HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z MINUTES FEBRUARY 03, 2011
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Commissioners Attending; City Staff and Others:
Winston Dyer – Chairman Val Christensen – Community Development Director
Nephi Allen Thaine Robinson John Millar – Public Works Director
Gil Shirley Jedd Walker Jake Rasmussen – I.T. Intern
Cory Sorensen Marilyn Rasmussen Elaine McFerrin – P&Z Coordinator
Scott Ferguson
Chairman Dyer opened the meeting at 7:02 pm. He recognized members of the Commission, City
staff, applicants, and interested citizens including several students from a University government
class. It is a wonderful thing how this country conducts affairs of government. The P&Z
Commission meetings follow Robert’s Rules of Order to assure that there will be an orderly
discussion. Everyone has the right to be heard, unhindered or not intimidated by others. He wished
them well in their work.
Roll Call of Planning and Zoning Commissioners:
Cory Sorensen, Marilyn Rasmussen, Gil Shirley, Nephi Allen, Winston Dyer, Thaine Robinson, Jedd
Walker, Scott Ferguson
Mary Ann Mounts, Dan Hanna, and Richie Webb were excused.
Minutes:
1. Planning and Zoning meeting - January 20, 2011
Scott Ferguson motioned to approve the Planning & Zoning minutes of January 20, 2011. Cory
Sorensen seconded the motion.
None opposed. Motion carried.
Public Hearings: None
Unfinished/Old Business: None
Non controversial Items Added to the Agenda:
(Item #1 was addressed before other agenda items in deference to John Millar having other
obligations tonight)
1. Status report on corridor planning and transportation studies – John Millar
The Commission’s number one priority planning issue, which was determined at the previous P&Z
meeting, is an Alternate Route for 2nd East. The Chair thought it would be appropriate and fitting to
have an expert come to speak to them to tell them this issue’s status – what kind of studies have
been done, and what alternatives have been looked at, to help the Commission understand where
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this issue is at this time. Then, as the Commission has discussion and makes plans to move forward,
they will have this background knowledge and will be better informed to make better decisions.
Chairman Dyer welcomed John Millar, the Rexburg City Engineer and Public Works Director,
who is very well versed in all aspects of this subject.
John Millar said that about 5 or 6 years ago, the City and Madison County did a joint transportation
plan. That plan outlined both short and long term priorities for near the City and areas out in the
County. The County retained the services of Keller Associates to do a corridor study looking at one
of the priorities of the Madison transportation plan - the need for a road that would serve the
easterly and northern side of Rexburg, and also the between Rexburg and Sugar City.
A map from the Keller Associates east corridor study was displayed on the overhead screen,
showing possible alternative routes for a road.
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John Millar stated that numerous alternatives have been looked at closely. One of those alternatives
swings the road over to Cemetery Road, utilizing the existing road. Another alternative was to cross
the Teton River eventually reconnecting to roads east of Sugar City
Several public hearings have been held by the County regarding development of a portion of the east
corridor. The City and the County have not come to a conclusion on which route to choose. There
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has been discussion that the road needs to go farther out. The City feels the road needs to be as
close to 2nd East as it can be. Two miles out, there is an existing road that will handle traffic for a
long time. Another route other than 2nd East is needed as soon as possible. This road would serve
the area between Rexburg and Sugar City as the area develops. It also needs to serve the area of the
south interchange going toward the University, which is the biggest traffic generator.
The County is looking at these alternatives. It is expected that the City and the County will come up
with a final recommendation in February, so the study can be concluded. Once the study is
concluded and a corridor is defined, that would allow the start of making application for state grants
to start the process of building this road. The hope is that the first section to be built would be the
crossing of the Teton River, which would not serve a lot of traffic at this point, but it would start to
build the infrastructure to facilitate growth on the east side of Rexburg. At the same time, no matter
what is done, 2nd East will continue to be a busy road. It is the connection to two interchanges. It
will always be a major arterial for the area. All it takes is an accident or anything that constricts
traffic flow, and there is stalled traffic within minutes during the day.
Funds are limited. Roads are usually built through one of two ways – 1) Share the cost with the
developer in conjunction with development in the area, as was done on 7th South; or 2) Obtain
grants such as the one that paid for the majority of University Blvd.; that road ultimately is planned
to be a five-lane road – four traffic lanes with turning lanes. As that southern area of Rexburg
develops, and the need arises, the other two lanes would be added to that road.
John Millar said that in the meantime, the City is trying to keep all of their options open.
There are 3 somewhat viable options –
1. 2nd West - It is a natural corridor for the current traffic because it is already a major arterial.
There is a problem to the north of a gravel pit filled with water. There is major potential for a
corridor here if in the future possibly Walters Ready Mix would relocate to a more rural setting.
Then at some point, the City could start filling the gravel pit back in. Continuing to the north is the
Basic American Foods land application site. A land application site in the middle of the City would
likely not be feasible to maintain. As the City grows, this land would become valuable prime
development ground. It is seen as developing into other uses. The City is definitely trying to keep
the 2nd West corridor option open.
2. 5th West - It goes north past the fairgrounds. It joins with a major arterial already, going to
the south. It could go north across the river, eventually paralleling Hwy. 20 as a frontage road that
would then come to 2nd East south of the North interchange.
3. Airport Road – It has the potential to cross over the river. It now ties directly into Pioneer
Road, which is a major arterial in the City. It is seen as having the potential to cross the river and
serve as a kind of beltway around the west side of the City.
Mr. Millar said the City wants to protect these three options. Working hand in hand with Planning &
Zoning is very important. As these areas start to move and develop, it is important to get these three
routes designated as future arterials. Then, when the opportunity comes, they can work with the
developer or apply for state grants for funding to start these auxiliary routes, and the City will not be
in a position where they cannot acquire additional land to move forward.
Scott Ferguson asked if one of the options is the priority.
John Millar said that all three options are viable; they have not been prioritized. In a perfect world,
2nd West might be the priority that could develop as an auxiliary route for 2nd East.
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Thaine Robinson said as the Commission plans, he sees them protecting all three of these areas,
but what about something east of 2nd East, closer to 2nd East than the corridor plans?
John Millar said that area has been lost mostly to commercial development. There are no arterials
that tie in east of 2nd East.
Thaine Robinson said roads such as the one between Ace Hardware and Grease Monkey come to
an end. He sees these roads as eventually continuing further through what could join a road coming
through as an alternate route, such as west of Stonebrook Subdivision. He likes the options on the
west but thinks there should be one or two options on the east.
John Millar pointed out the area around East 4th North that has developed into mostly high use
commercial, such as the Surgical Center and Teton Radiology. There is no traffic connection other
than Barney Dairy Road. 3rd East runs into Walmart. However, he agreed that they still need to
look at a possible option on the east.
Thaine Robinson said as planners, they can plan to protect three, four, or five places, but if they do
not plan ahead those places will not be there at all. His main issue would be safety of a fire truck or
an ambulance or a police vehicle. When there is an accident on the bridge nothing can get through
2nd East.
Chairman Dyer said there have been a number of studies on the east corridor. He understood a
primary concern was where to tie into Sugar City.
John Millar said there has been a lot of discussion. Sugar City sees the road as a beltway around the
area. Rexburg needs a road that will serve current and projected future growth. There is an excellent
beltway around Rexburg, and that is U.S. 20. The City looks at the planned road as serving not only
what it can now, but also as facilitating the capacity to handle traffic that will be generated in the
areas along and near Moody Road.
Chairman Dyer said the P&Z Commission is an advisory body to the City Council, so they can
bring recommendations to them, or urge for an important issue when they can. He asked how this
Commission can help bring this corridor issue to a conclusion as the Commission moves forward
with this issue being their number one planning priority.
John Millar said that the City’s long-term plan is the Comprehensive Plan. It is critical that, as the
Commission works to modify the Comprehensive Plan to keep it up to speed, when the
Commission looks at what zones are going to be allowed in certain areas, they should keep in mind
how high traffic and high volume use will be served as Rexburg grows. It is a long process. They
need to keep ahead of the growth, always planning on how to facilitate growth.
One of the busiest areas to develop in Rexburg in the last ten years has been the southwest corner of
town and its growth near Pioneer Road – lots of traffic has been generated. The growth has been
like dropping Rigby and St. Anthony into that little corner. They had enough foresight to plan ahead
for Pioneer Road, which has handled the traffic fairly well.
Now that they have the traffic signal and the realignment of the road near Erickson Pontiac, that
area is functioning as intended. That area is about eighty per cent developed. It is felt the road can
handle that growth.
The City needs to have the same foresight as other areas of town grow.
Cory Sorensen said one of the hardest problems with 2nd East, is that as they have created the PEZ
Zone, which is a high density living area that still has a lot of traffic, 2nd East is the only way out,
especially for students. 2nd West would be one of the only other avenues to get out to Walmart or
beyond.
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John Millar said they have seen a lot of growth in residential development, but not so much growth
in commercial development. In the next few years, if a big box or high density store should come
before the Commission, wherever location it is proposed, the Commission must carefully look at the
roads and the issue of traffic capacity. In addition, wherever such a development goes, it will be a
magnet for more development. They need to be prepared.
Mr. Millar worked in Idaho Falls on a project, Grand Teton Mall, when the area was a stubble field.
The project was two miles or more from any kind of area of traffic capacity. It is a quintessential
example of poor planning. Such planning in Rexburg is something they do not want to happen.
With the Comprehensive Plan and the zoning, such a project could be directed to an area that would
be able to sufficiently handle the traffic.
Scott Ferguson asked for clarification about the Idaho Falls project.
Mr. Millar said at the time the Grand Teton Mall was built, nothing was in that area; the location was
about 2 miles out into the County. Development on 17th Street at that time ended near the KIDK
TV station location. There was a crossroads of two-lane County roads that served the mall. It
became a tremendous magnet for other development. After twenty years, adequate transportation is
being addressed to handle development in the area. If the mall had been built near U.S. 20, Interstate
15, Broadway, or any of the corridors where capacity existed, it could have been developed much
more efficiently.
Chairman Dyer asked for clarification on John Millar’s earlier comment that the City and the
County may be getting together in February to make a final decision on the alternate road for 2nd
East.
John Millar said the County and the City met in December 2010 on the corridor issue. At that time,
the County had wanted to postpone moving forward until the County’s new commissioners and
new administration had come on board. They are now planning to meet again soon.
Chairman Dyer asked if a recommendation from the City’s P&Z Commission is something that the
Commissioners could contribute.
John Miller said a recommendation from the Commission on the corridor issue would be helpful.
He does not think there will be anymore public hearings on the issue, as there have been several of
them. There now will be a lot of deliberation on the subject.
Cory Sorensen asked about the overall feeling from the public at the hearings that have been held.
John Millar said the hearings were poorly attended other than by people who lived on one of the
corridors. The general public was there to discuss their pieces of property. The Sugar City Council
was involved as to what might happen in their area.
Marilyn Rasmussen wondered if reading the transcriptions from the last two hearings would be
helpful. She could obtain them from the County for the Commissioners. It would bring them up-to-
date on what has occurred. She also thought that Sugar City had given a recommendation on which
road they wanted.
The Chair thought that these transcriptions would be helpful. The P&Z secretary will email the
documents to the Commissioners when they are received.
Gil Shirley asked what road alternative is the most feasible cost-wise.
John Millar said cost-wise, there was not a big difference between alternatives.
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One of the driving issues is, do they take it down an existing road, or do they do an alignment.
There are pros and cons to both choices. Most existing right- of-ways were developed statutorily.
Chairman Dyer said they look forward to more discussion of this issue.
He thanked John Millar for coming to this meeting to inform the Commissioners.
New Business:
1. Preliminary Plat - Broulim’s Plaza
Jeff Freiberg, of Keller Associates, 356 West Sunnyside, Idaho Falls. He presented the proposal.
The preliminary plat for Broulim’s Plaza, located on West Main, was shown on the overhead screen.
The plan is to remodel and add on to their store. That would include doing some demolition of the
existing strip mall to the west, and also adding that area on to their grocery store. They will demolish
the house near the rear parking lot to allow for a new truck dock and access.
Scott Ferguson asked about the east wall and if it was still to be moved outward, as was stated at
the time the property was rezoned.
Mr. Freiberg said the east wall will move out another twelve feet.
Chairman Dyer said the proposal before them tonight is for a subdivision – dividing up the land so
it can be appropriately used according to its zone. A building permit application will eventually
occur, in which building lines, walls, landscaping, etc. will be addressed and reviewed.
This evening’s request for a preliminary plat is a land use proposal, although to understand it
properly, some questions on development are appropriate.
Nephi Allen asked for clarification of what Mountain States Easement is on the subject plat.
Mr. Freiberg explained that this existing easement has to do with phone lines.
All existing easements will stay on-site.
Chairman Dyer asked for clarification on the lot divisions.
Jeff Freiberg pointed out the existing lots and the proposed lots on the map on the overhead screen.
The final plat will be cleaned up and will show the lots more clearly. There will be three lots on the
plat.
Chairman Dyer asked if the developer has looked at utility services, which is normally done in the
preliminary plat stage.
Jeff Freiberg said there will be no need for new sewer and water. What is currently there can handle
the expanding development. They will need to look at storm drainage regarding the depressed truck
access – pumps may be needed.
Chairman Dyer asked Val Christensen to clarify for the Commission the concept of dividing the
current lots into different lots at the subject property.
Val Christensen pointed out the existing parcels at the Broulim’s location on the projected map. He
then outlined the newly planned lots. The applicant is consolidating bits and pieces into 3 lots versus
5 lots.
Chairman Dyer said the proposed uses remain the same. This request is consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan’s underlying zoning.
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Val Christensen clarified that a few months ago, the entire block where Broulim’s is located was
rezoned from Community Business Center to Central Business District.
Marilyn Rasmussen asked if this was still in Urban Renewal.
It is, but Urban Renewal is not involved in the project.
Chairman Dyer asked the audience if they had any questions about this proposal.
There were no questions from the audience.
Chairman Dyer asked if staff had any input or recommendations for the Commission.
Val Christensen said all concerns will be addressed when the site plan is provided at the time the
applicant requests a building permit.
The Chair asked if staff was supportive of this proposal.
Mr. Christensen said staff is supportive of this proposal.
Chairman Dyer stated that the question before the Commission is, shall the subject property be
allowed to be re-divided up as presented; in other words, should this preliminary plat be
recommended for approval, or not, to City Council? If the preliminary plat is approved, the final plat
will then come before the P&Z Commission and City Council.
The Chair asked if the Commissioners had any further questions or concerns for discussion about
this proposal.
None were expressed.
Scott Ferguson motioned to recommend approval to City Council of the Preliminary Plat for
Broulim’s Plaza located on West Main. Gil Shirley seconded the motion.
Chairman Dyer asked if the Commissioners had any further discussion on this proposal.
There was no further discussion.
None opposed. Motion carried.
Compliance: None
Additional Non controversial Items Added to the Agenda:
2. Chairman Dyer reported on City Council meeting last night, February 2nd.
The City Council has been in the process of establishing their priorities for the coming year.
The P&Z Commission had established 3 top planning priorities at their January 20th meeting.
The P&Z Commission was invited by the Mayor to attend this City Council meeting to discuss these
planning priorities. Chairman Dyer made the presentation. It was a good discussion. City Council
had concerns about open space and about sprawl. Entrance corridors were also high on their
priority list. A citizens Safety Committee was formed and has been working on some safety issues.
Chairman Dyer said at noon today, there had been a luncheon at the City to meet and greet newly
elected County officials and administrators. They are all working together for the greater good of the
community.
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Cory Sorensen commented that he had seen the small pamphlet the City uses to promote Rexburg
to developers/companies. .He feels the City needs something better. How can the Commission help
to promote our City better? This concern could be looked at more closely in the future.
3. Design Review Committee Meeting for Broulim’s - scheduled for Wednesday, February 9th.
Val Christensen said that Broulim’s representatives will bring in preliminary drawings regarding their
building’s east wall, as per the Commission’s concern expressed at the earlier rezone hearing about
this wall.
This meeting will be reported on at the next P&Z meeting of February 17th.
The corridor issue/alternate route for 2nd East was brought up again.
The Commissioners made the decision to discuss this issue after having the chance to read over the
County hearing meeting notes that Marilyn Rasmussen will obtain for them, rather than discussing
the issue tonight.
Marilyn Rasmussen thought the transcripts, which included public testimony, would be helpful.
Cory Sorensen thought the Commission might accomplish more if they read the documents before
their discussion.
Discussion of this issue will be scheduled for the next P&Z meeting agenda, February 17th.
Scott Ferguson asked the process of how the road issue will move forward.
Chairman Dyer explained that the elected officials (County Commissioners, City Council of Sugar
City and of Rexburg) are charged with making a decision. They are working hard to try to arrive at a
consensus of what is going to be done, or what is to be done first and then later. Once there is
consensus, one group will step forward, possibly the City of Rexburg, because the need for the link
is in Rexburg. They will step forward to pursue the necessary funding and other needs, such as a
possible development agreement between the participating entities.
The Chair said the Rexburg P&Z Commission could send up a recommendation on the issue. They
could give solid consensus and input. The P&Z Commission is an advisory group, but they do carry
a lot of weight.
Gil Shirley thought the Commission should have more discussion on Pioneer Road as soon as
possible regarding improvements, safety, etc.
Cory Sorensen said the Safety Committee would be meeting to discuss Pioneer Road, and other
roads.
Val Christensen will find out when this meeting is scheduled.
An audience member asked about the new road that is being planned– what is its purpose, to relieve
traffic or to join Sugar City and Rexburg?
Chairman Dyer said the purpose of the road is twofold. First, it would be to relieve traffic on 2nd
East. Secondly, it is to facilitate growth. There are some designated growth areas. The area east of 2nd
East and north of the river is one of those areas. It is zoned for some major residential development.
A church has been built there. There is one subdivision; other subdivisions are in the wings,
depending on the economy. Not only will it help the 2nd East traffic situation, but it would also
encourage and facilitate growth where the City wants it, when they want it, and how they want it,
which is what the P&Z Commission is all about.
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The audience member said she has notice many potholes, some huge, throughout Rexburg as the
snow melts. She wondered if anything was being done to fix them.
Chairman Dyer said Street Department trucks were out today. They are beginning to clean those
potholes out and fill them in. Getting repairs done is dependent on the weather.
Val Christensen said the extreme weather plays havoc on the City’s roads. They will be repaired.
If it is felt that the potholes are large enough to cause car alignment problems, the location of the
potholes should be called in to the City.
Chairman Dyer thanked the audience for attending and for their interest in this community and the
American process.
Report on Projects: None
Tabled Requests: None
Building Permit Application Report: None
Heads Up:
February 17th P&Z meeting - CUP – 208 East 3rd South and 345 South 2nd East
Val Christensen explained that this CUP is to allow less than a 10-plex (they want to build an 8-
plex), and it also is to allow PEZ reduced parking. The area was viewed on the overhead map.
Two items for discussion, the 2nd East Alternative and Pioneer Road, will be scheduled for the
February 17, 2011 P&Z meeting.
Chairman Dyer adjourned the meeting at 8:22 pm.