Discussion on whether the fence should be a condition. The facility will be required to build a 6-foot
privacy fence. Scott Ferguson and Mary Ann Mounts did not feel the need to include the fence as a
condition.
None opposed. Motion carried.
Unfinished/Old Business: None
New Business: None
Compliance: None
Non controversial Items Added to the Agenda:
Chairman Robinson reported on the Design Review meeting he attended on October 9th for the Tru
North Development project located just north of the BYU-I track. Bruce Sutherland and Johnny
Watson were the other committee members. The design for the residential building was very
positive, especially on the first two stories, which is what would be seen from a walking view or car
view. The design will be carried out all the way around the building.
Report on Projects: None
Tabled Requests: None
Building Permit Application Report: None
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Heads Up:
November 15th:
1. Comprehensive Plan Map Amendment – Commercial and Low-Moderate Density Residential to
Moderate-High Density Residential – Approximately 900 North Yellowstone Highway
2. CUP - to allow a lowered number of parking spaces and increased density through the use of the
Pedestrian Emphasis Zone (PEZ), Ordinance No. 1021, and for 100% residential in the Mixed
Use 2 Zone – Approximately 177 South 1st East
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 pm.